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 pnkfld17
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 p. azurecens in England 
#635904 - 05/18/02 10:43 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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When can p. azurescens (blue runners, blue angels, indigo) be found in the West Midlands? What type of environment do they grow in also? Last season (between September and the first frost?) I picked some nice libs. I also checked by fences in long grass and also under rhodadendras in nearby gardens for azurescnes but had no luck.
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 mjshroomer
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 Re: p. azurecens in England [Re: pnkfld17]
#635945 - 05/19/02 12:11 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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First off Psilcoybe azurescens do not occur in England naturally. They are introduced into some peoples gardens but are not know to ever spread beyond where someone has transplanted mycellium from Oregon or Washington.
Even Gartz in Germany has been planting them for years in private areas and they disappear after two years and do not spread elsewhere from where they have been transplanted to.
Ont he othr hand, Psilocybe cyanesens is very common inthe British Isles and has been collect at Kew Gardens in Surrey and at the Royal Botanic Gardens in Edinburgh, Scotland.
They grow in woodchips in man made environments.
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Re: p. azurecens in England [Re: pnkfld17]
#636410 - 05/19/02 10:53 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am trying to establish Psilocybe cyanescens in my garden in Toronto. It is basically identical to azurescens in every regard except it has a wavy edge to the cap, hence the nickname "wavy cap" I felt that since they describe azurescens as "introduced" to Virginia, Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin which are just on the south side of the great lakes from me and have the same climate, I should be able to grow it here. I chose the cyanescens because in Canada we have a wonderful spore vender www.sporelab.com . He has a whole section on cyanescens that is very informative.
I think the reason you missed the mushrooms last year was that they don't start to fruit until well into the frosts. They even push up their fruits through the snow. These are cool growers and if the climate is too hot they will not grow. They only grow in a narrow band across the nothern Uniteds States and southern Canada. They die at a much lower temperature from overheating. They grow in the cool mountain forests and live on fir, maple, alder and other hardwoods on fallen logs and are quite rare. They actually do much better in the city because they just love the wood chips used for mulch. I started mine six weeks ago in Sugar Maple Sawdust and wheat bran. They are very slow and fragile but once they got going they speeded up and now look very strong and healthy.
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pnkfld17
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 Re: p. azurecens in England [Re: Orchidman]
#636503 - 05/19/02 12:36 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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nice, nice. I am thinking about cultivating some liberty caps and tampensis (for the scletoria, philosophers stones). Ever tried that or know how well it works? Most people recomend cubensis?
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Re: p. azurecens in England [Re: pnkfld17]
#636576 - 05/19/02 01:57 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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I know nothing about sclerotia, but I do know that cyanescens is said to be 7 times more potent than cubensis. This is a bit contovertial but everyone admits they are the most potent mushrooms. Rather than trying to get extra strength from the sclerotia, get it from the mushrooms. Pan tropicalis is also extremely potent and probably easier to grow than cyanescens.
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cowflop
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Re: p. azurecens in England [Re: Orchidman]
#636639 - 05/19/02 02:54 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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and pan cyans are reportedly stronger than the tropicalis.
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Re: p. azurecens in England [Re: Orchidman]
#637036 - 05/19/02 10:26 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sporelabs prints are wild - youll need to transfer those spores onto a peroxidated agar palte to clean it up as soon as they germinate - good luck!!
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