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Re: dosing while pregnant [Re: dalorean]
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monitors, can we get this post deleted? this one got way to out of hand and isn't an enjoyable thread to read.

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Re: dosing while pregnant [Re: dalorean]
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Ok.....first of all, some questions are stupid to make......
like for example...."Is it dangerous to jump off this high building?" or "Will i die if i jump in the middle of the road while a big truck passes?"
In this case the answer to the question of the original post made, is obvious as the ones to the examples i give.
The reason to make such a question could simply be a scientific interest, or even, a unexplored feeling driven by the simple will to get high.
There is nothing wrong with that, since the man, simply speaks his thoughts out to his community ,seeking some feedback.(leaving out what he will finally do which is his right to choose) (yes it is, like it or not)
What actually happens in these threads tho, which is the most important , is a great foolish energy loss, from both sides, since your egoism is so greatly injured, that you cant stop yourself from harming each other more and more.
You both feel like shit.And we all can tell that.
What if a famous doctor's opinion is that Psilocybin wouldnt hurt a pregnant woman or her baby at all?
Would that be enough for you to let your wife try it?
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...lol
Well, even with the simple thought that she might do sudden mooves that makes us put it out of the question. Dont you think so? But even so, mothers do funky shit everyday....and babys are still born , some of them with funky problems. because of their mothers foolish attitude...i agree, but if their mother has a funky attitude, that means that she is gonna raise them in a funny way too, so the problems might not even have started yet for the poor kid/s. lol
There are no perfect parents . People still grow up tho.....so many of them indeed.....lol .....the fact that people have the freedom to do stupid things during pregancy and during the kids childhood and generaly all the time, does mean that it is kind of natural. All people can do , is done all the time.
I think that a healthy person, wouldnt do something that could harm his kid. But as always there are people that keep trying to become smarter and people that dont.(not very healthy indeed)
People that are smart(healthy) enough to know what may harm their kids need less help than others, but we all can use some help.
People that dont bother to become smarter and dont give a fuck about knowledge generally are sometimes people that can not be given any help.
I hope this helps. These where my thoughts. Nothing else...


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The Source Of The Force
Is The Power Of The Mind

"if you don't like what you're doing, you can always pick up your needle and move to another groove." - timothy leary"
Anno: "-I can do anything with those clouds!"
Annos Tek



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Re: dosing while pregnant [Re: dalorean]
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In reply to:

TELL me how i'm stupid


Ok, here goes a single example.
In reply to:

i also am a cannabis cultivator, and before put into flowering period, the plant needs to be mature in order to bud properly. which means the plant needs to be either 12'' tall or taller, or a month-month1/2 old. does this rule follow w/ mycelia also? does mycelia have to be at a mature "age" before it can fruit properly? personally i believe it does, other wise the cake thats been in my flower chamber for the past week and a half should''ve been triggered to fruit. does anyone else believe in this theory?



1 child plus one on the way and a cultivator of canabis and shrooms? Good luck to them when you get busted. That's good quality parenting skills.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: dosing while pregnant [Re: Sterile]
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In reply to:

You both feel like shit.


Don't give up your day job.

I'm merely find amusement in pointing out the stupidity of people.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: dosing while pregnant [Re: Sterile]
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I'll leave this thread with Sterile's wise words.
Everything I could add would be worthless. I don't want to go on fighting. I've said what I had to say.
Though, I would just ask people not to send private correspondance. I wouldn't do it and I wouldn't appreciate if someone posted mine.
Thanx everybody for this great argument !
And good luck with your children dalorean ! Be a good father !


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Edited by tomldp (05/19/02 12:09 PM)

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Re: dosing while pregnant [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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I am not so shure if one,can really tell what is more important in this situation... The fight for freedom to use and grow psychedelics to become wiser or the narcotic stupidity of a legal/safe home?
Dont you think his kids would be proud of their father, when they become wise and find out that he was send to jail because he was cultivating the fruits of wisdom?
Well prolly not.:) They possibly would have psychological problems from growing up without a father....but then again, i didn't have a father...and i feel ok.
After all he didnt say he grows weed NOW.
But anyhow, if i discovered today that my father wasnt next to me because he was caught growing weed, i would be proud of him. That would be better than other reasons....
SHROOMERITES....THE TIME HAS COME......LOVEDEMSHROOMS......AND LOVE EACH OTHER TOO!!! LOL


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The Source Of The Force
Is The Power Of The Mind

"if you don't like what you're doing, you can always pick up your needle and move to another groove." - timothy leary"
Anno: "-I can do anything with those clouds!"
Annos Tek



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Re: dosing while pregnant [Re: dalorean]
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Its real simple actually, instead of putting the fact that she was pregnant and thinking of doing it. Leave out details you KNOW you WILL get flamed for.

Instead you should have asked something like, "What are the health risks associated with taking shrooms while pregnant? Are there any medical generals with study details?"

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Re: dosing while pregnant *DELETED* [Re: dalorean]
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Post deleted by windex

grrr, well i thought it was just a simple double post, but the second included my reasons for not needing to lock this thread.... but oh well... the important info is still on the other

Edited by windex (05/19/02 01:23 PM)

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Re: dosing while pregnant [Re: dalorean]
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And dalorean, i think you must try trusting yourself in some matters. If you give up trusting you, how in the hell do you expect someone else to trust you?(i do the same mistake all the time, yes)
You know what is best for your family.(that includes you)
This is a very knowledgable thread to read


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The Source Of The Force
Is The Power Of The Mind

"if you don't like what you're doing, you can always pick up your needle and move to another groove." - timothy leary"
Anno: "-I can do anything with those clouds!"
Annos Tek



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Re: dosing while pregnant [Re: windex]
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I agree with windex. I think the whole thread is a misunderstanding.
The young shroomerite did a syntax error. LOL


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The Source Of The Force
Is The Power Of The Mind

"if you don't like what you're doing, you can always pick up your needle and move to another groove." - timothy leary"
Anno: "-I can do anything with those clouds!"
Annos Tek



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Re: dosing while pregnant [Re: dalorean]
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With the original question asked you really gave the sense(whether you meant to or not) that whatever answers you got you would accept or take. I read the first post and was a bit relieved someone quickley responded with the right answer.
Even your follow up post gave a sense that the replies here directly affected you and your wifes actions. I'd hope no Internet BB could hold such power.


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"Little racoons and old possums 'n' stuff all live up in here. They've got to have a little place to sit." Bob Ross.

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Re: dosing while pregnant [Re: sir tripsalot]
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hello everyone. no i have no cannabis going, and i don't know if the shrooms will even pull through. these are just hobby's like music, sports whatever, that keep me occupied. i know that i aint stupid w/ what i do and i only wish that all of you could understand that too. but oh well. just as long as i know at least right? and no one fully knows everything. one may continue to learn and grow. and i did learn something from this thread. which is good. i learned that i am STUPID for asking such a question in the wrong way. i deserve what i got, and i can accept that. and now i can relieve myself, and i hope all you can, for the point of this thread has been stressed enough.

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Re: dosing while pregnant [Re: dalorean]
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thanks

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Re: dosing while pregnant [Re: ]
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I've known girls who have had shitloads of drugs and the babies came out fine. Tons of MDMA, cocaine, alcohol, cigs, pot, etc.

By no means am I saying this is acceptable behavior. Quite the opposite. The girls who did all these detestable things while pregnant swore up and down that they were not, and as soon as i found out the contrary, they were no longer my friends.

It all seems to be a roll of the dice, but why take the chance?


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Re: dosing while pregnant [Re: uno]
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MDMA while pregnant......well ...that shure is some fucked up thing to do!


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The Source Of The Force
Is The Power Of The Mind

"if you don't like what you're doing, you can always pick up your needle and move to another groove." - timothy leary"
Anno: "-I can do anything with those clouds!"
Annos Tek



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Re: dosing while pregnant [Re: dalorean]
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I dont think that would be a good idea. My old neiboors were abunch of drunks, his wife drank while her baby baked in the oven, and the kid ended up having his eyes farther from one another than normal. Unless you want to risk wanting to disown your wife for having a son whos fucked for life.


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Re: dosing while pregnant [Re: MushroomBoy123]
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people, it's not gonna happen. she aint gonna dose. i don't want her to, she doesn't want her to, people who do take drugs while pregnant are stupid. it just isn't gonna happen.

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Re: dosing while pregnant [Re: dalorean]
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this whole thread has become ridiculous...


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Re: dosing while pregnant [Re: zepphead]
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>this whole thread has become ridiculous...

Is there anymore totally fucking obvious statements you'd like to add??

Thanx for your input



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"We are the one's we have been waiting for" - Hopi saying

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Re: dosing while pregnant [Re: dalorean]
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Not much info on the web Dalorean, there's these:

http://www.fetal-exposure.org/HALLUCINOGEN.html
http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/pregnancy/pregnancy_journal1.shtml

I know you're not gonna let you're woman take them, this has been made quite clear by yourself in this thread. This IS an interesting subject, all the same. I'm sure there are many many people who have been subject to hallucinogens whilst in the womb. A friend of mine, his woman made him give up all drugs 6 months prior to them trying to conceive, she reckoned it would make the sperm lazy!

Good luck



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"We are the one's we have been waiting for" - Hopi saying

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