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9/11 was a inside job, video with convincing arguments.
#6348602 - 12/08/06 05:12 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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The arguments supporting these ideas reflect thoughts ive had ever since 9/11 for the most part. Mostly it felt like intuition. http://www.officialconfusion.com/shayleronsky.html Peace
Edited by Shroompowah (12/08/06 05:13 PM)
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Re: 9/11 was a inside job, video with convincing arguments. [Re: Shroompowah]
#6348654 - 12/08/06 05:28 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Irish "undocumented construction workers" planted those explosives, which were provided to them by the FARC. The Nerdle Wombanger Cabal has uncovered much disturbing evidence about what really happened on 9/11.
"The Irish Voice reported that undocumented Irish "construction workers" had been working at the World Trade Center on the day it was attacked. "As the Irish Voice reported last week, another undocumented Irish worker using false identification who narrowly escaped with his life stated that he saw many other Irish undocumented construction workers going up to a higher floor on the morning that the blasts occurred." Not only were these "construction workers" merely undocumented, but they also assumed false pseudonyms.3 This "construction worker" façade would certainly be useful to anyone wishing to plant explosives."
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Re: 9/11 was a inside job, video with convincing arguments. [Re: MushmanTheManic]
#6349430 - 12/08/06 09:57 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Damn Irish! Bomb them, I say!
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Re: 9/11 was a inside job, video with convincing arguments. [Re: Seuss]
#6349460 - 12/08/06 10:06 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, I agree. First take out Ireland and then Aruba.
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Re: 9/11 was a inside job, video with convincing arguments. [Re: MushmanTheManic]
#6351925 - 12/09/06 05:59 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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wtf?
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Re: 9/11 was a inside job, video with convincing arguments. [Re: Shroompowah]
#6352797 - 12/09/06 11:27 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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The people who are trying to prove that 9/11 was an inside job are starting to look like the people who tried to prove the moon landing was fake. That is to say that they take a few points that bring up questions and then select sparse bits of evidence that can be interpreted many ways, interpret that evidence in the way that suits their hypothesis, and (of course) conveniently disregard the inevitable sea of evidence they come across which doesn't agree with them, without even bothering to come up with an explanation as to why the evidence to the contrary isn't worth looking at... aside from the implied explanation that they don't want to accept any evidence which might prove their poorly constructed conspiracy theory to be incorrect.
To put it simply, most of these people seem more concerned with proving their idea is right than they are with actually finding out what is right.
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Re: 9/11 was a inside job, video with convincing arguments. [Re: Konnrade]
#6356678 - 12/11/06 02:59 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Man Pentagon Strike is way better!!!!
-http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/
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Re: 9/11 was a inside job, video with convincing arguments. [Re: Shroompowah]
#6356824 - 12/11/06 05:27 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's funny, you'd think that an MI5 agent would have access to enough intelligence to know that Alex Jones is a nut job and you only discredit yourself by appearing on his show...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/270605insidejob.htm
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Re: 9/11 was a inside job, video with convincing arguments. [Re: DeMush411]
#6359740 - 12/11/06 11:32 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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You Idiot! You fell into one of the many boobytraps invented by Karl Rove and his pack of V.I.L.E. Henchmen! Of course the WTC site was destroyed with pre-planted explosives/thermate charges, military drone planes packed with thermite and an auxillary ejecta apparatus to take care of pesky Building 7 and its archives of incriminating information. But to believe that something other than an airliner hit The Pentagon? MAN you really blew it! You just helped blow the credibility of the whole Truth Movement!
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Re: 9/11 was a inside job, video with convincing arguments. [Re: Viveka]
#7534252 - 10/19/07 06:16 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Professional Demolition of World Trade Center Building 7
Larry Silverstein, the owner of the WTC complex, admitted on a September 2002 PBS documentary, 'America Rebuilds' that he and the NYFD decided to 'pull' WTC 7 on the day of the attack. The word 'pull' is industry jargon for taking a building down with explosives.
We have attempted to call Larry Silverstein's office on several occasions. Silverstein has never issued a retraction for his comments.
Photos taken moments before the collapse of WTC 7 show small office fires on just two floors.
Firefighters were told to move away from the building moments before it collapsed.
In February of 2002 Silverstein Properties won $861 million from Industrial Risk Insurers to rebuild on the site of WTC 7. Silverstein Properties' estimated investment in WTC 7 was $386 million. So: This building's collapse resulted in a profit of about $500 million!
watch a video here of the wtc building7 collapse - http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/281104unmistakablecharges.htm
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The above clip is taken from this longer video of the WTC-7 collapse, which itself is a small segment of the Naudet brothers' documentary "9/11".
Looking at the upper right-hand corner of the building we see a rapid series of small explosions travelling upward just as the building itself begins to fall. The size, placement and timing of these "puffs" is very consistent with squibs from cutting charges of the type used in professional controlled demolitions, and in fact nothing but small explosive charges could create such an appearance.
The decreasing volume of the building from the collapse itself could not create enough pressure to cause such localized high-velocity effects, and this early in the collapse would have only created a modest overpressure.
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New York Firefighters Discuss Bombs in WTC Towers
In this clip you will hear a discussion between New York Firefighters from September 11 where they describe the WTC and the fact that it looked like detonators were planted in the towers. There is a little profanity in this clip.
vid here - http://www.prisonplanet.com/032404firefightersdiscuss.html
this is the construction worker for the wtc saying it was designed to have a fully loaded plane hitting it and he believes it could with stand multiple hits - vid here http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/141104designedtotake.htm
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German firm probes final World Trade Center deals
German computer experts are working round the clock to unlock the truth behind an unexplained surge in financial transactions made just before two hijacked planes crashed into New York's World Trade Center on September 11.
Were criminals responsible for the sharp rise in credit card transactions that moved through some computer systems at the WTC shortly before the planes hit the twin towers?
Or was it coincidence that unusually large sums of money, perhaps more than $100 million, were rushed through the computers as the disaster unfolded? (more here http://www.prisonplanet.com/german_firm_probes_final_world_trade_center_deals.htm)
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Agency planned exercise on Sept. 11 built around a plane crashing into a building
Wed Aug 21, 7:45 PM ET By JOHN J. LUMPKIN, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - In what the government describes as a bizarre coincidence, one U.S. intelligence agency was planning an exercise last Sept. 11 in which an errant aircraft would crash into one of its buildings. But the cause wasn't terrorism — it was to be a simulated accident.
Officials at the Chantilly, Virginia-based National Reconnaissance Office had scheduled an exercise that morning in which a small corporate jet would crash into one of the four towers at the agency's headquarters building after experiencing a mechanical failure.
The agency is about 4 miles (6 kilometers) from the runways of Washington Dulles International Airport.
Agency chiefs came up with the scenario to test employees' ability to respond to a disaster, said spokesman Art Haubold. No actual plane was to be involved — to simulate the damage from the crash, some stairwells and exits were to be closed off, forcing employees to find other ways to evacuate the building.
"It was just an incredible coincidence that this happened to involve an aircraft crashing into our facility," Haubold said. "As soon as the real world ( news - Y! TV) events began, we canceled the exercise." more at - http://www.prisonplanet.com/agency_planned_exercise_on_sept_11_built_around_a_plane_crashing_into_a_building.htm
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Former German Defense Minister Confirms CIA Involvement in 9/11: Alex Jones Interviews Andreas Von Buelow
Von Buelow is the former German Defense Minister and Minister of Technology. Von Buelow went public to say the US government carried out 9/11. His book is one of the bestsellers across Europe. vid here - http://www.prisonplanet.com/020804vonbuelow.html
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WTC Construction Certifiers Say Towers Should Have Easily Withstood Jet Fuel Temperatures
Kevin Ryan/Underwriters Laboratories | November 12 2004
The following letter was sent today by Kevin Ryan of Underwriters Laboratories to Frank Gayle of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). Underwriters Laboratories is the company that certified the steel componets used in the constuction of the World Trade Center towers. The information in this letter is of great importance.
Dr. Gayle,
Having recently reviewed your team's report of 10/19/04, I felt the need to contact you directly.
As I'm sure you know, the company I work for certified the steel components used in the construction of the WTC buildings. In requesting information from both our CEO and Fire Protection business manager last year, I learned that they did not agree on the essential aspects of the story, except for one thing - that the samples we certified met all requirements. They suggested we all be patient and understand that UL was working with your team, and that tests would continue through this year. I'm aware of UL's attempts to help, including performing tests on models of the floor assemblies. But the results of these tests appear to indicate that the buildings should have easily withstood the thermal stress caused by pools of burning jet fuel.
There continues to be a number of "experts" making public claims about how the WTC buildings fell. One such person, Dr. Hyman Brown from the WTC construction crew, claims that the buildings collapsed due to fires at 2000F melting the steel (1). He states "What caused the building to collapse is the airplane fuel…burning at 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. The steel in that five-floor area melts." Additionally, the newspaper that quotes him says "Just-released preliminary findings from a National Institute of Standards and Technology study of the World Trade Center collapse support Brown’s theory."
We know that the steel components were certified to ASTM E119. The time temperature curves for this standard require the samples to be exposed to temperatures around 2000F for several hours. And as we all agree, the steel applied met those specifications. Additionally, I think we can all agree that even un-fireproofed steel will not melt until reaching red-hot temperatures of nearly 3000F (2). Why Dr. Brown would imply that 2000F would melt the high-grade steel used in those buildings makes no sense at all.
The results of your recently published metallurgical tests seem to clear things up (3), and support your team's August 2003 update as detailed by the Associated Press (4), in which you were ready to "rule out weak steel as a contributing factor in the collapse." The evaluation of paint deformation and spheroidization seem very straightforward, and you noted that the samples available were adequate for the investigation. Your comments suggest that the steel was probably exposed to temperatures of only about 500F (250C), which is what one might expect from a thermodynamic analysis of the situation.
However the summary of the new NIST report seems to ignore your findings, as it suggests that these low temperatures caused exposed bits of the building’s steel core to "soften and buckle." (5) Additionally this summary states that the perimeter columns softened, yet your findings make clear that "most perimeter panels (157 of 160) saw no temperature above 250C." To soften steel for the purposes of forging, normally temperatures need to be above1100C (6). However, this new summary report suggests that much lower temperatures were be able to not only soften the steel in a matter of minutes, but lead to rapid structural collapse.
This story just does not add up. If steel from those buildings did soften or melt, I’m sure we can all agree that this was certainly not due to jet fuel fires of any kind, let alone the briefly burning fires in those towers. That fact should be of great concern to all Americans. Alternatively, the contention that this steel did fail at temperatures around 250C suggests that the majority of deaths on 9/11 were due to a safety-related failure. That suggestion should be of great concern to my company.
There is no question that the events of 9/11 are the emotional driving force behind the War on Terror. And the issue of the WTC collapse is at the crux of the story of 9/11. My feeling is that your metallurgical tests are at the crux of the crux of the crux. Either you can make sense of what really happened to those buildings, and communicate this quickly, or we all face the same destruction and despair that come from global decisions based on disinformation and “chatter”.
Thanks for your efforts to determine what happened on that day. You may know that there are a number of other current and former government employees that have risked a great deal to help us to know the truth. I've copied one of these people on this message as a sign of respect and support. I believe your work could also be a nucleus of fact around which the truth, and thereby global peace and justice, can grow again. Please do what you can to quickly eliminate the confusion regarding the ability of jet fuel fires to soften or melt structural steel.
1. http://www.boulderweekly.com/archive/102104/coverstory.html 2. CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics, 61st edition, pg D-187 3. http://wtc.nist.gov/media/P3MechanicalandMetAnalysisofSteel.pdf 4. http://www.voicesofsept11.org/archive/911ic/082703.php 5. http://wtc.nist.gov/media/NCSTACWTCStatusFINAL101904WEB2.pdf (pg 11) 6. http://www.forging.org/FIERF/pdf/ffaaMacSleyne.pdf
Kevin Ryan
Site Manager Environmental Health Laboratories A Division of Underwriters Laboratories
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Another Ignored 9/11 Clue: Bomb Sniffing Dogs Removed From WTC Days Before Attack
Jon Rappoport | June 28 2004
As you’ll see from the Newsday excerpt below, tight security at the Twin Towers in NYC was lightened in the days just before the 9/11 attacks.
What makes the particular removal of bomb-sniffing dogs so important are statements from firemen that they heard bombs going off in the Towers on 9/11, as they were carrying out their rescue operation. more here - http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2004/062804ignoredclue.htm
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the buildinds also collapsed at the speed of gravity not like the official explanation says, where they say it pancaked. if it pancaked they wouldnt fall at the speed of gravity. jet fuel doesnt melt steel too.
Wargames Were Cover For the Operational Execution of 9/11
Alex Jones & Paul Joseph Watson | Updated September 20 2004
UPDATE: Alex Jones Discusses 9/11 Wargames in April 2004 Video
For almost three years since 9/11 independent researchers have stockpiled individual smoking guns which prove that the official version of events was not only a lie but operationally impossible.
However, no single smoking gun has yet been forwarded to explain why air defenses categorically reversed Standard Operating Procedure and failed to respond to hijacked jetliners.
Until now. More and more individuals are looking at the facts and highlighting exercise drills that took place on the morning of 9/11.
It is clear that at least five if not six training exercises were in operation in the days leading up to and on the morning of 9/11. This meant that NORAD radar screens showed as many as 22 hijacked airliners at the same time. NORAD had been briefed that this was part of the exercise drill and therefore normal reactive procedure was forestalled and delayed.
The large numbers of 'blips' on NORAD screens that displayed both real and 'drill' hijacked planes explain why confused press reports emerged hours after the attack stating that up to eight planes had been hijacked. Click here for that article.
The drill scenario also explains a comment made by air traffic control personnel which was featured in a July 2004 BBC television report. Click here for that video clip and article. The controller is told that a hijacked airliner is heading for New York and responds by saying, "is this real world or an exercise?" more at - http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2004/080904wargamescover.htm
some videos people might be intrested in -
9-11 mysteries http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=9-11+mysteries&total=506&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
loose change- http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=loose+change&total=3441&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
BYU Professor Steven E Jones WTC Lecture - http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=964034652002408586&q=steven+e+jones&total=147&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
9-11 in plane site - http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5386487651203625811&q=9-11+in+plane+site&total=204&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
david ray griffin 9-11 commision report:omissions and distortions (59mins)- http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6837001821567284154&q=david+ray+griffin&total=307&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
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Re: 9/11 was a inside job, video with convincing arguments. [Re: peter19]
#7534257 - 10/19/07 06:19 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you for not creating a new thread.
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Re: 9/11 was a inside job, video with convincing arguments. [Re: Seuss]
#7534290 - 10/19/07 06:38 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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no problem.
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Re: 9/11 was a inside job, video with convincing arguments. [Re: peter19]
#7534317 - 10/19/07 06:59 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hah. You want to hear some really nutty 9/11 conspiracy theory?
I was in college during 9/11. We always had a lot of moron socialist LaRouche supporters that would hang out at the university center which was the hang out back in the day. They always had these magazines and pamphlets with the most audacious claims. Everyone always ignored them because they had about as much credibility as a trashy gossip magazine you see in the check out isle at the supermarket.
They were always trying to cause trouble and stir people up. Most people ignored them, but it backfired after 9/11.
Like anyone could know immediately after 9/11 what really happened. The day we get back to classes.. they're at the UC and somhow they're convinces it was an attack by the BRITTISH in retaliation for the American Revolution. 1.5 days and they already had LITERATURE all about it. Damn those Larouche supporters are fast. If only they they put that effort into trying not to be retards.
Anywho... they start this mini protest in the middle of the UC trying to convince this people of what's going on... right next to the Arab chicks who set up a table in a good will gesture selling these spicy, AMAZING meat pocket food thingies. Damn they were good. We called them "terrorist burgers" that day. Anywho.... Most of us people were just laughing at the socialists... we were used to them lecturing everyone on campus.... but eventually there were plenty of people who had lost friends and family in the attacks that started getting more irritated and getting into arguments with them,telling them they were makinga mockery of a tragedy.
Well it didn't take long , but eventually the students got into an uproar... pushing them back.. smashing their tables, ripping up their literature and stomping on everything they had.... By mid afternoon they were sitting there, still trying to convince people that their ridiculous hair-brained idea was the truth... standing next to their massive pile of destroyed tables, chairs, trashed magazines, ripped posters... occasionally withstanding a pelting of rocks and books by students that were fed up with them.
It was quite a site.... it would have been amusing if it hadn't been a slap in the face to those students who had lost loved ones. If I hadn't been totally convinced BEFORE that LaRouche was an asshole who only could get people to listen to him by throwing hissy fits and his supporters performing shock-value protests... I definately was that day.
To this day, everytime I walk around DC and run into some LaRouche-ites with their tables set up preaching at people... I have to hold myself back from spitting in their faces, knocking over their tables, and telling them to get a life.
Edited by BrAiN (10/19/07 07:07 AM)
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Re: 9/11 was a inside job, video with convincing arguments. [Re: BrAiN]
#7534331 - 10/19/07 07:07 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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i just want to add about people who have lost loved ones, theres many familys now in the "truth movement" who have lost loved ones and say that they want an investigation into what happened on 9-11. my point behing, some people of the familys also say that it was an inside job, so saying that its a slap in the face its not, considering other familys. i agree about silly ideas though, people come up with things what they just assume.
who knows who exackly did 9-11 or why they did it, (if you believe it was an inside job) because all you can do is speculate. ill just say something else a few days after 9-11 it seemed the president ect new exackly who was behind the attacks, so you could say they were wildly speculateing. just a few days later they had all the 19 hijackers named.
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Re: 9/11 was a inside job, video with convincing arguments. [Re: peter19]
#7534335 - 10/19/07 07:11 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've got nothign against the "truth movement". It's every American's right to be suspicious of what the gov't tells them and to want the truth.
I'm just saying... a DAY after 9/11... and suddenly these people who always have some sort of consporacy theory zine... claim they know eveything about the attack and come up with some stupid, hair brained idea that the BRITTISH caused it as a relatiation for the REVOLUTION 250 years ago.... it's nothing but a stunt to get attention to draw attention to their socialist presidential candidate... a person who was tying to seek presidential office from JAIL. LaRouche is a cock sucker.
THAT"s WHY I'm saying it was a slap in the face.
Now that we've had time to examine all the evidence...I don't believe in 9/11 conspiracy theories, but I have nothing against those who don't believe it was a simple terrorist attack.
If you want to fire people up to "seek the truth".. more power to you... but don't just do it because you want attention.
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Re: 9/11 was a inside job, video with convincing arguments. [Re: peter19]
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Project for the New American Century (PNAC) Project for the New American Century is a neo-conservative think-tank that promotes an ideology of total U.S. world domination through the use of force. The group embraces and disseminates an ideology of faith in force, U.S. supremacy, and rejection of the rule of law in international affairs.
The group's core ideas are expressed in a September 2000 report produced for Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Jeb Bush, and Lewis Libby entitled Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century. The Sunday Herald referred to the report as a "blueprint for U.S. world domination."
According to the Sonoma State University media research group Project Censored, The Neoconservative Plan for Global Dominance was the Top Censored Media Story of 2002-2003.
PNAC's membership includes people such as Richard Perle, Elliot Abrams, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, and William Kristol.
PNAC began to enter the public consciousness when journalist Neil Mackay wrote about the September 2000 report in the September 15th, 2002 edition of the Sunday Herald. According to the article, the report sparked outrage from British Labour MP Tom Dalyell:
Tam Dalyell, the Labour MP, father of the House of Commons and one of the leading rebel voices against war with Iraq, said: 'This is garbage from right-wing think-tanks stuffed with chicken-hawks -- men who have never seen the horror of war but are in love with the idea of war. Men like Cheney, who were draft-dodgers in the Vietnam war.
'This is a blueprint for US world domination -- a new world order of their making. These are the thought processes of fantasist Americans who want to control the world. I am appalled that a British Labour Prime Minister should have got into bed with a crew which has this moral standing.'
The Sunday Herald article highlighted the following goals from the 2000 report, which it termed an "American grand strategy" and "blueprint of world domination":
The U.S. must take military control of the Gulf region whether or not Saddam Hussein is in power: "While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein." The U.S. must "fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theatre wars" as a "core mission" The U.S. forces are "the cavalry on the new American frontier" The report builds upon the 1992 draft document "Defense Planning Guidance," which claimed that the U.S. must "discourage advanced industrial nations from challenging our leadership or even aspiring to a larger regional or global role" Permanent U.S. bases in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, whether or not Saddam Hussein is in power Increasing military pressure on China: "it is time to increase the presence of American forces in southeast Asia" which will lead to "American and allied power providing the spur to the process of democratisation in China" "the creation of 'US Space Forces', to dominate space, and the total control of cyberspace to prevent 'enemies' using the internet against the US" The report contains ambivalent language toward bioterrorism and genetic warfare: "New methods of attack -- electronic, 'non-lethal', biological -- will be more widely available ... combat likely will take place in new dimensions, in space, cyberspace, and perhaps the world of microbes ... advanced forms of biological warfare that can 'target' specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool" Development of "world-wide command-and-control system" to contain dangerous regimes of North Korea, Libya, Syria, and Iran. Some of PNAC's members and associates have been implicated in conflict of interest scandals involving the ways that they profit from the wars and military spending that they promote. For more information, see Who Profits From War? .
from http://home.earthlink.net/~platter/neo-conservatism/pnac.html
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Re: 9/11 was a inside job, video with convincing arguments. [Re: BrAiN]
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Journalists are asked to arrive with an open mind as this is a truth which they are in no position to determine and they may be risking their chances of eternal life. I will be discussing my journey of spiritual redemption, why I know in my heart I am the Messiah and the mission to teach humanity in the run-up to 2012.
This is all rather embarrassing for someone who was an atheist technocrat three years ago. And I am painfully aware how mad all this sounds.
There is however ancient evidence to show that the Messiah is phonetically called ‘David Shayler’. When added to recent signs which have appeared independently of me – including a Messianic Cross of Saturn, Mercury, Venus and the Sun in the skies on 7/7/7, the day I was proclaimed Messiah -- it has become inescapable that a higher power is indicating that I am the anointed or chosen one who has come to save humanity.
Damn, he's cracked.
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Re: 9/11 was a inside job, video with convincing arguments. [Re: peter19]
#7534354 - 10/19/07 07:21 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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"The PNAC program, in a nutshell: America’s military must rule out even the possibility of a serious global or regional challenger anywhere in the world. The regime of Saddam Hussein must be toppled immediately, by U.S. force if necessary. And the entire Middle East must be reordered according to an American plan. PNAC’s most important study notes that selling this plan to the American people will likely take a long time, "absent some catastrophic catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor." (PNAC, Rebuilding America’s Defenses (1997), p.51)" http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20040527220940331
-------------------- “All Truth Goes Through Three Stages. First, it is ridiculed. Then, it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident.” - Arthur Schopenhauer
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peter19
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Re: 9/11 was a inside job, video with convincing arguments. [Re: peter19]
#7534365 - 10/19/07 07:26 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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(from other thread).
and you have to ask yourself when something like 9-11 happens, who bennifits from it???. (in a crime scence thats normally how they find a suspect). and ill give you a few examples from who bennifited -
1, goerge bush/cheneys oil company deffinatly bennifited, in the wars what they started because of the war they can now put pipe lines through the country.
2, larry silverstein got about 4-9 billion dollars from the "attack" because he got it insured 6 months before, and what did he get it insured against?, acts of terrorism. just a coincidence?
3, the military love wars and so do the banks of countrys so they will of deffinatly bennifited. countrys are in crisis and you can loan them money and then basicly you have a good firm grip around there county beause they are indebted to you.
4, through acts of "terrorism" the american and british people have lost a fair few civil libertys. the partiot act got passed in america to name that as an example. phone calls can be monitored ect. all for our own safety of course/.
there will be more but this is just of the top of me head and there is loads more things what point the finger of it behing an inside job of some sort. one of those is - world trade centre building 7, it wasnt hit by a plane it only had light fires and that building collapsed 5hours after the world trade centre attacks. fires cant melt steel and not only that but they say the reason it collapsed was because it was structually unsound. if that was the case you would expect people to die in the buildings right?, i think im right in saying no-one died in the building because it was evacuated. and even the owner on air larry silverstein said " we had to much loss of life that day, so i told them to pull it" and pull it means bring the building down. so it takes how long to plant expolsives in buildings?, weeks because you have to set them off at the right places so the building falls in on it self, so wouldnt that indicate that it was planned?.
-------------------- “All Truth Goes Through Three Stages. First, it is ridiculed. Then, it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident.” - Arthur Schopenhauer
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Re: 9/11 was a inside job, video with convincing arguments. [Re: BrAiN]
#7534390 - 10/19/07 07:33 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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BrAiN said: I've got nothign against the "truth movement". It's every American's right to be suspicious of what the gov't tells them and to want the truth.
I'm just saying... a DAY after 9/11... and suddenly these people who always have some sort of consporacy theory zine... claim they know eveything about the attack and come up with some stupid, hair brained idea that the BRITTISH caused it as a relatiation for the REVOLUTION 250 years ago.... it's nothing but a stunt to get attention to draw attention to their socialist presidential candidate... a person who was tying to seek presidential office from JAIL. LaRouche is a cock sucker.
THAT"s WHY I'm saying it was a slap in the face.
Now that we've had time to examine all the evidence...I don't believe in 9/11 conspiracy theories, but I have nothing against those who don't believe it was a simple terrorist attack.
If you want to fire people up to "seek the truth".. more power to you... but don't just do it because you want attention.
i agree mate. i am the same in that sense also, if you dont go along with it behing an inside job then thats fine, people have the right to believe what ever they want. i try to respect that. some theorys out there are very far fetched but others and deffinatley not. what i dont go with though is that some people, because i and others say it was an inside job, they assume that we believe the jews were behind it or that we believe it was done by space beams ect, lol. wich if people want to believe that then allright, but i dont go with any of those ideas.
-------------------- “All Truth Goes Through Three Stages. First, it is ridiculed. Then, it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident.” - Arthur Schopenhauer
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