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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: WaylitJim]
    #6350743 - 12/09/06 11:59 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)








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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: auweia]
    #6350865 - 12/09/06 12:55 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)





unfortunately i ate them all yesterday, so i only have these last 2 pics. part of me wants to say that the four were just variants of the same species, but macroscopically, the fib seems to have a more striate cap margin, could be wrong


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: OregonBluesGil]
    #6426133 - 01/04/07 08:55 PM (17 years, 27 days ago)

or how about cyanefriscumboltescen?


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: auweia]
    #6430810 - 01/06/07 11:20 AM (17 years, 25 days ago)

pellicle schmellicle. dont most ps. have pellicles, or a viscid skin? i thought that was how a lot of them can be seperated from other species. a cyan is a big meaty tough mushroom. they hold their shape well and dnt crack or break easily when frsh like other mushies. i was almost positive that was bc of the skin(or pellicle). if it seperates, its just a looser pellicle?


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: auweia]
    #6437207 - 01/08/07 02:40 AM (17 years, 24 days ago)

interesting.. i ate 1 gram cyans and it was kinda weird. i felt like i wasnt reaching "the point" and also it felt like i was way over it at the same time. a little uneasy come up in a public place by myself. chilled for a bit and then went home and had a great reflection period which was pretty bomb. i ate 2 grams of friscosas/fibs/ whatever the fuck you wanna call them( i think they are unique to the bay area, of course there is evidence that they are the same species as fibrillosa, but at the same time theres equal or more evidence saying they are not). anyways ate 2 grams and tripped balls. there is no comparison to cubensis. also varied greatly from cyans. more visuals in the friscosas. more body with the cyans. i dont recognize them as the same mushroom anymore than i recognize what is being called fibrillosa in oregon as the same as what we have here. people are saying they are cyans, people are saying they are fibrillosa. they dont look like cyans and they dont share spore charecteristics with fibrillosa. the classifications and observations used to map a species of fungus(esp. spore charecteristics) cant be simply ignored to suit your argument.if you want to change the basis of scientific classification, thats another issue. people that live in or around the bay area have every right to be excited that first of all 1. psilocybes are present here. 2. there is a possible new species among us that apparently hasent been found and recorded anywhere else except the bay area. facts are facts.

Name:psilocybe Friscosa
Origins:san francisco, california
Sporeprint:purple/brown
cap:caramel turning gold/yellow with age,convex, 1"-4"
stipe:short 1"-2", bruising blue, hollow
edibility: hallucinagenic as fuck. known by all who eat them to not be taken lightly.



lacking detail, but i expect guzman to use that in his next book


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: auweia]
    #6438024 - 01/08/07 11:58 AM (17 years, 23 days ago)

yes i made it all up spores... the information is out there and if you were as informed as you make yoursef sound, maybe you wouldnt be so hellbent in proving us all wrong. it seems like the issue isnt one of the mushroom itself, but more of you being a lazy asshole who wants to prove people wrong for the hell of it. the only way in which people study and classify mushrooms is by comparing ans studying the differences between species. if the species here dont have a forked cystidia , then who the fuck are you to say they arent their own species. there are obvious differences and maybe if you came over here and found some, you would see the differences yourself. i guess you are more informed than the mssf. i dont need to explain shit that people have re explained to you over and over again. Nobody even said they were 100 percent sure of anything, but you sure sound like you are. i thought it would be obvious to anyone but an idiot that i made that friscosa description up, mainly to make you mad.unfortunately, it looks like you thought it was real. the argument at hand wasnt whether fibs grow here or not. wtf? i've found fibs in my hometown. we have 3 species that grow locally, cyanescens, fibrillosa, and the new "unclassified species". this is a forum for people to discuss the species at hand. sorry for calling you a lazy asshole, but i hate seeing people disrepecting other people in a fucking debate. grow up and grow some balls. read that to yourself 5 times slowly, maybe some alice in wonderland shit will occur.

i like this=> "keep making shit up and throwing it around as fact , have fun kids."
-sounds self-reflective

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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6439792 - 01/08/07 09:17 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

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pscyanescens said:
Burton_Rebel: said "maybe you wouldn't be so hellbent in proving us all wrong"

If you are all wrong i want to see it be proven wrong! This is a forum for what i believe to be for the pursuit of factual information. Some times facts need to be separated from fiction, in order to find the real truth. 

Opinions are welcomed as well but you should really state that it is your opinion before or after you post. The way you worded your descriptions sounds like you were reading a book. Did you write it? How the fuck did you come up with it!

When you refuse to post a resource i will just assume you are pulling this info from your ass and spreading it around the world as what is perceived by most to be facts. State fact or opinion before you post to avoid agreements like thees.





okay.... :bongload:


...dude, since im obviously a more confident mushroom hunter than you are, i know what im picking to be active mushies. i take it you walk around with a field guide and then take spore prints of every cap and then take pictures, but only then to post them on here and ask us what they are. im gonna assume thats how you are bc you responded in a way that makes me think you lack knowlege.im sorry, i am an honest guy. no the meager description was not from a book, im sorry that wasnt infered by the first post. or in the second. it is a description that i wrote in reference to what i think a "friscosa" looks like. And yes, what i say is my opinion. still confused? most people say and interact with others and their surroundings with their own minds which causes motor function and language. i take it your a robot or a program designed to recite facts about mushrooms. i know what a cyanescen is, how about you? i dont need a book to tell me what it is every time i find one  or post something in reference to it.  my resource is my mind. what do you want me to do call guzman and tell him to tell you what i think about the mushroom. im sure he'll get right on that. the whole forum is dedicated to this friscosa species and since there is barely any information known about, the few mushroomers that found it are discussing it. get over it. or find another forum to bother ppl with your unwanted skeptic opinions. dude, seriously reading the last part of this forum, i feel like there are just sad sad mushroomers out there. a few bad trips will do that to you im sure. just think positively and have a little confidence in yourself.

Oh and btw, i did cite the mssf as the source for the unique spores, just so you have no questions about it. i heard it directly from them, so if you doubt they dont know what they're talking about, i guess your just lost and confused...

fuck, talk about beating a dead horse with a fucking stick







psilocybe cyanescen




bibliography

Stamets, Paul (1993). Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms. Berkeley: Ten Speed Press. ISBN 1-58008-175-4.
Stamets, Paul; Chilton, J.S. (1983). Mushroom Cultivator, The. Olympia: Agarikon Press. ISBN 0-9610798-0-0.
Stamets, Paul (1996). Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World. Berkeley: Ten Speed Press. ISBN 0-9610798-0-0.
Krieglsteiner G. J. (1984): Studien zum Psilocybe cyanescens-Komplex in Europa. – Beitr. Kenntn. Pilze Mitteleur. 1: 61-94.
Borovièka J. (2005): The bluing Psilocybe species of the Czech Republic IV. The problem of Psilocybe cyanescens Wakef. Mykologický Sborník 82 (1): 1-21. ISSN 0374-9436.


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: spores]
    #6439933 - 01/08/07 09:54 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

i cant wait till you get the balls to express your love to pscyanescens. then maybe you can stop jacking off and get some real play. appreciate the grammer correction. thanks for not ONLY trying to prove me wrong with bullshit, but doing something that helps others learn. one useful thing you have provided to this forum.

spores said=> I can't believe I have to explain this to you.

also look back on your posts from page 13 & 14, no disrespect right?

you say you dont disrespect? you not only express your opinions and misinformed "facts", but you also attempt to place yourself above others who are merely expressing their opinions. i never attack someone if they are merely debating and being constructive. You speak of self-created drama. you're the one creating it. look at any other forum aside from this to which i have posted. im on here to talk about mushrooms.
and im not a robot, i'll tell you i dont give a fuck what peter says or thinks, i don t know the guy. The mssf has several expert mycologist, who might quite possibly maybe know more than your "allknowing" self. buy yourself a microscope douche


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: tahoe]
    #6440091 - 01/08/07 10:38 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

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I call it a fibbecause that is what the proffesors at the fair called it.

ps cyanofibrillosa var. san francisco





do we have two species of fibs?


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6440167 - 01/08/07 11:08 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

around the merry go round we go, and heres the rest of the post:
originally posted 9:17 1/08/07
.....im gonna assume thats how you are bc you responded in a way that makes me think you lack knowlege.im sorry, i am an honest guy. no the meager description was not from a book, im sorry that wasnt infered by the first post. or in the second. it is a description that i wrote in reference to what i think a "friscosa" looks like. And yes, what i say is my opinion. still confused? most people say and interact with others and their surroundings with their own minds which causes motor function and language. i take it your a robot or a program designed to recite facts about mushrooms. i know what a cyanescen is, how about you? i dont need a book to tell me what it is every time i find one or post something in reference to it. my resource is my mind. what do you want me to do call guzman and tell him to tell you what i think about the mushroom. im sure he'll get right on that. the whole forum is dedicated to this friscosa species and since there is barely any information known about, the few mushroomers that found it are discussing it. get over it. or find another forum to bother ppl with your unwanted skeptic opinions. dude, seriously reading the last part of this forum, i feel like there are just sad sad mushroomers out there. a few bad trips will do that to you im sure. just think positively and have a little confidence in yourself.

Oh and btw, i did cite the mssf as the source for the unique spores, just so you have no questions about it. i heard it directly from them, so if you doubt they dont know what they're talking about, i guess your just lost and confused...

fuck, talk about beating a dead horse with a fucking stick



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pscyanescens said:
My spore prints turn out positive 100% everytime. Does this mean i should stop printing? Then can i be a "more confident mushroom hunter" like burtonRebel?

-PS i never have a feild guide when i am hunting actives. Makes you look more guilty. Also lets everyone know your hunting. Not alwys the best idea.





i dont know man, use your best judgement...that is if you trust your own judgement....
why are you implying i dont take spore prints?nvm duzint matter
wouldnt know... never used a field guide..


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: burtonRebel]
    #6440174 - 01/08/07 11:11 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

you shouldnt be hunting mushrooms if you dont know what a amanita phalloid is. its responsible predisposed knowlege to not pick shit that your not familiar with.


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6440219 - 01/08/07 11:32 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

your so silly. do you really want to see pictures?


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: notapillow]
    #6440220 - 01/08/07 11:33 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

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notapillow said:
how do you guys type so much?




i have an excuse. im visiting my grandparents and dont have access to a tv.


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: burtonRebel]
    #6440248 - 01/08/07 11:51 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

here it comes..........











why what do we have here?

these couldnt possibly be....


whats this? some type of unknown mushroom perhaps?

wow, i think these are boletes:

enough for a single dose maybe?

they look so much alike, its unbearable.



in their little den:





what do you think, i wanna know.

those arent mushrooms.

no fucking way.


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6440272 - 01/08/07 11:59 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

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pscyanescens said:
burtonRebel:
SE Asians pick Volvariella volvacea, similar looking to the death cap, and grows in large amounts in their native countries.They believe they are familiar with it. It is more then stupidity that kills thees people, it is them being overly-confident. There are warnings every year in the paper in multiple languages, still every year we hear about someone eating a death cap.

The electricians who die, are usually the overly-confident type, same with chemists, and a number of professions for that matter. I would imagine it to be the same with death cap victims.





mushroom hunting is dangerous no matter what region you're in. mushrooms vary from region to region. this is all knowlege that should be learned befere ever eating a mushroom. SE asians who eat death caps are over confident because they are ignorant. ignorance and real confidence are far different. its hard to believe there are no poisonous mushrooms in the area of asia where the "meadow mushroom" grows.


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: burtonRebel]
    #6440275 - 01/09/07 12:00 AM (17 years, 23 days ago)

it was a mediocre day. this season sucks


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6440322 - 01/09/07 12:16 AM (17 years, 23 days ago)

no second flush at all. thats whack. i have never seen a bay area winter that wasn't wet, and i grew up here.. it's coming..


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6440407 - 01/09/07 12:51 AM (17 years, 23 days ago)

because some people call them fib var san francisco or just throw it one category.like you, i am awaiting further studies on this. i dont like refering to something by a name that isn't universal or "documented" for obvious reasons. i usually put friscosa in quotations or call them unknown psilocybe. its just my way of distinguishing it from cyanescens. they are similar and many people at the fungus fair believe "friscosas" to be a substrain cyanescens that are highly adaptable. there is a fib that grows in the bay area with long stems, and there is also a mushroom with huge caps and short, stubby stems("friscosa").they stay short and are similar in potency to cyans. i might even be convinced they are more potent than cyans, from person experience only though.
i've been finding too many chanterelles and boletes, and not enough of the blue guys.


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: burtonRebel]
    #6442518 - 01/09/07 05:51 PM (17 years, 22 days ago)

can this thread ever flourish again?


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: OregonBluesGil]
    #6443921 - 01/10/07 12:36 AM (17 years, 22 days ago)

yeah, i have a few cardboard projects going on, along with a some alder chips and my secret touch.


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