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DeMush411
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5 gallon bucket???
#6356642 - 12/11/06 02:37 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Has anyone tried to use the PF-Tek method on a massive scale like in a 5 gallon bucket??? would this amount of substrate yield monster shrooms??? if anyone has tried this send me some pics plz!!!
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Grogan
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: DeMush411]
#6356665 - 12/11/06 02:55 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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It would probally contam like hell.. but hey if you can boil a 5 gallon bucket do it. lol
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etam
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: DeMush411]
#6356666 - 12/11/06 02:55 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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You wouldn't be able to get a 5 gallon bucket of PF substrate to colonize...
You really shouldn't try to colonize anything PF style larger than a pint jar.
People crumble PF cakes and spawn them to bulk substrate like coir and hpoo which could fill a bucket if you really wanted it to.
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DeMush411
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: etam]
#6356689 - 12/11/06 03:07 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wtf okay disregard the contamination and why wouldnt it colonize??? mycelium just keeps growing, thats why its the largest living organisim!!!
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: DeMush411]
#6356702 - 12/11/06 03:22 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Years back, I did a couple 5 gallon plastic bucket grows.
But, not full. About 5/8ths full.
It's simple. Sanitize one. Drill a couple 3/4 inch holes in the lid for gas exchange. Cover holes with sterile gauze bandage. Drill a 1 or 2 inch hole in lid & tape over with clear plastic. (peek hole) Add 8 quarts pasteurized h/poo. Add 3 or 4 quarts of colonized wbs spawn. Mix well. Snap on lid. Set in a room temp dark closet to incubate. Once colonized, add a 50/50+ casing cover. Hang a light over it 12/12 off/on. Once pins pop. Fan & mist.
I much prefer 12 quart trays. But, a bucket works in a crunch.
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etam
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: agar]
#6356719 - 12/11/06 03:36 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Exactly. You need to spawn h/poo (or LOTS of crumbled pf cakes) to do something like that.
Agar, you get too much praise, but you're the man.
Peace.
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DeMush411
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: etam]
#6356762 - 12/11/06 04:28 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, no, no that is not what I meant, I want to colonize a bucket about 7/8ths full and then plop the massive blob out of the bucket and throw it in to a fruiting chamber!!!
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Dihnekis
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: DeMush411]
#6356763 - 12/11/06 04:29 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah we know, how are you going to sterilize a bigass bucket. The answer is that you aren't, and even if you did it would never colonize.
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DeMush411
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: Dihnekis]
#6356773 - 12/11/06 04:41 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Listen guys, take a brand spankin' new 5 gallon bucket put 100% isopropyl alcohol in a spray bottle spray the whole bucket down till it drips and then throw it in a bag that has also been sprayed down and zip tie it shut then poke a hole let the damn thing evaporate, when this is done take 8 4lbs. rye spawn bags put down 3 then take an fully colonized bag and throw it down then cover it with the other 4 bags and for good measure throw down 40cc's of what ever strain you like, then take a sheet of pre-sterilized tyvek and put it over the top of the bucket then cap the thing and have pre-drilled holes in the cap with cottons swabs for gas exchange!!!
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DeMush411
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: DeMush411]
#6356775 - 12/11/06 04:45 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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P.S. I forgot to say dip a razor blade in isopropyl and use it to cut open the spawn bags when pouring them into the bucket!!!
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donkers5257
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: Dihnekis]
#6356782 - 12/11/06 04:51 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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The point is that the mycelium would never be able to grow fast enough to colonize the cake before contaminants set in. A 5-gallon cake? Are you kidding? Even if you had a major hi-tech sterile facility, I'm talking a complete sealed clean room with particulate filtration, and remote-controlled robotics doing the work... A huge cake is horribly inefficient. The larger your cake, the less your ration of surface area/volume. Even if you had all the sterile facilities and were able to get the mycelium to take over the whole cake, it would take FOREVER.
The only thing I could ever see this used for is if you were able to gaurantee a completely sterile 5-gallon bucket of substrate, and you somehow inoculated it on a MASSIVE level, so that spores were EVERYWHERE in the cake, let it colonize, and then (if by some miracle mycelium permeated the entire cake without massive infection) break the colonized cake up into a bunch of smaller bits and then started a massive fruiting operation. Like a cattle-feed bin of bulk substrate. Or maybe an entire greenhouse.
But fruiting a 5-gallon cake? Insanity.
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: DeMush411]
#6356785 - 12/11/06 04:52 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Do all that under a flow hood and maybe :P I don't see the point though. Except the pure novelty of having a HUGE pf cake. Which i will admit would make a really cool pic of the month.
Also, if you used rye, it wouldn't be PFtek :P My guess would also be contams. But I've seen weirder shit work.
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: Primate]
#6356797 - 12/11/06 05:04 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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i had a big glass container for cooking that was about 1-2 gallons and fit in my pc that i have done that with and it worked fine and i fruited it like a big cake. colonized a little slower
also i had a crap load of extra colonixed jars when i switched to grain and i filled the bottom (6 inches)of a 5 gallon bucket with them and covered everything in a casing and had ok results
but there are so many more better ways to get better yields the only reason i used the 5 gallon bucket was my marthas were packed and had no other place
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myCo_psyCo
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: Primate]
#6356798 - 12/11/06 05:07 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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i sopose that you could grow like A LOT of pf cakes, crumple em ALL up into a 5gal, cover it up, incubate, dump it into a clear plastic bag and fruit like that lol
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Blutjager
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: myCo_psyCo]
#6356939 - 12/11/06 07:22 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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A bucket...Psh,Why not a garbage can sized cake,mabye you could get it to collinize if you drilled a ton of holes in it and inoculated it with a million syringes
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hfactor
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: Blutjager]
#6357714 - 12/11/06 01:18 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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the heat generated by the mycellium would be insane. the middle of the 5 gallon cake would just kill itself with the heat its producing. atleast from what I have read this is what would happen... 10 inch substrates dont make 40 inch shrooms, there is a limit to how much heat the mycellium can handle
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autographguys
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: hfactor]
#6359053 - 12/11/06 07:42 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have used them as mono tubs. They work quite well for wbs and hpoo. You could make a fruiting chamer for PF. I think trying to make a huge 5 gallon bucket cake is a big waste of time.
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odium33
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u could spawn some pf cakes to a whole bunch of straw in a bucket, then dump it into a laudary basket, kind of like a big cake
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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: odium33]
#6359702 - 12/11/06 11:15 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Or you can simply use a 10L bucket to spawn to and fruit from that -



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Re: 5 gallon bucket??? [Re: _OttO_]
#6359778 - 12/11/06 11:42 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
_OttO_ said: Or you can simply use a 10L bucket to spawn to and fruit from that -



THAT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL!
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