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Blutjager
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: mrwack0]
#6359803 - 12/11/06 11:55 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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_OttO_ said: Or you can simply use a 10L bucket to spawn to and fruit from that -



THAT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL!
Holy pinset
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_OttO_
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: Blutjager]
#6359860 - 12/12/06 12:14 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Haha - was defintitely my best pinset yet and hard to dig in there and harvest ( I had to make a hole then come at it from the sides!) -

Its a bloody fantastic and cheap way to grow enough to feed a small army.... Each buckets costs 85 cents! And, the buckets have a handle so its easy to move them around.
Wrap a bit of black tape around the bottom to prevent side pinning....
Mix the spawn in the bucket, then level it out. Chuck a bit of plastic wrap over the top and punch some holes in it with a pen.
Once colonised, add a casing layer and replace the plastic film.
Keep in a room where the air moves or point a fan in the direction of the buckets - easy as that!
Four buckets gave me over 5 ounces -

Was thinking about writing a tek for it but its so simple I cant be bothered, it really is as easy as I described above.
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Blutjager
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: _OttO_]
#6359912 - 12/12/06 12:37 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Where are those buckets 85 cents ?? also,It sounds like you leave the plastic on after colonization,If this the case or am I misunderstanding something ??
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_OttO_
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: _OttO_]
#6359998 - 12/12/06 01:21 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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10L plastic mop bucket 85 cents at most hardware stores, namely bunnings. I am down under remember, so probably doesnt help you...
The plastic wrap goes over the top of the BUCKET, not touching the actual substrate
e.g. Instead of a lid on a Fruiting chamber, you can put plastic film over the top (we call it glad wrap here - I think you strange people call it 'saran wrap'?).
Thats all that was done for these, just platic wrap over the top of the bucket. To help it stick I simply dip my finger in water and run it around the rim of the bucket - the plastic sticks much better when the rim is wet.
Poke some holes in the plastic with a pen (approx. 15 holes) for FAE and Bobs your uncle.
Each bucket on average yields between 40-50 grams on the first flush, and up to around 80-90 by the end of the fourth flush (total from one bucket).
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Blutjager
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: _OttO_]
#6360017 - 12/12/06 01:35 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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So no taking the plastic wrap off,no fanning or misting ??
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_OttO_
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: Blutjager]
#6360079 - 12/12/06 02:08 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Occasional misting, maybe once every 3 days or less, only if the sides of the bucket didnt have condensation - but no, this time I tried NOT to mess with it too much - and had the best result yet.
The FAE came from the holes in the plastic, and since its summer here and quite hot there was a fan on in the same room as them (they were simpy left in the lounge room) and the fan blew in their direction when it oscillated towards them.
The holes in the plastic seem to allow enough FAE anyway, but once a day fanning would be preferred.
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Blutjager
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: _OttO_]
#6360390 - 12/12/06 06:11 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alright,thanks for clearing that up,this looks interesting and I may think about trying it.Cool Otto,very cool
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elemental762
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: _OttO_]
#6360405 - 12/12/06 06:30 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Think I might give this a shot in a few months, but i'll use a 2 gal bucket. Great job Otto!
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xunedeinx
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Hey otto, can you make a quick tek for this?
I seriously want to try this.
Did you colonise the spawn before putting it in the bucket? What did you use as a substrate? Did you sterilize it at all?
If i go to the depot, but a bag of wbs, hydrate it, put it in the bucket, and mix in a crumbled up fully colonized brf jar into it, would i get the same effect?
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: _OttO_]
#6360442 - 12/12/06 07:16 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is really fun reading! I just found the thread and I've got tree buckets almost identical to yours!(except the amazing pinset, mine are a couple of days from pinning) I really hope mine will have pinning even a bit like yours
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: xunedeinx]
#6360456 - 12/12/06 07:28 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just like any other casing, you don't need a special tek.
Of course you colonize the spawn before you use it in the bucket & the bird seed is the spawn.
Substrate is likely to be pasteurized H/poo.
I have a similar bucket thing here. More of a big cake than a casing. Substrate was pasteurized & spawned with colonized bird seed. All done in in a 10 litre bucket. After it was colonized It was popped out onto the lid of the bucket & put in a fruiting chamber. I have another one that I left in the bucket as a casing instead of a big cake like this one. The strain is unknown.


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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: xunedeinx]
#6360554 - 12/12/06 08:30 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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xunedeinx said: Hey otto, can you make a quick tek for this?
Its pretty much done already - its just a casing in a bucket, acting like its own fruiting chamber. The pictures should say it all.
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xunedeinx said: Did you colonise the spawn before putting it in the bucket?
Of course - colonised WBS pint jars (from a clone).
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xunedeinx said: What did you use as a substrate?
Straw, h/poo and coir soaked overnight in a weak solution of seaweed extract, prepared in the exact same way as in This thread
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xunedeinx said: Did you sterilize it at all?
Pasturised the bulk substrate, cleaned the bucket well before use of course - normal aseptic conditions.
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xunedeinx said: If i go to the depot, but a bag of wbs, hydrate it, put it in the bucket, and mix in a crumbled up fully colonized brf jar into it, would i get the same effect?
No you will get a contaminated mess. But if you spawn your brf jar to a bucket of pasturised hpoo susbtrate or susbtrate of choice, it will work teh same as what I did - you're just using a different method to grow the spawn.
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xunedeinx
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: _OttO_]
#6360582 - 12/12/06 08:42 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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So, correct me if im worng, going to go threw my process...
I go to wallmart, get some wbs. Hydrate in water for a few hours, mix in some verm and some coir. Pasturise using the microwave method (put in container, put in microwave for 5 min. Let cool. Do it again for another five min, let cool again, and go on tot he next batch)
Then, i crumble 6 of the 12 colonized BRF jars in a new ziploc bag, and put into a sterile bowl/container. Add in the pasturized substrate, mix up evenly, and put into seperate clean tupperware containers(dont have access to anymore jars) Put in a warm dark place, and wait for full colonization jus as if it were a jar.
Then, after there colonized, put into the 1 gal bucket so its about 1/3 of the way full, put a layer of 50/50 coir verm on top, put in dark place until i can see mycellium comming up threw the 50/50.
Then, 12/12 light a day, FAE (couple quarter sized holes in the side with polyfill in them) and keep em around 65-75degrees for pinning and fruiting.
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: xunedeinx]
#6361359 - 12/12/06 12:47 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'd say CONTAM! Don't pasteurize grain: Pasteurize bulk substrates; poo or straw....
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: _OttO_]
#6361499 - 12/12/06 01:18 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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nice grow otto. If you want to get rid of that side pinning you could line the sides with aluminum foil before you put your substrate in teh bucket. The aluminum clings to the substrates and shrinks with the substrate and minimizes side pinning. You can research it more if u have any questions but it works really well.
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: xunedeinx]
#6362795 - 12/12/06 06:42 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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xunedeinx said: So, correct me if im worng, going to go threw my process...
I go to wallmart, get some wbs. Hydrate in water for a few hours, mix in some verm and some coir. Pasturise using the microwave method (put in container, put in microwave for 5 min. Let cool. Do it again for another five min, let cool again, and go on tot he next batch)
No, incorrect completely - did you even bother to read through that link I posted to my grow log?
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xunedeinx said: Then, i crumble 6 of the 12 colonized BRF jars in a new ziploc bag, and put into a sterile bowl/container. Add in the pasturized substrate, mix up evenly, and put into seperate clean tupperware containers(dont have access to anymore jars) Put in a warm dark place, and wait for full colonization jus as if it were a jar.
No, as I said before, you mix everything in the bucket, level it out and let it colonise in that - like a big casing...
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xunedeinx said: Then, after there colonized, put into the 1 gal bucket so its about 1/3 of the way full, put a layer of 50/50 coir verm on top, put in dark place until i can see mycellium comming up threw the 50/50.
Once its colonised IN THE BUCKET then yes, add a casing layer of choice.
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xunedeinx said: Then, 12/12 light a day, FAE (couple quarter sized holes in the side with polyfill in them) and keep em around 65-75degrees for pinning and fruiting.
You got that last bit perfect - I didnt however use polyfill holes, just 'saran wrap' over the top with holes punched in it, but you could make a few penny sized holes yes - that may even be a bit better.
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hfactor said: nice grow otto. If you want to get rid of that side pinning you could line the sides with aluminum foil before you put your substrate in teh bucket. The aluminum clings to the substrates and shrinks with the substrate and minimizes side pinning. You can research it more if u have any questions but it works really well.
In the first experiment where I just had some leftover casing mix and spawn and I made the first bucket, the side pinning was a problem on the first flush - so then I used black plastic sticky tape to cover the bottom of the bucket and the second flsuh was fine.
The buckets with the good pinset had the tape in place from the start and had no side pinning.
I dont really like using foil - its fiddly and makes it harder to dunk (if dunking is something you want to do).
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DeMush411
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: _OttO_]
#6363591 - 12/12/06 08:08 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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That does look beautiful!!!
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: DeMush411]
#27009998 - 10/29/20 09:58 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was looking for different ways to grow them also... And I came across this. I'm a newbie and I think I will start with this method. ...has anyone tried this method? Looks super easy and fast.
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: NuBeeLuna] 1
#27010016 - 10/29/20 10:14 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nice job reviving a 14 year old thread š¤£
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