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OfflineFMRC
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New Vendor Rules By Thor
    #633658 - 05/16/02 09:22 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Only Vendors who pay for advertising at the shroomery can post in the Vendor forum or promote their products anywhere on this website

FMRC's active mailing list exceeds 20,000. We sell the Dual Element Ion for only $40, that's half the price others sell the same identical item for. Since 1972 we have offered the worlds's largest mushroom spore bank. We publish TWO mushroom Journals. We offer FIVE different Catalogs. On and on and on and on......Now, even though many of you have expressed gladness for hearing about us, and thanking us for all the money we have saved you, all the questions we have answered, once again, on and on and on and on......Thor has posted we can no longer advise you people about our products because we do not advertise at the shroomery. With over 20,000 active customers, 3 full time and 5 part time workers, FMRC does not buy any advertising. Mushrooms are all I do. I have no other 2nd job. Seems to me, after being here for 30 years now, our knowledge and experience (FMRC even releases information on psychoactive mushrooms obtained under a Controlled Substances Registration Certificate from the U.S. Department Of Justice Drug Enforcement Administration, Schedule I, DEA Registration Number #PF0238471, issued to FMRC, Stephen L. Peele, Curator), would be welcomed. Who else could possibly even come close? Certainly not anyone else I have seen here. It appears to me that FMRC is being forced out of the shroomery because we do not pay for advertising here (or maybe there is a hidden reason). Hell, no one ever even told me how to place ads here, and now we are being pushed out. Anyone can place free ads in our discussion room at www.mushroomsfmrc.com, and I certainly wouldn't prohibit and screen out ones because they didn't pay me money for the service. I thought forums were for learning, not raising money. Thor may not let this posting go through, so just in case, I will publish this message in both of our Journals "THE MUSHROOM CULTURE", The Journal Of Mushroom Cultivation (TMC), and "TEONANACATL", The International Journal Of Psychoactive Mushrooms (TEO). I wish to thank all of you who contacted me by way of this site, and thank all of you for the kind words and letters.........Until this policy changes, FMRC feels that it is not welcomed here and leaves you at the mercy of "their vendors". Any comments or suggestions can be sent to FloridaMycology@cs.com. Even though "pushed out", I remain respectfully yours, Stephen L. Peele, Curator FMRC since 1972


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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: FMRC]
    #633685 - 05/16/02 09:49 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

No one is being "pushed out". Here's my take on things from a related thread in the suggestions forum.:


In reply to:

>> 3. Only Vendors who pay for advertising at the shroomery can post in the Vendor forum or promote their products anywhere on this website.







I think this is the right move to make. I suggested to Thor to change the name from "Vendors" Forum to "Sponsors" Forum.

If someone wants to exploit The Shroomery for financial gain then why wouldn't The Shroomery ask the same in return.

This could potentially be a windfall for The Shroomery, forcing the hold-out vendors to start footing part of the bill around here.

Why shouldn't the sponsors who are currently paying the bills for this place to exist not be rewarded for their efforts.

The Shroomery is the Big Kahoona of mushroom sites, why would a vendor not want to run a banner ad? The rates are not unreasonable, in fact they are low enough for a succesful vendor to easily surpass in profit margin. Besides that it's also a write-off as a business expense. Why would anybody have a problem with this?

It's real simple: you wan't to play, you have to pay. It works out beneficially for everyone involved.

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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: FMRC]
    #633690 - 05/16/02 09:52 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

You offer absolutely nothing to this community. Even your catalogs cost money, so why bitch about a WEBSITE demanding money from people who want to advertise on their site. If you are so big and helpful to us, email Thor and he will happily sell you banner space here!!! If you and your company refuse to pay, you can't advertise here, GET IT.

Ralphster in under two years has done more for the OMC then you guys have done in your entire existence. The legendary FMRC.



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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: FMRC]
    #633703 - 05/16/02 10:11 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

And why do you have Pan. cyanescens and Cop. cyanescens selling for two different prices? They are the same mushroom!!!


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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: FMRC]
    #633762 - 05/17/02 12:52 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Hey, tell me FMRC,

I noticed on your site, you are offering a cubensis spore print 'Amazon', is this from the Amazon??

Thanx



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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: FMRC]
    #633766 - 05/17/02 12:59 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

You're a vendor, the shroomery is an informational website. It's a completely different business model.

You make money your way, they make money their way. What part of this don't you understand?

Nobody owes you anything. Shit or get off the pot.

I've only been here about 3 months, and I know how to place an ad on the Shroomery.

Here you go.







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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ]
    #633770 - 05/17/02 01:05 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Well spoken!!!

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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: FMRC]
    #633812 - 05/17/02 02:20 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not a vendor and I don't plan on becoming one. I see it the same way though. You don't pay you don't play. I can see charging vendors to display graphical ads on one's website. I cannot see charging vendors to post or talk about their products in forums. It's good to give consumers extra choices...even those choices that can't afford or just will not pay for ad space. I see this limiting of vendors as a way to increase income. If it's really needed to support this website then...maybe...MAYBE.. but if not then it's an annoying money grubbing thing to do...is this website for profit now? If so I'm out of here as well. It is for extra income one way or another otherwise why do it? I do not mind seeing vendors that do not buy ad space here advertise their products in posts. Why should anyone else? Oh ...ok...they don't pay so they shouldn't have the right eh? Do consumers not have the right to see all choices available..even those that don't/can't fork up extra cash to be well known? It's just a message board. Let people decide for themselves.
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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: Great_Cthulhu]
    #633842 - 05/17/02 03:59 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Dude wake up! This site has always been for profit.


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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: FMRC]
    #633899 - 05/17/02 05:34 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

When I first read Thor's new rules I didn't really think much of it. Then after a while it dawned on me how this would keep start-up venders from gaining exposure. Is this because Thor wishes to become a vender? That would be a BAD thing for the shroomery! I think that if this website is .org then it should allow a free exchange of info, pay or not. I have dealt with several venders and know what I like and expect. Maybe I'll boycott venders being pimped out by the shroomery. This site is getting a worse reputation all the time. Maybe it's just time to take my sorry ass to one of the other sites that don't have such stupid policies. One other thing, I just love how people jump on the bandwagon in threads like this. It must make you guys feel good knowing that Baby Hitler agrees with you.
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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: FMRC]
    #633925 - 05/17/02 06:22 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

If you want to have a banner ad then of course that will cost but there is no stopping you from just having a sig.

You have to realize that there are some 'vendors' here who are only in it for the money, they couldn't even spell mushroom a year ago when they first discovered the shroomery. They no nothing about mycology and everything about internet marketing. They are very greedy and will do anything to steal a customer including delibertly posting lies and slander about other vendors. I've seen it here a million times. There websites are only pricelists, they offer no information that someone might learn from other than whats 'on sale'.
And they think that because they spent a couple dollars on an ad, that makes them better than a professional mycologist who has lived mushrooms for 30 years.

What joke!

I for one am in this for a hobby. Being a part-time vendor allows me the opportunity to promote saving the enviroment, especially Mt. Elphinstone which is what CaptainMaxMushroom is all about. As the official mascot of an enviromental group, it's what I am and what I do.

I may be getting a banner ad if the prices are right, they should drop as more people get the ads. But basically, this is a hobby and I don't have the time or spores to deal with what will likely be a lot of extra customers.

Some of these vendors should be lucky to lick the toes of a real mycologist but instead they will try to undermine your business and discourage people from visiting your site where they may actually learn something more than the latest used car slaesman gimmick.


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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: Great_Cthulhu]
    #633939 - 05/17/02 06:45 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Well you probalby did not notice the exchange forum and the freedom for us to use it!

What is wrong with some money earned for all those many hours invested in the shroomery?

Peace Bro,

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Post deleted by users_request [Re: FMRC]
    #634016 - 05/17/02 08:26 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ]
    #634100 - 05/17/02 09:53 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I would now like to make a call for all the Mods and Admins to begin enforcing this rule immediately.

Even after Thor clearly stated the new rules, we still have vendors who are not sponsors promoting their site. What gives? Either we enforce the rules or we don't impose them. Let's begin this new era at "The Shroomery" TODAY

-Boxtop


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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: MicronMagick]
    #634101 - 05/17/02 09:54 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

My opinion on the issue as posted in the suggestion forum:

I personally think it's an all around bad idea. My opinion is that vendors who participate in the community are doing the community a service by their simple presence here. They are taking their time and effort to keep us updated with what's going on in the world of mycology supplies. This is a great service to the community and we would be harmed greatly if we were to loose this service.

And what exactly constitutes promoting ones products? Let's say I have a question for a non-paying vendor, where do I post it? Well, the vendor forum would make sense, but no, they won't be able to answer it there because they can't post there at all. Perhaps in one of the cult forums? nope it'd be off topic, and even at that the vendor would be accused of promoting his product outside of the vendor forum which he can't post in. Even if vendors were allowed to discuss their products/services in other forums, anytime a question was posted by a (relatively) unknown member, suspicions of sock pupeteering would imediately be raised. Effectively, anyone who in any way participates in any type of mycological commerce would be practically perma-banned. This would include people like MJ who is a vendor of mushroom related supplies, but who doesn't own a banner. Is anyone seriously thinking this through, or did it just seem like a good idea?

I see no good way around this issue without damaging the community. Remember, this is a community, not a business. WE paid for the new server, with the help of the vendors. And that's exactly how any further money should be raised. By community residents in concert with community businesses. Not by censorship of valid important information which is good for the community.
Please resist the .com urges
I recomend a serious reconsideration.


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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ]
    #634126 - 05/17/02 10:20 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

>"I would now like to make a call for all the Mods and Admins to begin enforcing this rule immediately."


As one of the mods of this forum I take full responsability for aproving this post. As I have expressed via PM to BoxTop, Thor, RoadKill and others here I made a big mistake aproving this post. I realized it right after I did it. Unfortuntly there is no means of "unaproving" a post once it's been approved.

Why did I approve it? Simple- I got in too big a rush and scaned the message real fast and mistook the true meaning of his post for the flame that it truly was. I realized that I had fucked up right after I did it. I apoligize for my goof up and can assure all concerned here that from now on I will take more time and read every word of any post pending aproval here.

Please forgive me gang, I know that I really goofed here.

Thanks for your understanding in this matter.


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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: mycofile]
    #634145 - 05/17/02 10:39 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I SECOND MYCOFILE'S MOTION TO RECONSIDER!!!


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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: mycofile]
    #634191 - 05/17/02 11:01 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

In reply to:

Not by censorship of valid important information which is good for the community





I would hardly call an advertisement by a vendor who doesn't help support the site, "important information". If they have some new breakthrough growing method or some fabulous new invention, it will get posted anyway.

As was mentioned earlier, you may still have links in your sigs. That should be enough advertisement for anyone looking to make a quick buck, and not wanting to see this community continue to grow.

In reply to:

Let's say I have a question for a non-paying vendor, where do I post it? Well, the vendor forum would make sense, but no, they won't be able to answer it there because they can't post there at all.




We never said they can't post at all. They just can't start threads blatantly advertising a product.

MJ is a totally different story. He has contributed so much to this site that that alone is worth more than him having 100 banners with us. Respected members of the community will be just that, respected. These rules apply to new vendors who have contributed nothing.


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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ]
    #634235 - 05/17/02 11:30 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Bagman paid for a banner, although his post rants are not appropriate for the forum and I believe one of the mods has contacted him about those posts.


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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: Jammer]
    #634243 - 05/17/02 11:35 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Jammer I think you did the right thing by approving the thread. The only way the community can toss around ideas even if we disagree is to discuss it. I dont know this guy at the FMRC but I would say if his business is the size he says it is then buying a banner shouldnt be a problem. I do disagree though with vendors who dont own a banner not being able to contribute here. I noticed though it didnt take the vendors who own banners to jump on this band wagon. Seems fairly self serving to me. If there is a honest vendor out there who supplies a good product at a reasonable price but for some reason cant afford to advertise I m willing to work something out with them in the way of finances. All they need to do is PM me with a little history and proposal.


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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: FMRC]
    #634247 - 05/17/02 11:38 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

In reply to:

Thor has posted we can no longer advise you people about our products because we do not advertise at the shroomery. With over 20,000 active customers, 3 full time and 5 part time workers, FMRC does not buy any advertising.



The point is still just that you are selling products and making money off of them. The Shroomery is not run for free and we have the same right to recieve money in order to run this place and improve it.
In reply to:

It appears to me that FMRC is being forced out of the shroomery because we do not pay for advertising here (or maybe there is a hidden reason).



This is not the only website that has this policy, in fact we had been discussing this way before Mr G and FMRC returned to regular posting. It is all about fairness to those who support the shroomery with monthly ADs.
In reply to:

I thought forums were for learning, not raising money.



We have to pay bills for this website, if we didn't raise money the Shroomery would NOT exist. If you want to offer knowladge that is totally acceptable, but advertising on the boards for your products without a banner is a no no.
In reply to:

Until this policy changes, FMRC feels that it is not welcomed here and leaves you at the mercy of "their vendors". Any comments or suggestions can be sent to FloridaMycology@cs.com. Even though "pushed out", I remain respectfully yours, Stephen L. Peele, Curator FMRC since 1972



I told you long ago about Ads, you were interested in one but never responded after I told you the rates. This policy was not directed at you, it was in the works way before you came back again.


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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: Thor]
    #634385 - 05/17/02 01:36 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ralphster44]
    #634446 - 05/17/02 02:48 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I would GLADLY pay $5 per month if you would just keep this an open forum for information about the possible products that could be used to improve the experience of mushroom enthusiasts. I have done business and learned from many goofs, flakes and unpopular people in the last MANY years. I would just hope that others would not be deprived (or sent astray) by limiting the number of educational contacts that may be made. Probably I'm the only one that would pay for this idealistic principle.


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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: FMRC]
    #634529 - 05/17/02 04:19 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I donated a couple hundred dollars worth of spores to help raise the money for the new server and the first thing they do with it is ban me from the posting in the vendors forum??

wtf???


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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ]
    #634651 - 05/17/02 06:37 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)



















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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ]
    #634758 - 05/17/02 08:16 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I could not have said it better BT


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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: FMRC]
    #634811 - 05/17/02 09:07 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

It's not an issue of is a vendor here for "Money" or not. Money is what makes a business run; maintain the ability to expand and become bigger and better( there for producing a better product). Customers that buy from vendors are just looking for the best product. So whether you've been doing this 30 years or just started money is the entire reason all these sites exist today.

My OPINION in the matter: Making vendors pay to play is a "drastic change" (you must be one who predicts the future to know where this will lead). I for one think it's a good ideal. I try to put myself in the vendors shoes and I agree with BOXTOP(why wouldn't a vendor not won't to run a banner add?) I think this would help stop the fly by night scams while hurting startup vendors( a big trade off) I think if a new vendor lookes Legitimate and plans to "RENT" ad space in the future they should have there Month or so on the Shroomery. (Dont deny potential ad revenue)
Mabe this should be deligated in a private matter between vendor&shroomery.

Or mabe it should just stay the same( if it isn't broken dont fix it).

(If you want to have a banner ad then of course that will cost but there is no stopping you from just having a sig)
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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ]
    #634891 - 05/17/02 11:01 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

First thing we do? The raffle was like 3 months ago.

Firstly this isn't a punishment, its about running the shroomery with fairness to all. If you bought a banner max and there were other vendors who didn't pay a cent who used this place like their own personal garage sale I'm sure you'd be the first to complain about that.

Its only reasonable, you make money off the selling of spores and if you can't give back to the shroomery then you can't use it as your own personal playground.

Fair is fair.


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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ]
    #634965 - 05/18/02 03:21 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

is it me or are .org pages supposed to be non-profit?

maybe not-maybe so-

but hey i thought the vendor forum was about asking vendors questions about their products,not spamming advertisment-

so now only *paying* vendors can post there

i would agree with max-after some of these vendors donta for the raffle,now they are getting closed out-hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

i really could give a shit less-i dont order spores-i have yet to see a syringe from a vendor(except box-his are definetly ok)that was of the quality mine is-

but hey if this is what thor and 3d have to do to get more sponsers,then so be it-im sure people who hang in vendors forum,will find another place to hang-sorry to hear that i wont be able to hang here anymore-

this will hurt the new Blu Fairy Supply shop-which carried alot of items newqbies cant seem to find-seem at one time this was about having fun,and just a little cultivation-now it seems thats its all about the $$-


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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: Thor]
    #634996 - 05/18/02 04:25 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Obviously this is coming about because of the whining of the same vendor/trolls who have turned this place into the sideshow/garage sale it is today.
Funny thing, none of them complained when they were new and filling this place with spam, spam and nothing but spam.

Ryche had a banner here for years, I never seen him whining when mcman, boxtop and rolf started with thier constant spamming, price undercutting, weekly sales and giant sigs, etc.

I've never been one to play that way. My strategy has always been to answer peoples questions or post helpful information and leave a discreet sig at the bottom.

Even if I had a banner, I wouldn't be posting the spam these others do. I don't operate like a used car salesman.

If I didn't give a damn about mushrooms and only cared about money, like these other 'vendors', then I'd have banners, ads in High Times, billboards on the moon too!

Basically what you are saying is if I don't have a banner then I can't spam like the others.

Well I don't spam like the others anyways and will get a banner when and if *I* feel like it!

I think if a vendor wants any respect, you have to earn it. It's not something you can simply buy with an ad. Perhaps it should be mandatory that these vendors answer some questions in the cult forum, the mushroom hunting forum, the edibles forum.....like I have been doing for years.....if they can. Isn't that what this website is all about? Spreading information? Or is it just about money now? I see a loss of integrity here. People who were banned have bought there way back in. People with no mycological experience whatsoever are dictating how this place is being run because they paid a couple dollars for an ad.

But I do agree something should be done about these people who post nothing but ugly pure spam complete with prices, etc. It's very tasteless and classless and whether they bought there right to do it or not, it's still making this place look like an ugly bulletin board at the laundromat!


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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: Thor]
    #635024 - 05/18/02 05:13 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)



Gee, it seems like only a couple weeks ago that people were complaining about not getting thier prizes from some of the vendors who have banners.

Do these people think that because they bought a banner they no longer are obligated to providing the prizes? I sent my prizes out weeks ago!

I guess what I really want to say is that whether someone has a banner or not, the constant stream of used car slaesman gimmicks make the shroomery look like a laundromat!


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    #635436 - 05/18/02 02:09 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ]
    #635458 - 05/18/02 02:44 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

>the constant stream of used car slaesman gimmicks make the shroomery look like a laundromat!

I'd have to agree with this statement.

'Vendors' make money off something which is so sacred, something which is blown by the wind. All I see is vendors fighting with each other, try to out best each other, try to monopolise. I was under the impression this was a community, you don't know what a community is, look it up.
Entheogens are molecules of change, consciousness expanders, and when used in the correct time/space can bond people like nothing else on this Earth. This is a divine gift from the Goddess.

AND LOOK WHAT YOU ARE DOING WITH IT!!

I suppose its just a reflection of the the way the world is, a bit sad really.

This place is losing my respect, and probably many others.

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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: GaNjAShRooM]
    #635559 - 05/18/02 05:01 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

>is it me or are .org pages supposed to be non-profit?
Yes, non-profit. This means they cannot have any money left over after at the end of the fical year. This means that one can receive 1 million dollars, investing it back into the non-profit organization, and it's still non-profit, becuase there is no left over money. if there is, they have to pay taxes on it and it isn't non-profit. Also, there are some rules that you have to put the money back into the organization, and not just buy weed and hookers.


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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #635589 - 05/18/02 05:14 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

.org is like any other extension, if you host a site with .org it doesn't make it any different than say .com.

The Shroomery is not non profit, in order to qualify for that it would take some serious work and not to mention we wouldn't qualify either.



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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: Thor]
    #635624 - 05/18/02 05:47 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

the only major tld (top level domain) you need to "qualify" for is .edu

Then there are the several other tld's, that arent so major, you need to qualify for like .us must be a US occupant, .ca canadian and so on...


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    #635626 - 05/18/02 05:47 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ralphster44]
    #635690 - 05/18/02 06:58 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

ralph i agree- 100%

i wish i could get a 3/4 inch pan print

i have never seen one that big-lol-

i was once thinking about vending spores-LOL-not now

i would much rather help a strong reliable vendor out, than try and cut my friends throat




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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ralphster44]
    #635858 - 05/18/02 10:42 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

This place can be HElpfull information, a bundle of answered questions,
a making money source and all that and a "bag of chips".

The shroomery is evolving and you must evolve too(even if you despise it).
(If you can't fightum joinum or out think um).

Even if the Shroomery were to shut down it would live on vicariously threw
someone else( This community is here to stay)(Theres more members now
than ever before).

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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ralphster44]
    #635901 - 05/19/02 12:39 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

>"This 6 dollar syringe shit is bullshit."


God Bless ya man... (I have the most respect for you sir!)

But are you aware that the syringe price war is now down to $4.00? See this.

(I agree... no profit here)


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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ralphster44]
    #635965 - 05/19/02 03:18 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

hahahahahah Ralph what you re really pissed about is that you ll have to drop your syringe price or lose customers. If a person can buy a print for 10 bucks and make 6 syringes and sell them for say only 4 bucks a piece that is still one hell of a profit. Thats what you re seeing here. The profit is huge at 4 bucks a syringe as above and its outrageous at 10 bucks a syringe. btw can I order 1000 of your 1 dollar prints at the FSR? hahaaha J/K.


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    #636202 - 05/19/02 09:38 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

You finally see the light ralf, too bad you're the one who supplied the bulb!


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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ralphster44]
    #636521 - 05/19/02 02:58 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe you just need to work on your efficiency a little more. HUP! HUP! HUP!

I was also basing this estimate on making MANY syringes at a time. Syringes will keep, you don't need to make them "to order" If you do them in bulk It will cut your time drastically. If you're doing it this way you should have boxes of 500 or more syringes of each race sitting in a refridgerator.

Make up sporewater in batches of 120ml, then do ten syringes.




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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #636795 - 05/19/02 06:57 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

sure you can mass syringe-but id rather know that the syringes i just payed cash for was freshly made from fresh spores

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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ralphster44]
    #638817 - 05/21/02 08:45 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I certainly support the new policy. And I dont see anyting wrong with Thor and 3D, The Shroomery making some prophit.
I encourage it actually. These guys have spent a lot of time and hard work on this place and keeping it afloat. What is their motivation for doing this for so long if they have to foot the bill for everything and do the work. The vendors making money from this place should be paying for banner space or donating money. It pays the bills here and puts some money in the pockets of our admins.. it helps keep them motivated. They are not making much money so why complain. I know from all my talks with Thor he is not just doing this for money, he wasnt making any money for a very long time. Thor and 3D do it out of a passion for this place. I for one think they have both done a great job. The shroomery may not exist today if it had not been for their hard work and the financial backing and support of some of us vendors here.


You said that well Ralphster. There are a lot of new vendors just buying random prints from anyone who will sell them to them cheap, making syringes, and selling them for dirt cheap. And who knows if the customer is actually getting the correct strain he is paying for. Its been very obvious a few of them know very little about mushroom growing.
There has been a lot of these "fly by night" vendors pop up over the years and scam people and disappear. So be cautious.
Ralphster you already know who some of them are, stop supporting their efforts with these cheap prints. In turn your only hurting your own business as well. Make them earn it and learn how to grow their own mushrooms and collect spores.
Its a lot of hard work as they will soon see. Some people looking for the cheap deal will buy into this $4 and $5 syringe deal and could care less about quality or what they are actually getting. Those vendors will run out of spores if they dont have anyone to buy them from for so cheap. Or they will continue to buy anything they can get and label them as they please, just to make a buck. Hopefully people will wise up to it.




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