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Human Flight - my serious hypothesis
    #6349862 - 12/09/06 02:51 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

You've probably seen this before: Frog levitating in a controlled magnetic field

A human in a larger altered field would float just the same, and if our magnetism could be controllably altered from within ourselves we would logically be able to fly.

I believe that in order for us to be affected by Earth's magnetic field we must also have a magnetic setting to ourselves, the information and settings for which is inside us.

Here is an article that claims a portion of our minds is a magnetic field.
If we can tap into the controlling of this area then we could fly ourselves.

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Re: Human Flight - my serious hypothesis [Re: Disco Cat]
    #6349871 - 12/09/06 02:57 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

That article is really interesting. How exactly did you stumble onto this theory?


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Re: Human Flight - my serious hypothesis [Re: Disco Cat]
    #6349885 - 12/09/06 03:04 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Whatever you say, Magneto. We're watching you.


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Re: Human Flight - my serious hypothesis [Re: Disco Cat]
    #6349891 - 12/09/06 03:14 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

The frog levitates because it is in a magnetic field that is ridiculously strong and concentrated, and this acts upon the diamagnetic nature of water in the frog's body. Sure, humans could levitate, but we would have to be exposed to a similar, only much more intense, magnetic field. The fact that there is an elecromagnetic component of thought, concious or unconscious, has nothing to do with magnetic levitation. Sure, the Earth's magnetic field is quite massive, but its not nearly intense enough to levitate a human or anything else of sufficient mass for that matter.


Edited by Twister (12/09/06 03:16 AM)


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Re: Human Flight - my serious hypothesis [Re: NobodyCares]
    #6349907 - 12/09/06 03:24 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I wasn't trying to come up with it, it just came to mind a while ago and so I searched up magnetic fields and found that article claiming that our mind is one - which fit perfectly.


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Re: Human Flight - my serious hypothesis [Re: Twister]
    #6349929 - 12/09/06 03:39 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I wasn't saying the Earth's field would fly us, I only referenced it to provide evidence of a sympathetic force within ourselves.
That thought is magnetic shows that such fields are generated from within us.

I am not saying we would fly by being exposed to a strong field exterior to us, so the strength/weakness of Earth's field is irrelevent - except for deciding how much of a counter-force (or maybe there's a sympathetic-collaborating force as opposed to a negating one) we'd have to conjure up from within ourselves.


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Re: Human Flight - my serious hypothesis [Re: Disco Cat]
    #6349991 - 12/09/06 04:29 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

So basically this is all about fantasy rather than fact.
Unless the conscious magnetic field (which is only a hypothesis itself) is more intense than the fields used to levitate frogs and grasshoppers (which can only be generated using equipment that is the size of a house and requires extreme amounts of electricity) human flight in this manner will never exist. Obviously it isn't that strong or it would already be apparent. Sorry to burst your bubble.


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Re: Human Flight - my serious hypothesis [Re: Twister]
    #6349999 - 12/09/06 04:43 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

You honestly haven't burst anything.

You're having your opinion determined by the wowing impression you get from the size of a magnetic field altering machine, or it's power output. That's silly.
That's the same as thinking that in order to out-perform a computer from the 50's that took up an entire warehouse, you'd need to use something even bigger. Yet here we are with computers 1/1000th the size, performing over 999,999,999 times as well. That alone proves the senselessness of your oppositional claim.
Or, that's skin to Bill Gates saying that no one will ever need any more than a few kilobytes of RAM - it's a lack of foresight.

You're just demonstrating a lack of vision for what is seriously possible, and what will be sooner or later accomplished. Would I be right to guess that you got shut down a lot when you were younger? Coz seriously, you're dissuasions aren't relevent and only show what you're personally unwilling to accept.

Now I'd seriously like this thread to be used to discuss the idea further, and not used for silly nay-saying because an idea is too grand for you.


Edited by Disco Cat (12/09/06 04:56 AM)


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Re: Human Flight - my serious hypothesis [Re: Disco Cat]
    #6350041 - 12/09/06 05:38 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Disco Cat said:
Now I'd seriously like this thread to be used to discuss the idea further




isnt that what they have been doing so far??

ps: and the magnetism thing, even though our minds have a magnetic field, how would we intesify it enought to levitate? Either way we would need some sort of contraption, and the end result would be that magnetically, wewould be able to be lifted up by our heads...
I much prefer to sit in a car or plane...


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Re: Human Flight - my serious hypothesis [Re: eligal]
    #6350045 - 12/09/06 05:39 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

/sighhh... no, calling the idea fantasy (and therefore impossible) is the opposite of discussing it further.


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Re: Human Flight - my serious hypothesis [Re: Disco Cat]
    #6350047 - 12/09/06 05:41 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

it sounds like he disagreed with the given theory, that is part of discussion is it not? He looked at what you said, thought about it, and replied with his thoughts.

Thus: Discussed.


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Re: Human Flight - my serious hypothesis [Re: Disco Cat]
    #6350058 - 12/09/06 05:53 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Disco Cat said:
You honestly haven't burst anything.

You're having your opinion determined by the wowing impression you get from the size of a magnetic field altering machine, or it's power output. That's silly.
That's the same as thinking that in order to out-perform a computer from the 50's that took up an entire warehouse, you'd need to use something even bigger. Yet here we are with computers 1/1000th the size, performing over 999,999,999 times as well. That alone proves the senselessness of your oppositional claim.





This is not analogous to what I said. The intensity of the electromagnetic field produced by that machine requires massive input of electricity, and to create a comparable field this massive input will always be required. The first computers were gigantic because they computed using vacuum tubes which by nature are fairly large, and the reduction in size was because the components could be miniaturized because thier physical size had no bearing on the function of the machines. This is not the case with the machines used to levitate the frog. Massive components are required to create such an intense field.

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You're just demonstrating a lack of vision for what is seriously possible, and what will be sooner or later accomplished. Would I be right to guess that you got shut down a lot when you were younger? Coz seriously, you're dissuasions aren't relevent and only show what you're personally unwilling to accept.




You're demonstrating lack of logic by using a single hypothesis about the nature of consciousness to create a fantastical method for unaided human flight. Have you ever even taken a course or read a book on elecricity and magnetism? Do you understand these principles which you act like you understand?

And no I wasn't shut down alot as a child especially with regards to intellectual pursuits such as this. This is due to the fact that rather than do something like make a ridiculous hypotheses based on as little information as a single news article(you do realize this isn't even a peer reviewed journal article, right?), I have always sought out as much knowledge on a subject as possible before coming to some conclusion.

And I'm actually basing my conclusion that your hypothesis is fantasy on my knowledge of physics, and even though it is miniscule compared to that of many others I'm willing to bet that my grasp on these principles is far greater than yours(I've been through 5 semesters of physics courses, 1 of which solely regarded electricity and magnetism) . The reasons that I've stated as to why your hypothesis is fantasy are serious, and if you actually thought it could hold water you would present some more information rather than be so negative when presented with a critical opinion.


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Re: Human Flight - my serious hypothesis [Re: eligal]
    #6350061 - 12/09/06 05:57 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

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Now I'd seriously like this thread to be used to discuss the idea further




isnt that what they have been doing so far??





I think what he means by serious discussion is for others with similar opinions and little knowledge to agreee with him.


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Re: Human Flight - my serious hypothesis [Re: Twister]
    #6350066 - 12/09/06 06:04 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Human Flight - my serious hypothesis [Re: Twister]
    #6350067 - 12/09/06 06:04 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Human Flight - my serious hypothesis [Re: HSIHd]
    #6350312 - 12/09/06 10:34 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Essentially, what you are saying is that in order for your proposed theory to be realised, we need technology that is unimaginable to us today. That's fair enough, I have no problem with that. An interesting idea  :thumbup:


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Re: Human Flight - my serious hypothesis [Re: Disco Cat]
    #6350470 - 12/09/06 11:42 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Well, for now this is about as close to human flight as you can get.
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Re: Human Flight - my serious hypothesis [Re: Twister]
    #6350538 - 12/09/06 12:24 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Twister said:
Massive components are required to create such an intense field.





Wouldn't that be the same as the example you gave for computers? That we just havn't reached a technological breakthrough with magnetism to make components small enough to make flight a reality?

Merely playing devils advocate. I know nothing of magetism and physics, I'm just interested in this discussion.

Disco Cat relax dude, you act like people are attacking you when that is not the case.


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Re: Human Flight - my serious hypothesis [Re: Disco Cat]
    #6350633 - 12/09/06 01:09 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

its the water in the frog thats diamagnetic, thats why it levitates.

its a bit of a jump to say that we could control magnetism with our minds.

i mean - its a completely seperate principal. You wouldn't using diamagnetism, you'd be fighting against the Earths gravity by mind power!???

Theres a reason why birds have wings! i'm not saying its not possible that we could evolve to do that but we clearly haven't yet!


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Re: Human Flight - my serious hypothesis [Re: JustK]
    #6351056 - 12/09/06 03:51 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, you're probably right, I was pretty high strung. Sorry Twister.


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