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OfflineLapius
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a stupid newbie question..somone know????
    #634102 - 05/17/02 09:55 AM (15 years, 15 days ago)

ok i know pins grow off the cake...
but what i was wondering is that do they start pinning on the light cycle or the dark cycle.. i give them 12/12... and i know they just form when they are ready...but i was wondering if people noticed they pinnedm ore on the dark cycle rather then the light cycle..or are they both the same... just a thought
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Re: a stupid newbie question..somone know???? [Re: Lapius]
    #634108 - 05/17/02 09:59 AM (15 years, 15 days ago)

Temperature and Light initiate Pinning....

Also Humidity

Hope that helps

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Re: a stupid newbie question..somone know???? [Re: Lapius]
    #634110 - 05/17/02 10:01 AM (15 years, 15 days ago)

uuhhhh....
Shrooms are phototrophic. They only use the light to tell them which direction to grow. I'm sure pins form during both day and night, but a drop in tempature, a rise in humidity, a drop in c02, and the addition of a light cylce help trigger pinning.


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Re: a stupid newbie question..somone know???? [Re: indicaz]
    #634113 - 05/17/02 10:06 AM (15 years, 15 days ago)

i hear that slowly dropping the temp from like 80 to 70-75 increases pin activity...how would i drop the temp a few degrees without messing with the humidity? anyone?
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Re: a stupid newbie question..somone know???? [Re: Lapius]
    #634146 - 05/17/02 10:41 AM (15 years, 15 days ago)

when your cakes or rye or shit or whatever your using is fully colonized you then pull it out of the incubator which should automaticly give you a 10 degree drop. duh... but if your not using an incubator and you have just let them colonize at room temp. dont even worry about lowering the temp. pinning will be initiated once you birth them into the fruiting chamber and give them plenty of gas exchange(like 2-3 times a day) and plenty of humidity. If the gas exchange is lowering you humidity alot then spray the walls of your terrarium with water while your fanning them.


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Re: a stupid newbie question..somone know???? [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #634151 - 05/17/02 10:44 AM (15 years, 15 days ago)

ok cool....

i have not been fanning as much as i should be i think...i do it twice a day, and i mist once... ill double that up and mist everytime i fan, this should do something. thanks all
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Re: a stupid newbie question..somone know???? [Re: Lapius]
    #634154 - 05/17/02 10:45 AM (15 years, 15 days ago)

you don't want to drop the tempature slowly you want to just drop it down from 85 to about 75. The cold shock helps start the pinning process. Listen to bigswang.


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Re: a stupid newbie question..somone know???? [Re: TeRzMaStA]
    #634173 - 05/17/02 10:54 AM (15 years, 15 days ago)

yes i understand all that,

but i dont know how to drop temp... do i add ice cubes to the terr perlite? i dont know.. heh its at a steady temp of 81 now... and i wouldent know how to derease the temp... im not using anything to heat it up, its just the temp in my room i guess thats making it like this... would an air pump work for a fish tank for air exchange work better then fanning it all the time? any input is aprecated,
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Re: a stupid newbie question..somone know???? [Re: Lapius]
    #634220 - 05/17/02 11:17 AM (15 years, 15 days ago)

an air pump isnt quite enough air exchange but it helps....with an air pump going 24/7 i would still fan my terrarium like twice a day and mist the walls.

dont worry about the temp....cubes dont really need to be cold shocked to pin...i keep all three of my terrariums at 79 degrees...i normally have pins after 4 or 5 days.


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Re: a stupid newbie question..somone know???? [Re: Lapius]
    #634234 - 05/17/02 11:27 AM (15 years, 15 days ago)

Well, the ice cube thing probably would drop the temperature some, but that would be more of a temporary solution.

What are you using as a terrarium?
Are you keeping it in a dark place (like the closet) or out in a room with windows? Spaces that do not receive sunlight tend to stay somewhat cooler.
Have you cold-shocked your cakes?
What are you using for light?
Is it possible to move the terrarium to another location, like a basement or someplace that would have a cooler ambient room temperature?

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Re: a stupid newbie question..somone know???? [Re: FanaTEK]
    #634267 - 05/17/02 11:57 AM (15 years, 15 days ago)

the compleate setup...

i have a large rubbermaid... inside the rubbermaid i have the perlite with the water mix for the humidity... the top of the rubbermaid is cut out, and i got a peice of glass fitted to the hole i made "sorta like a window on top" its in a closet.. i have christmas lights above the glass for my light sourse... i fan it 2 times a day... it has no outside light influence unless i give it to them... as far as cold shock... they were 86 temp in the incubator, and they are like 78 in the terr...but there wasa cold night the other night and it dropped down to 70... then up again the next day, so i guess its already hada natural cold shock... now i have a hole cut out (1/4") on the side of the terr.. with a filter disk over it..so not too much co2 builds up... i also have a mist humidifier running in there, but i have not used it since i found out it has been drying out my cakes a bit, i only use it to rensure my humidity stays at 96%.... they are well kept... still nothing to see though... so thats how it is..hope you can work with what i gave you..any tips would help
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Re: a stupid newbie question..somone know???? [Re: Lapius]
    #634826 - 05/17/02 09:23 PM (15 years, 15 days ago)

Your setup sounds almost exactly like my friend's, except the hole in the side of his aquarium is about 2"x2". The air pump would probably be an improvement, but you'll have to construct a filter box to put it in (don't want to spray the terrarium with outside contams).
About the temp - the only thing I can think of is to move the terrarium to a cooler location. Seems it's a lot more difficult to cool down than to warm up, huh?

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Re: a stupid newbie question..somone know???? [Re: Lapius]
    #634878 - 05/17/02 10:39 PM (15 years, 15 days ago)

The shrooms produce heat. So the more often you fan it, the cooler it will run. If you notice, when you have several shrooms growing, you'll feel a gust of warm air coming out as soon as you take the lid off, everytime you fan it.
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