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Offlinecookeman
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Bunch of questions I couldn't ask while the server was down!!!
    #6305802 - 11/27/06 07:08 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

1. I picked up this coolmist from a thrift store a week or so ago.  Reli-on Cool mist The web page says it should go through 1 gallon of water per day in a small room. The one I have barely goes through a pint in a day on full blast. It moves a lot of air but the water level has only gone down about 2 inches in 3 days of straight usage. Is it busted? I don't have a hyrgometer yet, so i can't check it for sure, but something seems wrong.

2. I have 3 mono tub casings going all with WBS colonized with Texas, then spawned to about 10-12 lbs of poo each. One of the tubs got away from me (Monotub noob mistakes) and ended up pinning before I could apply the casing layer. It did pretty good anyway with a yield of a quarter pound dry, but I think I screwed that casing up big time when I tried to cold shock it by filling the tub just over the casing line and keeping some weight on the top to keep the casing from floating. I let that sit for approximately 16 hours before draining the water out. After putting the poly fil back in the bottom holes I let the tub sit for about 10 hours before I was forced to put all my stuff including the 3 tubs in my car for 5 days. the temps averaged about 50 degrees during the 5 days.
      Today I got to bring all my stuff back in and take a look at the progress. The tub that I dunked is yellow now, with no new growth whatsoever. What made it yellow? Is there any hope for it?

3. i'd like to get at least 2 new hygrometers. Can anyone give me a link to a quality hygrometer. I'd like to keep the price of each no higher than $50. However, if there'a a huge quality jump at the $60 mark I'd be willing to bite the bullet.

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Re: Bunch of questions I couldn't ask while the server was down!!! [Re: cookeman]
    #6305989 - 11/27/06 08:13 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

My guess is that the coolmist is junk and you should scrap it,A brand new Vick's V400 is only 40 bucks,I would "Bite the bullet" on that before I coughed up 50-60 bucks on a hygrometer.If you are a mono tub grower what are you in need of a cool mist for ?? I hope your moving up o a greenhouse :hehehe: .I cant tell you why your grow turned yellow but if you already got a quarter pound dry from it I wouldst be too depressed to say it had a good run and start looking forward to your next project.If your Texas are like mine a quarter pound should keep you busy for a bit.I love them :thumbup:

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Re: Bunch of questions I couldn't ask while the server was down!!! [Re: Blutjager]
    #6306076 - 11/27/06 08:37 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I'm running a few other casings that aren't monotubs too. That's really why I want the cool mist. I can't do the greenhouse for stealth reasons, but I've got some other stuff going on. I feel like the cool mist is good for a little air circulation where I have my monotubs set up too.

Trust me, I'm very happy with the QP I got. Especially because I didn't even get to put a casing layer on. Makes me wonder what I would've got with a casing layer. I should be able to sample my new babies this weekend. I can't wait!


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Re: Bunch of questions I couldn't ask while the server was down!!! [Re: cookeman]
    #6306117 - 11/27/06 08:54 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I always thought the casing layer was just to get a better (more even) pin set, I didn't know it actualy increased yealds.

What I've seen is that with a casing I get a buch of little thin skinny shrooms, and with out one I get fewer but alot bigger shrooms, with no real diff in yeild weight wise. But thats just me.

Oh and since I started noticing that I stopped casing, I also use mono tubs. Tomorrow Im gonna start innoculating 22 :smile: brf jars (1 pint) to start my next grow, I got some of those (4 syringes) African Transki something or other strain and 1 syringe of florida white.

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Re: Bunch of questions I couldn't ask while the server was down!!! [Re: Mr_Spliff]
    #6306260 - 11/27/06 09:49 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

generally speaking a more even pinset will also increase your yields. It's not like 25 compared to 50 pins is gonna yield 50% more weight. But it does factor in to total flush yield quite a bit.

Also cook, the yellow might just be some sub that got loose and into the water while dunking. A pic would help. But if it doesn't look like mold and doesn't smell you're probably OK.

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Re: Bunch of questions I couldn't ask while the server was down!!! [Re: Primate]
    #6306276 - 11/27/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

dude i was outta my mind while the server was down!

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Re: Bunch of questions I couldn't ask while the server was down!!! [Re: Mr_Spliff]
    #6306326 - 11/27/06 10:21 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Mr_Spliff said:
I always thought the casing layer was just to get a better (more even) pin set, I didn't know it actualy increased yealds.

What I've seen is that with a casing I get a buch of little thin skinny shrooms, and with out one I get fewer but alot bigger shrooms, with no real diff in yeild weight wise. But thats just me.

Oh and since I started noticing that I stopped casing, I also use mono tubs. Tomorrow Im gonna start innoculating 22 :smile: brf jars (1 pint) to start my next grow, I got some of those (4 syringes) African Transki something or other strain and 1 syringe of florida white.




Not exactly,you certainly will get a better pinset with a casing layer and yes uncased substrate will often yield fewer but larger mushrooms,but the purpose of a casing layer is not to get a better pinset,it is to provide moisture to your substrate so it can be there to be used for fruiting,being 90% water fruits are quite thirsty.Its the same as how dunking when the substrate needs the moisture the most after a flush increases yield,I have never had good luck with uncased substrate......O and keep us posted on those Transkies,I have always liked the looks of them but no one seems to know much about how they trip and I for one would like some feedback on them before I give them a go

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Re: Bunch of questions I couldn't ask while the server was down!!! [Re: Primate]
    #6306370 - 11/27/06 10:36 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

It doesn't smell, but the entire casing is yellow now. I wish I had a digi cam, hopefully for christmas cause I know pics would be a major help. I'm just gonna let it run for another week-two weeks. If nothing new happens by then I'll start new. I've got jars waiting to go anyway, but i'd rather learn what i can from this cause monotubs seem like a sweet idea if you can get it right.


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Re: Bunch of questions I couldn't ask while the server was down!!! [Re: cookeman]
    #6308091 - 11/28/06 03:55 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like your myc is pissing everywhere (dead cells). that would always happen to my jars when I would let them sit for too long with out puting them into a fruiting chamber. I dont know how to fix it tho.

And Blutjagger I just finish inoccing my jars I have a journal going which when Im done Ill realeas as a log. So yeah now its time for the waiting game... so Ill sit back and wait...life seems to be all about waiting doesnt it... waiting for the next word to read...waiting to see what Ill type next..waiting until I die...waiting until..............................................................................................................................

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Re: Bunch of questions I couldn't ask while the server was down!!! [Re: cookeman]
    #6308187 - 11/28/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

cookeman said:
I'm running a few other casings that aren't monotubs too. That's really why I want the cool mist. I can't do the greenhouse for stealth reasons, but I've got some other stuff going on. I feel like the cool mist is good for a little air circulation where I have my monotubs set up too.

Trust me, I'm very happy with the QP I got. Especially because I didn't even get to put a casing layer on. Makes me wonder what I would've got with a casing layer. I should be able to sample my new babies this weekend. I can't wait!




These are pretty small



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Re: Bunch of questions I couldn't ask while the server was down!!! [Re: cookeman]
    #6308191 - 11/28/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

cookeman said:
I'm running a few other casings that aren't monotubs too. That's really why I want the cool mist. I can't do the greenhouse for stealth reasons, but I've got some other stuff going on. I feel like the cool mist is good for a little air circulation where I have my monotubs set up too.

Trust me, I'm very happy with the QP I got. Especially because I didn't even get to put a casing layer on. Makes me wonder what I would've got with a casing layer. I should be able to sample my new babies this weekend. I can't wait!




These are pretty small



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Re: Bunch of questions I couldn't ask while the server was down!!! [Re: Mr_Spliff]
    #6308298 - 11/28/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I've got experience with myc piss in jars but never at the casing stage. That seems like it could be a possibility though. I don;t think there is a way to fix it. I've just never seen casings turn yellow like this


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Re: Bunch of questions I couldn't ask while the server was down!!! [Re: HippieChick]
    #6308314 - 11/28/06 04:56 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

think smaller. like.....10x10x10 room that I also have to live in. Very tight to fit everything lol


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Re: Bunch of questions I couldn't ask while the server was down!!! [Re: cookeman]
    #6308343 - 11/28/06 05:03 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, I have an old tub I need to do something with, its about 4 months old and still no yellow, so I dont know. The mycilium is still nice and snow white the only diff is that its really dry.

Which leads me to a question. Is there anything I can do with it? cuz for now Im waiting on my 22 jars, and I still have 2 more african transki and 1 florida white syringes left so I need to go get more jars ASAP, well if I could do something with that old tub for now it would be great.

Oh yeah I had only got one flush off it and then I forgot about it till last week and Im wondering if I could use it, what Im thinking, and I know its risky but Im thinkin that I could cut it into 4ths and then super spawn to 4 more tubs hoping at least 1 works what you guys think?

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Re: Bunch of questions I couldn't ask while the server was down!!! [Re: Mr_Spliff]
    #6308670 - 11/28/06 07:05 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

On a side note, question 2: You can get a good hygrometer/thermometer from wal-mart for like 20 bucks. Brand is Acu-Rite and it comes with a display and a remote sensor which you can place in your chamber.


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