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    #6338245 - 12/05/06 10:50 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Mumia Abu-Jamal [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #6338261 - 12/05/06 10:53 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

he's a political prisoner? i thought he murdered a guy...


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Re: Mumia Abu-Jamal [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #6338263 - 12/05/06 10:53 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I am not convinced of his innocence.


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Re: Mumia Abu-Jamal [Re: Vvellum]
    #6339090 - 12/06/06 01:56 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

dude ive researched this mumia thing...he sooo did it. i mean there really is no question. the guy is guiltier than sin


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Re: Mumia Abu-Jamal [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #6339148 - 12/06/06 02:18 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)



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    #6345022 - 12/07/06 06:16 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Mumia Abu-Jamal [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #6345128 - 12/07/06 06:52 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

As far as whether he's a murderer or a freedom fighter; it all depends on one's perspective of the world, largely influenced by class & race.

really? what class and race backgrounds lead people to believe that unnecessarily shooting a wounded man to death out of hatred is not murder?


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Re: Mumia Abu-Jamal [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #6345184 - 12/07/06 07:15 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

no, this is not a matter of perspective. it's a matter that all evidence when actually considered outside of the prism of free-mumia-propaganda demonstrates that he killed faulkner. mumia is no freedom fighter. he is not mendela or the IRA or whoever else. he's a racist murderer who cannot be honest.

and do you really consider mumia as important as that? MOVE was a weird racist cult that terrorized their neighborhood and his early involvment with black panthers was quite minimal (of course, inflated in retrospect). his journalism was sloppy and never gathered that much support.


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    #6345239 - 12/07/06 07:34 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Mumia Abu-Jamal [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #6345255 - 12/07/06 07:38 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Just because the war in Iraq is a bad idea doesn't mean Mumia is being held as a political prisoner. He's being held because he shot a cop in cold blood, and offered no explanation for his actions for 20 years before suddenly deciding that he was innocent.

Mumia is not a freedom fighter, he is a murderer.


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    #6345260 - 12/07/06 07:41 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Mumia Abu-Jamal [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #6345304 - 12/07/06 08:02 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

what makes him a political prisoner?


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Re: Mumia Abu-Jamal [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #6345338 - 12/07/06 08:13 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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EntheogenicPeace said: But among poorer people of color, a different opinion of the man (and others) is much more commonplace.


I dont believe that for one bit. Your injecting racism where it doesnt exist.


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Re: Mumia Abu-Jamal [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #6346127 - 12/07/06 11:49 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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wilshire said:
what class and race backgrounds lead people to believe that unnecessarily shooting a wounded man to death out of hatred is not murder?




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EntheogenicPeace said:
[url=http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5365.htm ]http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5365.htm [/url]




I think that answers the question quite clearly.

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what makes him a political prisoner?




There are people and organizations who claim that his conviction was politically motivated; not necessarily saying that he is innocent of murder, but that his trial was not a fair one. But that's where the idea stems from.

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I dont believe that for one bit. Your injecting racism where it doesnt exist.




Explain your assumption please. Jamal is oftentimes featured in hip-hop culture which represents much of the black and latino community.

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Re: Mumia Abu-Jamal [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #6346856 - 12/08/06 04:11 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I recommend this link: myths of mumia - of course it is biased, but if you counter this info + the pro-mumia info, you'll find a synthesis that reveals the truth.

and this is not a case of me being racist. I am quite anti-racist and I am a leftist. I just dont swallow lies. mumia has painted himself as some sort of political prisoner which the fact is he is just a worthless murderer.


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Re: Mumia Abu-Jamal [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #6346871 - 12/08/06 04:19 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

The guy's a murderer.


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Re: Mumia Abu-Jamal [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #6349421 - 12/08/06 11:53 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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But among poorer people of color, a different opinion of the man (and others) is much more commonplace.




Doesn't mean it's correct. As I've said before, multiculturalism doesn't work. This is another illustration of it. Hide your head in the sand if you want, but reality's out there.


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Re: Mumia Abu-Jamal [Re: Conservationist]
    #6349492 - 12/09/06 12:13 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I'm tired of hearing about this cat, I know that for sure. They should either fry his ass or let him go ASAP.


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Re: Mumia Abu-Jamal [Re: Conservationist]
    #6349505 - 12/09/06 12:16 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

huh?


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    #6358487 - 12/11/06 07:22 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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