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OfflineHitman203
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Hurricane Carter: Innocent or gulity????
    #6353061 - 12/10/06 01:23 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Carter


I grew up in Paterson and want to believe he is innocent. I watched the movie today and it made him look innocent.

But I mean IDK if he is.

"Despite enormous public and political pressure to drop the case, Prosecutor Burrell Ives Humphreys made the difficult decision to re-prosecute the by-now ten-year-old murder indictments. However, he made an offer to both Carter and Artis - a "no-risk" polygraph test. If either man would take and "pass" a polygraph test conducted by a nationally-recognized expert, Humphreys would drop the prosecution as to that man. Were he to "fail" the test, there would be no adverse consequences.

However, both men rejected the offer."

why would he not take a polygraph if it cant hurt him? makes no sense.

Also he did mug an old lady and plead gulity to it (before he supposedly changed) so IDK.

What do you guys think? I mean I agree that his trial was unfair, but he did he commit these murders or not?


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InvisibleBurke Dennings
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Re: Hurricane Carter: Innocent or gulity???? [Re: Hitman203]
    #6353062 - 12/10/06 01:23 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

IDK


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Invisibleskeeter
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Re: Hurricane Carter: Innocent or gulity???? [Re: Hitman203]
    #6353063 - 12/10/06 01:24 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Go away.


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Re: Hurricane Carter: Innocent or gulity???? [Re: Hitman203]
    #6353140 - 12/10/06 03:06 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

innocent, i dont think he ever did it.


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Re: Hurricane Carter: Innocent or gulity???? [Re: Hitman203]
    #6353206 - 12/10/06 04:13 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Pistol shots ring out in the barroom night
Enter patty valentine from the upper hall.
She sees the bartender in a pool of blood,
Cries out, my god, they killed them all!
Here comes the story of the hurricane,
The man the authorities came to blame
For somethin that he never done.
Put in a prison cell, but one time he could-a been
The champion of the world.

Three bodies lyin there does patty see
And another man named bello, movin around mysteriously.
I didnt do it, he says, and he throws up his hands
I was only robbin the register, I hope you understand.
I saw them leavin, he says, and he stops
One of us had better call up the cops.
And so patty calls the cops
And they arrive on the scene with their red lights flashin
In the hot new jersey night.

Meanwhile, far away in another part of town
Rubin carter and a couple of friends are drivin around.
Number one contender for the middleweight crown
Had no idea what kinda shit was about to go down
When a cop pulled him over to the side of the road
Just like the time before and the time before that.
In paterson thats just the way things go.
If youre black you might as well not show up on the street
less you wanna draw the heat.

Alfred bello had a partner and he had a rap for the cops.
Him and arthur dexter bradley were just out prowlin around
He said, I saw two men runnin out, they looked like middleweights
They jumped into a white car with out-of-state plates.
And miss patty valentine just nodded her head.
Cop said, wait a minute, boys, this ones not dead
So they took him to the infirmary
And though this man could hardly see
They told him that he could identify the guilty men.

Four in the mornin and they haul rubin in,
Take him to the hospital and they bring him upstairs.
The wounded man looks up through his one dyin eye
Says, whad you bring him in here for? he aint the guy!
Yes, heres the story of the hurricane,
The man the authorities came to blame
For somethin that he never done.
Put in a prison cell, but one time he could-a been
The champion of the world.

Four months later, the ghettos are in flame,
Rubins in south america, fightin for his name
While arthur dexter bradleys still in the robbery game
And the cops are puttin the screws to him, lookin for somebody to blame.
Remember that murder that happened in a bar?
Remember you said you saw the getaway car?
You think youd like to play ball with the law?
Think it might-a been that fighter that you saw runnin that night?
Dont forget that you are white.

Arthur dexter bradley said, Im really not sure.
Cops said, a poor boy like you could use a break
We got you for the motel job and were talkin to your friend bello
Now you dont wanta have to go back to jail, be a nice fellow.
Youll be doin society a favor.
That sonofabitch is brave and gettin braver.
We want to put his ass in stir
We want to pin this triple murder on him
He aint no gentleman jim.

Rubin could take a man out with just one punch
But he never did like to talk about it all that much.
Its my work, hed say, and I do it for pay
And when its over Id just as soon go on my way
Up to some paradise
Where the trout streams flow and the air is nice
And ride a horse along a trail.
But then they took him to the jailhouse
Where they try to turn a man into a mouse.

All of rubins cards were marked in advance
The trial was a pig-circus, he never had a chance.
The judge made rubins witnesses drunkards from the slums
To the white folks who watched he was a revolutionary bum
And to the black folks he was just a crazy nigger.
No one doubted that he pulled the trigger.
And though they could not produce the gun,
The d.a. said he was the one who did the deed
And the all-white jury agreed.

Rubin carter was falsely tried.
The crime was murder one, guess who testified?
Bello and bradley and they both baldly lied
And the newspapers, they all went along for the ride.
How can the life of such a man
Be in the palm of some fools hand?
To see him obviously framed
Couldnt help but make me feel ashamed to live in a land
Where justice is a game.

Now all the criminals in their coats and their ties
Are free to drink martinis and watch the sun rise
While rubin sits like buddha in a ten-foot cell
An innocent man in a living hell.
Thats the story of the hurricane,
But it wont be over till they clear his name
And give him back the time hes done.
Put in a prison cell, but one time he could-a been
The champion of the world.


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Re: Hurricane Carter: Innocent or gulity???? [Re: Rondel]
    #6353323 - 12/10/06 07:09 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

If Bob Dylan says he's innocent, then he's innocent.


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Re: Hurricane Carter: Innocent or gulity???? [Re: adrug]
    #6353325 - 12/10/06 07:12 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

agreed... it was a great movie though.


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OfflineColonelpoop
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Re: Hurricane Carter: Innocent or gulity???? [Re: Banez]
    #6354414 - 12/10/06 03:06 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

All black murderers with movies about their incarceration are innocent. I learned that on Phil tour.


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Re: Hurricane Carter: Innocent or gulity???? [Re: Colonelpoop]
    #6354525 - 12/10/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

was it not a good movie though?


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OfflineMadtowntripper
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Re: Hurricane Carter: Innocent or gulity???? [Re: Banez]
    #6355279 - 12/10/06 06:37 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

He was probably guilty.

Sorry.

I wish he was innocent too, but I think the evidence pretty much shows that he did.


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If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus


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