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Why trip if it's no fun anymore?
    #6332236 - 12/04/06 07:52 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

The first half is about the trip that led upto the issue at hand, you can skip to the next segment if you don't want to read it.




At the beginning of summer this year, I had a mind blowing trip.

I was going to put this under Trip Reports, but the brief review of my trip is only to add some background to the rest of the post.

I want to say it was a bad trip, but it was so much more than that.

We started out by eating 6g each I think, it was more of a 'grab from the bag' approach than anything. Although I've done all my mush trips in the company of J, I still considered him my guide. He's just an amazing, down to earth, calm person whom I've knows for many years.

The first few hours were what I expected, but somehow more. I could already tell it would be the most intense trip of my life. A few memorable memories were walking down a road which was divided into 2 lanes, and everything on the left side was pixilated, like it was made of lego, while everything on the right was surreal and dreamy.

At one point I had to stop J and tell him he was half made of lego, we relived the moment a few times, and the more I laughed the more the trip grew. We were well on our way to peaking in what felt like 40 minutes.

Anyways, we walked around for a few hour sin our old town, it was dark out and we were walking around the woods and such. It's a small town, so it's easy to escape civilization.

We decided at one point to walk across town and up to the old high school. There was a dirt road that ran back into the woods from near the school, and we knew the woods like the back of our hands.

it seemed like the perfect place to trip for awhile, and from there it was only a short trek back to J's house.

Walking up the highway to get to the school, cars kept driving by even though it was around midnight. I was feeling a little sketchy, but I knew it was normal for kids to be walking around, so I wasn't worried about being questioned.

We crested the hill we were walking on and came out beside the schools main field. I looked across the field and saw alot of lights were on around the school, and it didn't feel safe.

I opted to skip the school and head for the dirt road, which ran adjacent to the highway a little then veered off into the woods.

J agreed and we started off down that road, I guess I started walking faster and faster, becasue J kept asking me what the marathon was for. I felt guilty about getting paranoid, so I'd slow down a bit, only to start walking faster.

Finally J said STOP. I turned around and stared at him. He told me he was tired, we had been walking for a few hours, and he wanted to sit.

It was dark, the only illumination was the sky, which was overcast with muddy orange clouds (the orange was the reflections from the sawmill a little ways away). I looked around the area we were in, it was flat becasue we were ontop of a huge hill. Everything was moist and muddy, the sky was muddy, it was very uncomfortable.

J sat down in the middle of the road and started tripping, I asked him if we could just go a bit further until we got into the woods, but he really wanted to rest a few minutes.

I finally sat down beside him, feeling very anxious. I'd never been this high, and I was starting to get paranoid. A car turned onto the highway which went past the school, and for a moment as it went around a corner it looked like it was driving straight for us.

I jumped up and tried to bolt towards the woods, but J grabbed me and said "WATCH!" I watched the car drive by, and I was grateful. If I had taken off, I probably would have felt like I was being chased all night.

Waves of anxiety were hitting me now, and I knew this was turning bad.
Another car drove by, and as the headlights hit us, they illuminated the ENTIRE area we were in, it was like daylight. In the headlights I saw thousands of black bats, blinking in and out of my vision.

It was the first time I had honestly hallucinated. I tried to bolt again, but instead of making it to my feet, a sick flood of terror suddenyl clouded my brain.

I couldn't see anything, I was just panicking, laying on a muddy road freaking out. I did the 2 worst things then, I told myself I was having a bad trip, and I told myself it wouldnt be over for another 8 hours.

I started throwing up in the mud, seeing nothing but the swaying ground and splashed of vomit. The more I puked the more intense the trips became, until I was aware of nothing but the same mud color.

There was no time, or distance, nothing, just that sick light orange mud color. All the weight of my body was in my calf muscles, it was impossible to walk.

A few times I remember feeling J pulling me, making my walk, saying something about getting ,e back to his garage where it's safe.

I guess for about 15 minutes, I was violently swaying and puking on the road, mumbling about mud. I can't even imagine how terrifying it must have been for him, I still feel real bad about it.

Anyways, we got to the woods and I snapped out of it. ALl the star patterns came back, I could breathe and see, it was beautiful. We hugged for like 3 minutes, he just kept asking me "Are you back?!" Are you sure?!", over and over haha.

So we went back to his place, had a couple smoked, killed the lights and put on Led Zeppelin 2. I guess we listened to it for about 6 hours on repeat, until we had almost come down from the trip.

During the music, we sat in his dark garage, it was illuminated only by the blue glow from the stereo. I kept having dark vibes, especially when the music would taper down and go all spacey, but we talked and had philisophical debates and all the usual jazz, so I survived.

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Anyways, that was really long winded and I apologize, it's hard not to go into detail though, I've just never experienced anything so powerful. Both side of the trip were more than anything I've ever experienced before.

Now I can get to point of this thread. For about 3 weeks after that episode, everytime I listened to Led Zeppelin 2, I would have minor anxiety attacks. I would start to feel like I did during the trip, when I thought the bad vibes were coming back.

This alarmed me, but I figured I would get over it. That's passed for the most part, I still get weird feelings of deja-vu once in a while, but nothing I can't handle.

What does alarm me still is that I can't do drugs anymore. While drinking at J's house a few months later, myself and a bunch of friends smoked some pot.

Mabye I pushed it, but I don't think I did. We did a few hot knifes, and this huge cold rush attacked my head. I felt instant nausea and headed for the back door. About half way there, I just blacked out. I fell forward and face butted the door, then lay in a heap for a few seconds on the floor, before waking up with a brief state of amnesia.

I crawled outside and threw up, then sat on the ground with my head in my hands as a bad trip siezed me. It was like being on mushrooms again, the exact same feeling. It ended after a few minutes, and I was shaken to the bone.

This happened on another occasion as well, the blacking out and panic attacks. The other night I smoked a bit of hash, and immediately got that "I just took an unidentified drug" feeling.

I can't even smoke pot comfortably, I always feel so uneasy.
When I start to wonder if I scarred my mind, I get anxious, uneasy.

I've tried mushrooms on VERY small doses 2 times since that one night, and each time I felt a little off.

I keep wanting to try drugs, just to recapture some of the good feelings. I do very little doses, reasurring myself that nothing is wrong, theres no way anything can GO wrong, but it doesn't work.

So I just don't know what to do, I loved being with a close friend, having a wonderful trip and experiencing the world from a personal view. I loved the deep talks, staying up all night and appreciating music that no one else but I could understand.

I've actually been considering going to therapy. Can you imagine, going to therapy so I can do drugs again?

This post turned into quite a ramble, I was suppoused to be asleep 1 and 1/2 hours ago, but I had to finish it!

I guess I'm posting this with the hope that one of you have had a similar experience, and been able to work past it.

So does anyone have any insight, or suggestions about how I could rehabilitate myself? I had a textbook case evil stepmom, who made my childhood shit, but I always had friends to balance it out. I think alot of my bad vibes come from that period in my life. All my trips have had sketchy periods, but I loved them because they were so weird and mysterious, it was like being the lead role in my own movie, but I had no idea how it was going to progress.

I miss that and I want it back, so mabye therapy would help, I'm not sure.

So if you read all this, I love you.


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Re: Why trip if it's no fun anymore? [Re: bornlivedie]
    #6332258 - 12/04/06 08:16 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Honestly, do you really need therapy.

I never liked shrinks and I don't think they can help you much besides medicating you. BTW, you seem to be sensitive to substances so I don't think meds would be a good option.

You know, some people puke on weed, I have seen this befor. If you really want to do drugs, but they make you feel like shit, maybe you shouldn't do drugs. I dunno. If drugs were not fun to use,for me I wouldn't do them.


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Re: Why trip if it's no fun anymore? [Re: bornlivedie]
    #6332261 - 12/04/06 08:18 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe you need to put a new spin on tripping. Instead of doing it to get fucked up and such- use a trip to connect to God (whoever/whatever that is for you)- ask for help getting through this fear.
I know why most people trip- but for me it isn't just to get fucked up... or even just to have a good time with friends. It can be so much more than that.

This is only my opinion- I believe in God and in angels and spirits (I know a lot of people don't on here but that isn't the issue)... when you are tripping you are open to that spiritual world... which resides on a higher vibration than our physical world. If you have no connection to God or your guardian angels- it leaves you open to other spirits- ones that think it is funny to freak you out. You situation seems to me a classic case of a familiar spirit- one of a not so nice variety... that has attached itself to you because it sees how badly it can freak you out... and when you use drugs it is like a beacon to this being to come and attack you. When you use a drug your vibration changes and it alerts this spirit (there may be more than one).

The best way to get rid of it is to let it know you won't be getting freaked out anymore... when they realize your not a target anymore they leave. If you can't control your emotions when you do drugs- then you can't do drugs anymore. It is the emotions part of you that it uses against you. Most people who have bad trips either don't trip anymore or they convince themselves with their will that they are over it- hence letting the spirit know it can't screw with them anymore. They may not even believe in spirits and such- but by using their wills they defeat it unknowingly.

I now this sounds crazy but you may be strong in the ability to connect with spirits which maybe why your experience is so strong/bad.

Wow- I know I sound like some kind of -woo-who freak now- but thats what I think.


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Re: Why trip if it's no fun anymore? [Re: mipa]
    #6332277 - 12/04/06 08:31 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

WTF? Familiar spirits?

Do you even know what a familiar is? A familiar is usually a spirit that witches and other spiritualist can dispatch to do deeds. A witch can curse someone with a familiar spirit that will make them hear voices or go nuts. There are many applications for familiar spirits.

Whether familiar spirits exsist or not, I dunno, but I don't think that this is a case of possession or anything spiritual manifesting itself.

BTW, never tell your beliefs to a shrink, they'd have you on meds or locked up in a mental institute in no time.


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Re: Why trip if it's no fun anymore? [Re: MAGnum]
    #6332594 - 12/04/06 11:21 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Don't remind yourself that nothing go wrong. Wrong idea IMO.

You made a mistake, and saw one way things can go wrong.

Admit that to yourself, allow yourself to discover exactly what you were afraid of on that occasion. This universe is one of cause and effect, you know why your experience happened. Understand your fear as a repercussion of your underestimation of the drug, and let it pass.

You got stuck in an intense frame of mind for a while, it was scary, but you're back to normal now. The places mushrooms take you are not places the sober often stumble into.

Think about it logically for awhile, and realize that the only thing keeping these fears in your head is your will to be afraid of them.



I think I have an idea of why the pot triggers those 'attacks'.
I think you are used to 'checking to see if the bad trip is there' while you are sober- that is to say, I think your fear triggers associative thoughts about your experience.

When you are sober, you experience some fear/anxiety, so you check to see that your mind is not in that bad place (by attempting to push it there) and find everything is normal.

But when you experience that fear on weed, you have extra 'psychedelic mobility' and you accidentally push your mind into the domain you are fearing.

It's the same effect that causes people to veer toward obstacles they look at on the highway, IMO.


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Re: Why trip if it's no fun anymore? [Re: MAGnum]
    #6332599 - 12/04/06 11:25 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

familiar spirit= soul/spirit of a dead person... thats all
NOT a familiar as in a witches familiar- I was speaking of something different. and I am not talking about a possession or anything like that either... and what you believe is neither here nor there- I wasn't talking to you- I was talking to the oringinal poster.

Why don't we let him decide... I might not be right- but I could be- its for bornlivedie to decide- many 'shrinks' believe in God, and most religions believe in angels and that the soul lives on- so BTW- whatever.


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Re: Why trip if it's no fun anymore? [Re: mipa]
    #6332651 - 12/04/06 11:48 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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mipa said:
Maybe you need to put a new spin on tripping. Instead of doing it to get fucked up and such- use a trip to connect to God (whoever/whatever that is for you)- ask for help getting through this fear.
I know why most people trip- but for me it isn't just to get fucked up... or even just to have a good time with friends. It can be so much more than that.

This is only my opinion- I believe in God and in angels and spirits (I know a lot of people don't on here but that isn't the issue)... when you are tripping you are open to that spiritual world... which resides on a higher vibration than our physical world. If you have no connection to God or your guardian angels- it leaves you open to other spirits- ones that think it is funny to freak you out. You situation seems to me a classic case of a familiar spirit- one of a not so nice variety... that has attached itself to you because it sees how badly it can freak you out... and when you use drugs it is like a beacon to this being to come and attack you. When you use a drug your vibration changes and it alerts this spirit (there may be more than one).

The best way to get rid of it is to let it know you won't be getting freaked out anymore... when they realize your not a target anymore they leave. If you can't control your emotions when you do drugs- then you can't do drugs anymore. It is the emotions part of you that it uses against you. Most people who have bad trips either don't trip anymore or they convince themselves with their will that they are over it- hence letting the spirit know it can't screw with them anymore. They may not even believe in spirits and such- but by using their wills they defeat it unknowingly.

I now this sounds crazy but you may be strong in the ability to connect with spirits which maybe why your experience is so strong/bad.

Wow- I know I sound like some kind of -woo-who freak now- but thats what I think.





I am not at all spiritual. Going to put that out there straight up.

I am, however, adept in psychedelics and familiar in psychology.

I have got to say- the solutions many people propose in the spiritual domain, associate very readily and easily with my psychological understanding.

Often times the solutions proposed actually agree so well with my understanding, that it is like hearing the same thing said in another language.

For example:
SPIRITUAL
You situation seems to me a classic case of a familiar spirit- one of a not so nice variety... that has attached itself to you because it sees how badly it can freak you out... and when you use drugs it is like a beacon to this being to come and attack you. When you use a drug your vibration changes and it alerts this spirit (there may be more than one).

PSYCHOLOGICAL
Your situation is a classic case of a recurring thought pattern, which associates heavily with fearful memories... it remains at large because when it is brought to focus your fear inhibits your logic... when you use substances your mind becomes less able to maintain conventional logic barriers.

SPIRITUAL
The best way to get rid of it is to let it know you won't be getting freaked out anymore... when they realize your not a target anymore they leave. If you can't control your emotions when you do drugs- then you can't do drugs anymore. It is the emotions part of you that it uses against you. Most people who have bad trips either don't trip anymore or they convince themselves with their will that they are over it- hence letting the spirit know it can't screw with them anymore. They may not even believe in spirits and such- but by using their wills they defeat it unknowingly.

PSYCHOLOGICAL
The best way to dissolve this thought puzzle is to think about it while you are not afraid... when you realize the thoughts themselves do not have to be connected to fear, the fear will let go. If you can't control your emotions when you do drugs- then you can't do drugs anymore. It is your emotional/experiential mind which drugs cause to overwhelm your logical mind. Some people who have bad trips discontinue use, others integrate their experiences to the point of comfortability before doing more drugs- hence dissolving the associations between drugs and fear. People with these problems are able to use psychological techniques to help heal, even if they do not understand their psychological basis.


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Re: Why trip if it's no fun anymore? [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #6332759 - 12/04/06 12:24 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you ExplosiveMango... very good way to put it into words other than a spiritual way


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Re: Why trip if it's no fun anymore? [Re: mipa]
    #6332890 - 12/04/06 01:08 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, no offense to your approach either, they both have their own benefits.

I'm certainly not afraid to see intelligence in a form other than my own.


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Re: Why trip if it's no fun anymore? [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #6332960 - 12/04/06 01:42 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

MAGnum - I realize seeing a therapist is a bit severe, but it was about more than doing drugs. There's alot of shit in my life I wouldnt mind getting out, and I think alot of it may be responsible for the bad vibes.
I am very senitive to substances like this though, I guess it comes from my artistic background or something, but thanks for the advice :smile:

mipa - That's frightening haha. I'm not sure if thinking about how vulnerable I am is going to help. I don't really belive in GOD, but I do believe in higher powers, and I am very spiritual, so mabye I will try making my peace with them. I know you know I know that all sounds crazy, but it makes sense too, so thank you!

ExplosiveMango - I did make a huge mistake that night, telling myself I was about to have a bad trip was the worst thing to do. Looking back though, I can't think of any way I would have avoided it. ALot of the paranoid, guilty, anxious feelings go back to my childhood (bitchy stepmom). I'm not sure if I use that as a scapegoat, or if she directly affects me still, to this day, but I should figure it out.
I know it's not abnormal for people to throw up while smoking weed, but it had never happened to me before. We used to smoke alot more than I do currently, and it was beautiful and fun.

"PSYCHOLOGICAL
The best way to dissolve this thought puzzle is to think about it while you are not afraid... when you realize the thoughts themselves do not have to be connected to fear, the fear will let go. If you can't control your emotions when you do drugs- then you can't do drugs anymore. It is your emotional/experiential mind which drugs cause to overwhelm your logical mind. Some people who have bad trips discontinue use, others integrate their experiences to the point of comfortability before doing more drugs- hence dissolving the associations between drugs and fear. People with these problems are able to use psychological techniques to help heal, even if they do not understand their psychological basis. "

Believe it or not, this has been my approach since the beginning. I am still glad I had that trip, becasue I had never experienced both sides of the trip before. It was amazing, allthough the price was more than I'm usually willing to pay.





To everyone: thanks for the comments and advice, I'll try and sit down, figure out what went wrong and how I can fix it. Mabye I'll go back to my old town and see J, talk it over with him. Also, I don't do drugs just to get 'fucked up' becasue that's never on my mind.
I just love where I go, the beautiful surreal sights, the indescribable thoughts and moments, all of it.


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Re: Why trip if it's no fun anymore? [Re: bornlivedie]
    #6333460 - 12/04/06 04:37 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Why trip if it's no fun anymore?




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Re: Why trip if it's no fun anymore? [Re: bornlivedie]
    #6333777 - 12/04/06 06:11 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

When you passed out on weed, it sounds like your blood presure and glucose levels went a bit haywire. Anyway, on a different note:

"Always stay in your own movie" -Ken Kesey

One thing I do to keep myself in my own movie when I'm under the influences is to make sure that I keep my interpretation of what I'm experiencing far away from good/bad. If you do not attatch positive/negative emotions to whatever you're experiencing, it will become what it truely is - an experience - and you will no longer be stuck on the good-trip/bad-trip duality :peace: :yinyang: :peace:

Am I having a good time? Am I totally out of it? What if a tiger walked into my room and started eating my skin? - all these questions ask your perceptive mind to judge what you're active mind is experiencing. Keep this for after you're back on the ground!

Now I'm not saying you shouldn't feel any emotions whilst tripping, I'm just saying if you don't worry about sticking your own onto what you're already experiencing, you'll be a lot more open to emotions and thought on a grander scale :rocket:


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Re: Why trip if it's no fun anymore? [Re: takk]
    #6333818 - 12/04/06 06:26 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Honestly, you need therapy :cuckoo:


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Re: Why trip if it's no fun anymore? [Re: bornlivedie]
    #6334168 - 12/04/06 07:56 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

you mentioned Lego

shrooms and acid etc. take a certain 5-8 hour committment, and if you do not threashold (mind I do like light doses personally for other reasons) you will not get to lego land.

Candy land, lego land, whatever you want to call it: the mind has a sweet cute candy nature when things layer up to the degree that is peculiar to psychedelics, well beyond the toxic limits of alcohol and uniquely non sleepy shiny luminous - very reminiscent of childhood...

anyway. this fun thing that is like a toy, or maybe a psychedelic teddy bear, that many seem to want to achieve.

but the 8 hour window of comittment is difficult to arrange and if you shoot low you miss the effect and if you shoot too high you are just a puddle for the long duration.

so what I propose, initially, to determine if you really are interested in candy land or lego land, is to try Salvia which puts you there for 5-8 minutes. IMO it is a fine treat if you like that sort of thing. It is a very low investment in time.

Seldom do you actually go there with another tripper unless you are very lucky; but if that is your real yearning. maybe joining a poetry club or art will help - sometimes the creative side brings out an essential connection between people.


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Re: Why trip if it's no fun anymore? [Re: Brainiac]
    #6334174 - 12/04/06 07:59 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Q: Why trip if its no fun anymore?
A: There is no point. :cuckoo:


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Re: Why trip if it's no fun anymore? [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #6335832 - 12/05/06 09:41 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Interesting point of view. I agree. It is the post-traumatic stress that is bringing up these memories and associations with those feelings through everyday life and/or feelings of being off baseline. I personally do not believe that drugs are out for him entirely though. He experienced a psychedelic crisis and needs to confront those fears, not run away from them. I realize that you're not saying he should run away, but not going through the experience again, meaning tripping again, will only create phobias.

I am in a similar position myself. I also went through a similar experience on a 14 gram dose of shrooms. I have tried tripping since then, but always seem to be waiting for the anxiety to rear its head during the trip. I am currently planning a trip with a moderate dose, a dose that will not let me escape the experience, with my wife trip sitting me. My goal is to do enough research to break through. I want to devise a script, if you will, that my wife can go through with me to break these thought patterns.

Here is what I believe can happen:

1. Thought loops can be broken with the right direction and guidance.
2. Training your mind to deal with anxious thoughts will aid in learning to let go of them.
3. I truly believe you have to talk through those rough spots, not try and ignore them.
4. You have to take those anxious thoughts head on or they will never go away.

I think we need to start a thread for those individuals who are experiencing anxiety or panic attacks. What I would like to see happen is we all come together as a community and devise a plan, based on personal experiences or psychological knowledge, that will allow the person to break through these vicious thought patterns and move on.

Does anyone have any ideas?


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Re: Why trip if it's no fun anymore? [Re: Wronguy]
    #6335874 - 12/05/06 09:53 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Try and gain enough comfortability with the thoughts that you can share them with the community in specific context, or find a way to share the trouble spots of your thoughts without the personal parts.

Then allow other people to share solutions to similar problems,
find the information you need to feel confident in your ability to solve your problem,
relax the thoughts into beliefs and you will be cured.

Mental self-control exercises may be helpful, such as meditation or self-hypnosis.


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Re: Why trip if it's no fun anymore? [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #6335929 - 12/05/06 10:20 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I was hoping you would chime in here. Do you have any specific examples to your reply? I'm curious what you mean by sharing trouble spots without the personal parts, as trouble typically stems from personal issues. Perhaps it is how one would react to disturbing images and the thought process that should or can go along with that to avoid negativity?


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Re: Why trip if it's no fun anymore? [Re: Wronguy]
    #6336629 - 12/05/06 01:58 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

This sounds kind of like my buddy. We tripped together during Spring Break of '06, I tripped insanely hard b/c for 5 months I had been completely sober, and since it was my first time, I didn't know what it would be like so when I began to feel it I smoked 4 bowls of DANK bud and it shot me into a crazy intense trip..like level 3 or 4.
Anyways..
My buddy tripped hard too, up until the comedown when he started freaking over his eye, saying it felt like it was wicked puffy and about to fall out. Eventually he came down, and all was good.
About 2 months later in June, he and I trip again, as soon as it kicks in for both of us, he starts talking about his eye and how its bothering him bad, and he gets real scared, I tried everything I could to comfort him, it was just real bad for him. Once again, he came down, alls good.
Like 2 weeks later, hes at my party and starts toking with like me and 20 of my friends. Boom, complains of his eye. Since that party, to this day, his eye gives him problems with pain and what not, hes been to optometrists, psychologists, doctors, specialists, all over, and they've all told him "Theres nothing wrong"..
Maybe if you scare yourself that bad during a trip, it sort of "burns" the feeling into your brain even if its not really there..
My only suggestion would be to dose and then re-do what you did that night, and if you start feeling uneasy try to break through it..
Just my input though...good luck man.


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Re: Why trip if it's no fun anymore? [Re: Woahtubulardude]
    #6336682 - 12/05/06 02:08 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

call me a dick, but i ain't reading that long ass post...

someone sum it up for me.


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