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 Thor
Anti-Theist OVERLORD
 
Registered: 08/12/98
Posts: 10,017
Loc: Iceland
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 Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor  [Re: FMRC]
#634247 - 05/17/02 09:38 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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In reply to:
Thor has posted we can no longer advise you people about our products because we do not advertise at the shroomery. With over 20,000 active customers, 3 full time and 5 part time workers, FMRC does not buy any advertising.
The point is still just that you are selling products and making money off of them. The Shroomery is not run for free and we have the same right to recieve money in order to run this place and improve it.
In reply to:
It appears to me that FMRC is being forced out of the shroomery because we do not pay for advertising here (or maybe there is a hidden reason).
This is not the only website that has this policy, in fact we had been discussing this way before Mr G and FMRC returned to regular posting. It is all about fairness to those who support the shroomery with monthly ADs.
In reply to:
I thought forums were for learning, not raising money.
We have to pay bills for this website, if we didn't raise money the Shroomery would NOT exist. If you want to offer knowladge that is totally acceptable, but advertising on the boards for your products without a banner is a no no.
In reply to:
Until this policy changes, FMRC feels that it is not welcomed here and leaves you at the mercy of "their vendors". Any comments or suggestions can be sent to FloridaMycology@cs.com. Even though "pushed out", I remain respectfully yours, Stephen L. Peele, Curator FMRC since 1972
I told you long ago about Ads, you were interested in one but never responded after I told you the rates. This policy was not directed at you, it was in the works way before you came back again.
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ralphster44
collector
Registered: 01/03/01
Posts: 4,657
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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: Thor]
#634385 - 05/17/02 11:36 AM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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 johnwsmoke
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Registered: 03/17/02
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 Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ralphster44]
#634446 - 05/17/02 12:48 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would GLADLY pay $5 per month if you would just keep this an open forum for information about the possible products that could be used to improve the experience of mushroom enthusiasts. I have done business and learned from many goofs, flakes and unpopular people in the last MANY years. I would just hope that others would not be deprived (or sent astray) by limiting the number of educational contacts that may be made. Probably I'm the only one that would pay for this idealistic principle. 
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Anonymous
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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: FMRC]
#634529 - 05/17/02 02:19 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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I donated a couple hundred dollars worth of spores to help raise the money for the new server and the first thing they do with it is ban me from the posting in the vendors forum??
wtf???
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Anonymous
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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ]
#634651 - 05/17/02 04:37 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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dimitri211
Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 2,248
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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ]
#634758 - 05/17/02 06:16 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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I could not have said it better BT
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Jsonfield
newbie
Registered: 03/16/02
Posts: 27
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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: FMRC]
#634811 - 05/17/02 07:07 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's not an issue of is a vendor here for "Money" or not. Money is what makes a business run; maintain the ability to expand and become bigger and better( there for producing a better product). Customers that buy from vendors are just looking for the best product. So whether you've been doing this 30 years or just started money is the entire reason all these sites exist today.
My OPINION in the matter: Making vendors pay to play is a "drastic change" (you must be one who predicts the future to know where this will lead). I for one think it's a good ideal. I try to put myself in the vendors shoes and I agree with BOXTOP(why wouldn't a vendor not won't to run a banner add?) I think this would help stop the fly by night scams while hurting startup vendors( a big trade off) I think if a new vendor lookes Legitimate and plans to "RENT" ad space in the future they should have there Month or so on the Shroomery. (Dont deny potential ad revenue)
Mabe this should be deligated in a private matter between vendor&shroomery.
Or mabe it should just stay the same( if it isn't broken dont fix it).
(If you want to have a banner ad then of course that will cost but there is no stopping you from just having a sig)
As said by Captainmaxmushroom.
-Joe Shroom
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Thor
Anti-Theist OVERLORD
Registered: 08/12/98
Posts: 10,017
Loc: Iceland
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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ]
#634891 - 05/17/02 09:01 PM (22 years, 4 months ago) |
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First thing we do? The raffle was like 3 months ago.
Firstly this isn't a punishment, its about running the shroomery with fairness to all. If you bought a banner max and there were other vendors who didn't pay a cent who used this place like their own personal garage sale I'm sure you'd be the first to complain about that.
Its only reasonable, you make money off the selling of spores and if you can't give back to the shroomery then you can't use it as your own personal playground.
Fair is fair.
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GaNjAShRooM
===SPUN===
Registered: 02/22/02
Posts: 2,954
Loc: Southern United States
Last seen: 15 years, 2 months
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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ]
#634965 - 05/18/02 01:21 AM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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is it me or are .org pages supposed to be non-profit?
maybe not-maybe so-
but hey i thought the vendor forum was about asking vendors questions about their products,not spamming advertisment-
so now only *paying* vendors can post there
i would agree with max-after some of these vendors donta for the raffle,now they are getting closed out-hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
i really could give a shit less-i dont order spores-i have yet to see a syringe from a vendor(except box-his are definetly ok)that was of the quality mine is-
but hey if this is what thor and 3d have to do to get more sponsers,then so be it-im sure people who hang in vendors forum,will find another place to hang-sorry to hear that i wont be able to hang here anymore-
this will hurt the new Blu Fairy Supply shop-which carried alot of items newqbies cant seem to find-seem at one time this was about having fun,and just a little cultivation-now it seems thats its all about the $$-
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Anonymous
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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: Thor]
#634996 - 05/18/02 02:25 AM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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Obviously this is coming about because of the whining of the same vendor/trolls who have turned this place into the sideshow/garage sale it is today.
Funny thing, none of them complained when they were new and filling this place with spam, spam and nothing but spam.
Ryche had a banner here for years, I never seen him whining when mcman, boxtop and rolf started with thier constant spamming, price undercutting, weekly sales and giant sigs, etc.
I've never been one to play that way. My strategy has always been to answer peoples questions or post helpful information and leave a discreet sig at the bottom.
Even if I had a banner, I wouldn't be posting the spam these others do. I don't operate like a used car salesman.
If I didn't give a damn about mushrooms and only cared about money, like these other 'vendors', then I'd have banners, ads in High Times, billboards on the moon too!
Basically what you are saying is if I don't have a banner then I can't spam like the others.
Well I don't spam like the others anyways and will get a banner when and if *I* feel like it!
I think if a vendor wants any respect, you have to earn it. It's not something you can simply buy with an ad. Perhaps it should be mandatory that these vendors answer some questions in the cult forum, the mushroom hunting forum, the edibles forum.....like I have been doing for years.....if they can. Isn't that what this website is all about? Spreading information? Or is it just about money now? I see a loss of integrity here. People who were banned have bought there way back in. People with no mycological experience whatsoever are dictating how this place is being run because they paid a couple dollars for an ad.
But I do agree something should be done about these people who post nothing but ugly pure spam complete with prices, etc. It's very tasteless and classless and whether they bought there right to do it or not, it's still making this place look like an ugly bulletin board at the laundromat!
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Anonymous
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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: Thor]
#635024 - 05/18/02 03:13 AM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gee, it seems like only a couple weeks ago that people were complaining about not getting thier prizes from some of the vendors who have banners.
Do these people think that because they bought a banner they no longer are obligated to providing the prizes? I sent my prizes out weeks ago!
I guess what I really want to say is that whether someone has a banner or not, the constant stream of used car slaesman gimmicks make the shroomery look like a laundromat!
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GaNjAShRooM
===SPUN===
Registered: 02/22/02
Posts: 2,954
Loc: Southern United States
Last seen: 15 years, 2 months
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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ]
#635436 - 05/18/02 12:09 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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i agree 100% capt-
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DreaMaTrix
Shaman I am
Registered: 02/11/02
Posts: 3,125
Loc: Falling into place
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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ]
#635458 - 05/18/02 12:44 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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>the constant stream of used car slaesman gimmicks make the shroomery look like a laundromat!
I'd have to agree with this statement.
'Vendors' make money off something which is so sacred, something which is blown by the wind. All I see is vendors fighting with each other, try to out best each other, try to monopolise. I was under the impression this was a community, you don't know what a community is, look it up.
Entheogens are molecules of change, consciousness expanders, and when used in the correct time/space can bond people like nothing else on this Earth. This is a divine gift from the Goddess.
AND LOOK WHAT YOU ARE DOING WITH IT!!
I suppose its just a reflection of the the way the world is, a bit sad really.
This place is losing my respect, and probably many others.
Good luck
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TheShroomHermit
Divine Hermit of the Everything
Registered: 02/19/02
Posts: 7,575
Loc: border of Canada and Mexi...
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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: GaNjAShRooM]
#635559 - 05/18/02 03:01 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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>is it me or are .org pages supposed to be non-profit?
Yes, non-profit. This means they cannot have any money left over after at the end of the fical year. This means that one can receive 1 million dollars, investing it back into the non-profit organization, and it's still non-profit, becuase there is no left over money. if there is, they have to pay taxes on it and it isn't non-profit. Also, there are some rules that you have to put the money back into the organization, and not just buy weed and hookers.
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Thor
Anti-Theist OVERLORD
Registered: 08/12/98
Posts: 10,017
Loc: Iceland
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.org is like any other extension, if you host a site with .org it doesn't make it any different than say .com.
The Shroomery is not non profit, in order to qualify for that it would take some serious work and not to mention we wouldn't qualify either.
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windex
old hand
Registered: 06/27/01
Posts: 1,294
Last seen: 2 months, 30 days
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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: Thor]
#635624 - 05/18/02 03:47 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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the only major tld (top level domain) you need to "qualify" for is .edu
Then there are the several other tld's, that arent so major, you need to qualify for like .us must be a US occupant, .ca canadian and so on...
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ralphster44
collector
Registered: 01/03/01
Posts: 4,657
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 Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#635626 - 05/18/02 03:47 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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For your safety and security, we have a Secure Website.
Also for your security, we will not take your credit card number.
Your security and safety is of utmost importance to us.
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GaNjAShRooM
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Registered: 02/22/02
Posts: 2,954
Loc: Southern United States
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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ralphster44]
#635690 - 05/18/02 04:58 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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ralph i agree- 100%
i wish i could get a 3/4 inch pan print 
i have never seen one that big-lol-
i was once thinking about vending spores-LOL-not now
i would much rather help a strong reliable vendor out, than try and cut my friends throat
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Jsonfield
newbie
Registered: 03/16/02
Posts: 27
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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ralphster44]
#635858 - 05/18/02 08:42 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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This place can be HElpfull information, a bundle of answered questions,
a making money source and all that and a "bag of chips".
The shroomery is evolving and you must evolve too(even if you despise it).
(If you can't fightum joinum or out think um).
Even if the Shroomery were to shut down it would live on vicariously threw
someone else( This community is here to stay)(Theres more members now
than ever before).
Don't forget .gov <-- must be gov agency or related
-Joe Brown
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Jammer
Computers areMORE Addictive!
Registered: 11/04/00
Posts: 3,998
Loc: (God's Country) - USA
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Re: New Vendor Rules By Thor [Re: ralphster44]
#635901 - 05/18/02 10:39 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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>"This 6 dollar syringe shit is bullshit."
God Bless ya man... (I have the most respect for you sir!)
But are you aware that the syringe price war is now down to $4.00? See this.
(I agree... no profit here)
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Edited by Jammer (05/18/02 10:48 PM)
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