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InvisibleRavus
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Privatization of Oxygen
    #6342984 - 12/06/06 11:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Is the privatization of oxygen any more unethical than the privatization of water? After all, if we can supply pure, clean, unadulterated oxygen to those who, in society's eyes, are worthy enough to afford it, we won't have to worry about pollution, because pollution won't affect people as much anymore. Just as we can now pollute the water without the richer people worrying about drinking any of the contaminants, one day oxygen also may become a great commodity of capitalism, and I think this would be a great leap in progress for all of humanity and its rulers, the almighty corporations.

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Re: Privatization of Oxygen [Re: Ravus]
    #6342987 - 12/06/06 11:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

oxygen will become one of the largest commodities if we pollute the ocean's bad enough, that's where 90%+ of our oxygen comes from, water (plants in water)


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Re: Privatization of Oxygen [Re: Ravus]
    #6342995 - 12/06/06 11:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i like my air and water without barcodes, thank you. :grin:

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Re: Privatization of Oxygen [Re: demiu5]
    #6343000 - 12/06/06 11:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds good for the US economy. If we charge third world countries for clean oxygen masks, and everyone in the world is one day forced to use one, all of that money will be directed into our pockets.

I don't know why politicians aren't working harder to pollute the earth. I mean, we're doing a good job, but surely we could speed up progress significantly from our current rate.

The question is, are there any drawbacks to polluting the earth that we haven't foreseen? Would the privatization of oxygen affect the mass of humanity in a way the privatization of water has not?


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Re: Privatization of Oxygen [Re: Ravus]
    #6343344 - 12/07/06 03:27 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Wait until I get my patent for sunlight, I also work on my patent for love, joy and life, of course.
My patent on physical movement is almost in the pocket while this of visual sight will last some time longer.
Perhaps we should patent earth completely for simplification purpose and then sell it in shares ?
Sorry I couldn't resist.
You know that Bush claimed the ownership of the universe for the USA, some weeks ago ? [to be more precise, the space 'above' the earth :cuckoo:] He doesn't have it yet :crazy2:
:lol:

How will you sell the oxygen ? In spray cans ? Built in in air-tight cars,buildings,..domes ? How will you keep the pollution out of this ? This will be very expensive. Maybe air will become such expensive one day...and not only say 'air'. It's the whole pure unpolluted 'nature' which feeds and sustains our life. Yea, let's sell it !
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Re: Privatization of Oxygen [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #6343349 - 12/07/06 03:32 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

You are quite lucid when you want to be.

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Re: Privatization of Oxygen [Re: Ravus]
    #6343709 - 12/07/06 08:39 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Ravus said:
Is the privatization of oxygen any more unethical than the privatization of water? After all, if we can supply pure, clean, unadulterated oxygen to those who, in society's eyes, are worthy enough to afford it, we won't have to worry about pollution, because pollution won't affect people as much anymore. Just as we can now pollute the water without the richer people worrying about drinking any of the contaminants, one day oxygen also may become a great commodity of capitalism, and I think this would be a great leap in progress for all of humanity and its rulers, the almighty corporations.

:thumbup: :syringe:




And why does this matter?


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Re: Privatization of Oxygen [Re: Icelander]
    #6344397 - 12/07/06 12:19 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I could ask the same question about anything. It matters for people that natural resources, even the blueprints for life, are increasingly being subject to patents and privatization. Some capitalists say that the only way to save the earth is to privatize every inch of water and land on it, so that way the owners must care about their property. The poor get poorer, and the rich get richer, and that which was once considered unable to be owned is now in the hands of the few and powerful who collect more now than in any other time in human history.


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Re: Privatization of Oxygen [Re: Ravus]
    #6344411 - 12/07/06 12:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Capitalists, Socialists, environmentalists, "Twas ever thus"

What can be done about the world?

What can be done about oneself?


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Re: Privatization of Oxygen [Re: Ravus]
    #6344574 - 12/07/06 01:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Respirocytes, which are able to carry more than 200 times more oxygen than natural erythrocytes (red blood cells), will squander any hopes of deriving a profit from oxygen.

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Re: Privatization of Oxygen [Re: Ravus]
    #6345682 - 12/07/06 07:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Personally, I support privatizing the sun.


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Re: Privatization of Oxygen [Re: Silversoul]
    #6345701 - 12/07/06 07:49 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Silversoul said:
Personally, I support privatizing the sun.




I agree.


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Re: Privatization of Oxygen [Re: Icelander]
    #6345762 - 12/07/06 08:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

no, icelander, that is privatizing the Son

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Re: Privatization of Oxygen [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6345804 - 12/07/06 08:10 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

oh  :blush:


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Re: Privatization of Oxygen [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #6346767 - 12/08/06 01:17 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Unless we contaminate the medium oxygen is contained in to the point that no natural human organ can derive oxygen from the air without sustaining permanent damage. That is, if we're not already nearing that point, at least in the smog-ridden cities.



Or maybe the government will be a helpful entity for once and give the poor a simple "air tax" to get access to pure, clean air. It's always something though.


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Re: Privatization of Oxygen [Re: Ravus]
    #6347463 - 12/08/06 09:12 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

the planet will be unlivable when it gets to that point. i don't think we would ever reach a point were air is sold. not because those crazy mother fuckers wouldn't do it, or that its to unethical. simply because the earth wont get that far with out shutting down. or shutting us down rather. look at how many problems we have already. hurricanes, tsunamis, earth quakes. not to mention glaciers melting. we are killing the planet. and no matter what our technologies are. we can not live with out the planet functioning properly. and by the time it gets to a point were the air is not breathable. it certainly will not


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Re: Privatization of Oxygen [Re: lsd25icu812]
    #6347540 - 12/08/06 09:52 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

You can privatize my fart, the air has minerals in it.

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Re: Privatization of Oxygen [Re: Ravus]
    #6347779 - 12/08/06 11:32 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

We could have artificial respirators, which were immune to pollutants, installed to replace our currently ineffective lungs. Nanobots could also be utilized to clean up pollutants in our circulatory system and repair damaged tissue. Of course, the poor will have to live with bottled oxygen until the price of these inventions becomes affordable or subsidized by the Government.

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Re: Privatization of Oxygen [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #6348210 - 12/08/06 02:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

The future looks bright in that regard. No matter how bad life becomes, technology will keep us limping on into the future.


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