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how pissed should I be?
    #6297189 - 11/18/06 03:21 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

the power company sent some guys up here to spray herbicide, in previous years
they sent people out to cut and trim trees to eliminate problems, the utility
gave no notice as to their intent, I never recieved a letter saying they planned to poison the soil on an organic farm...


what do you feel is just compensation considering that runoff is a big issue since
I have a pond and some of my irigation is fed by that pond, I sometimes eat fish
from the pond and my pond feeds the pond of one of my neighbors

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297191 - 11/18/06 03:24 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

well take it up with them and seek amends for what they did. of course, i dont see much of a problem except that they did not relay their intent. not alot of paople have organic gardens.(no offense, of course)


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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297197 - 11/18/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I would be pretty fucking pissed, definitely write/call your local ag ext. office and power company. There might be some city officials you could get in touch with as well.


You don't happen to need a farmhand do you? I have some (little) experience with gardening/farming, but I'm willing to learn anything if I could find someone willing to teach me.


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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: nobhdy]
    #6297200 - 11/18/06 03:29 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

contact the EPA man, even though you need to leave access for power companies to come and do maintenance work and such, that does not give them the right to do whatever the fuck they want your private property.

My friend owns a house, he had several old trees behind his fence on what was still his property.  A real estate giant decided it would be a good idea to build houses for rent right behind his place.  They also didn't like his trees so they decided to cut them down, without his consent.  He woke up one morning to the sound of one of his trees falling.  A few phone calls to our local government, his lawyer, and some environemental agencies led him to a 5,000$ check for irrepreable damages to HIS property.

If i were you id be doing the same thing.  If that doesnt work plop a lawn chair out there, bring a few 12 guage shotguns, and sit there when they come back. :smile:


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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: coda]
    #6297225 - 11/18/06 03:35 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I'd be right pissed. Sue them for polluting your land. And ya if that doesn't work a couple shotgun rounds into the air will make them think twice before comming back to your house.


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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: nobhdy]
    #6297274 - 11/18/06 03:50 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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nobhdy said:
well take it up with them and seek amends for what they did. of course, i dont see much of a problem except that they did not relay their intent. not alot of paople have organic gardens.(no offense, of course)





should it matter if it's an organic farm or not, people have the right to know
when someone is trespassing and spraying dangerous chemicals on their land,
these guys gave me a list of the names and as of yet, I've located only 2 on the net

crenite
sufacto
garlon 4
nufilm-IR

I have the label from the garlon 4 jug, the warnings dont mesh with the MSDS sheet

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297278 - 11/18/06 03:53 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

If you were Middle Eastern I'd say cut off their heads or suicide bomb them. If you were in the Old West I'd say you should shoot them.

But, given that we live in modern America....call a lawyer.

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297290 - 11/18/06 03:56 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

lawsuit

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297299 - 11/18/06 03:57 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

i'd be one pissed off organic corn growin' hillbilly mother fucker....

percentage of the value of the "infected" Land? Just as if they were making a settlement to build a roadway thought there.

Even if only a "casually' organic farm,i'd be very pissed off.


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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: coda]
    #6297300 - 11/18/06 03:57 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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coda said:
contact the EPA man, even though you need to leave access for power companies to come and do maintenance work and such, that does not give them the right to do whatever the fuck they want your private property.






so far I've done a great deal of the work in maintaining the right of ways on
this property, previously it was done with mechanical means by the power
companies contractors, now they're using chemicals, the jackass came up to 'ask
permission' while his guys were already spraying trees, he took me down to showm
me the only things that were alledegd to have been sprayed and I showed him how
easy it was to uproot the very trees (saplings less than 1 foot high) they were
spraying


I'm looking into photovoltaics monday, I already had plans of building a couple
wind generators for shits and giggles, looks like it's time to step up my
schedule and just pull myself from the grid... after a lawsuit

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #6297313 - 11/18/06 04:02 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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If you were in the Old West I'd say you should shoot them.





I'm already known for that sort of shit around here

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297318 - 11/18/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

so your that guy i keep hearing about just up the way...



should have known  :smirk:


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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: CaptainH13]
    #6297319 - 11/18/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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percentage of the value of the "infected" Land?




unknown, they showed me a couple of small areas they sprayed, lets also consider runoff and a lack of notice of intent

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297330 - 11/18/06 04:06 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

seriosuly, if you're going off the grid, let me come work for you

food, shelter, and a little bit of cash for savings is all I require


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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: CaptainH13]
    #6297337 - 11/18/06 04:07 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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so your that guy i keep hearing about just up the way...
should have known  :smirk:





the cops have been out here more than once, they've also given warnings to people
that stopped and asked directions to my place... of course when I have things like
noise complaints (only once) they stopped at the bottom of my driveway and waited
while the dispatcher called the house... they're nice folks

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297339 - 11/18/06 04:08 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Is there a shortage of women where you live?


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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: demiu5]
    #6297341 - 11/18/06 04:08 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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seriosuly, if you're going off the grid, let me come work for you
food, shelter, and a little bit of cash for savings is all I require





I am but it's going to be at least 2 years before I'm ready

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: OldSpice]
    #6297351 - 11/18/06 04:11 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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Is there a shortage of women where you live?





god no... we have quite a few and a lot of them are pretty hott




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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297355 - 11/18/06 04:13 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

no shit?!....Gwinnett cops,right?


They've never been anything but trouble for me when up around that area.


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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: CaptainH13]
    #6297365 - 11/18/06 04:17 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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no shit?!....Gwinnett cops,right?





nope, I moved from gwinnett a few years ago, bought my retirement home, forgot to
retire... I'm in a small town now, gwinnett and lawrencevill ciops have always
been pretty cool with me, never had a drug charge in 28 years of living there, and
been caught with up to a half pound, only had a single joint and a pipe 'confiscated'

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297377 - 11/18/06 04:20 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Damn the first ones about as fine as they come Pris


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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297382 - 11/18/06 04:22 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

spent a lot of time in lawrenceville never had a problem with anyone,granted this wasn't the more built up area.

I've only had limited time around in N.GA though,working on about 5 years now i believe.The 5-0 here are fucking terrible,i've been pulled over countless times for being too low,too loud,and any other bullshit you can attribute to old rusty cars,and I've been search a number of times during those incidents.

Love this area though,more so than the many places I've lived in TN.


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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: OldSpice]
    #6297383 - 11/18/06 04:22 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

any girl that likes john deere cant be all bad

even though new holland is better


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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297389 - 11/18/06 04:23 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

waaaaay too much makeup, on both of them


they your daughters?


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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: demiu5]
    #6297395 - 11/18/06 04:25 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

thats what you call a Georgia peach....they all were way too much makeup...


it's ripe with southern tail all over the metro outlining areas.


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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: CaptainH13]
    #6297396 - 11/18/06 04:25 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Love this area though,more so than the many places I've lived in TN.





Law'ville (you know the reason it's called that) is noraly thought of as the
worst, I never thought it tht bad, stopped and hassled a bunch but never really
got any shit, at least that I didnt deserve... except once when the cop found a
gun on me while i was out walking at 2am, just got my CCW and the cop didnt care
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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: demiu5]
    #6297401 - 11/18/06 04:27 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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demius said:
they your daughters?




no, but I think I'll shoot you just on principal for that one :smirk:


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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297407 - 11/18/06 04:28 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

then why do you have multiple pictures of this girl?

or am I not picking up on the facetiousness


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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: demiu5]
    #6297414 - 11/18/06 04:32 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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then why do you have multiple pictures of this girl?




same reason I have multiple pictures of a lot of girls...

I like taking pictures..





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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297419 - 11/18/06 04:35 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :heart: :heart: :heart:


Thats a georgia peach right there, fuck them yankee transplants, gimme a down to earth country girl anyday.

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #6297422 - 11/18/06 04:38 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)


yeah... they're called peaches because of the fuzz on their butts

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297497 - 11/18/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

That fuzz gets my heart beating baby

southern nay is the only way :tongue:


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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297527 - 11/18/06 05:19 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Contact the Department of Agriculture.

I wouldn't be pissed until I found out the extent of the problems they might have caused.

http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_1OB?edeployment_action=changenav&navid=ASK_EXPERT

It might be better to get someone on the phone.

Why did they use four different herbicides?

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297535 - 11/18/06 05:21 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Oh shit, it was the power company.

Out of court settlement.

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #6297543 - 11/18/06 05:23 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Call up you fish and game/DNR in the state that you live in.


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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Brainiac]
    #6297549 - 11/18/06 05:28 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

No, it's the USDA that deals with that shit.

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #6297566 - 11/18/06 05:38 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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I wouldn't be pissed until I found out the extent of the problems they might have caused.




cant use any land following the powerlines or any land where it may run off too
for 3 years minimum, unfortunately, the power lines follow a ridge so it's
potential can be devistating for me financialy.

Quote:

Why did they use four different herbicides?





one I know of was a film that allows the stuff to stay put, whether it's on the ground or on the trees

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #6297567 - 11/18/06 05:38 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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TheHateCamel said:
Oh shit, it was the power company.
Out of court settlement.




I think I'm getting more pissed by the minute

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297570 - 11/18/06 05:41 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Could they remove and replace the soil and have it approved as organic again?

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297571 - 11/18/06 05:41 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

you should kill a bitch...

...start with the ex?


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    #6297585 - 11/18/06 05:46 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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Could they remove and replace the soil and have it approved as organic again?





they can unless it rains between now and then but there were a coupe of fruit
trees under the powerlines, I topped them last year and the guy swears he didnt
spray them, of course the two mexicans that had the sprayers wouldnt answer the
question and he wasnt with them while they were spraying

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297600 - 11/18/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I'd be pissed, man.

Really pissed.


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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #6297657 - 11/18/06 06:14 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

More than likely the utility company has an easement that gives them the right to maintain the area. Organic farming is a concept that is way out front of the evolutionary curve, so don't expect a lot of legal sympathy.

How pissed should you be?
Well, I'd probably be stark raving mad. Then I would come around to realizing that if I had better maintained the area- to which nobody would have objected- the utility company probably would not have resorted to chemical warfare. So, in essence, I would be pissed at my self.


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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #6297672 - 11/18/06 06:19 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

yah i would be pissed. I would "try" to contact newspapers and make a big deal about how the power company or w/e doesn't give a shit about mother nature...not only is your feilds contaminated so is the shit they sprayed and anything that comes in contact with it.....

aka bugs birds wildlife....there's no way to tell how many things died and will get sick and die because of it....hell id try to sue them for causing bird flu....leading to human deaths....not really anyway they can prove it didn't....and how can they prove their inocent when they havn't spent a dime researching these chemicals......

oh and don't forget about wind....wind spread them chemicals everywhere dude.

think about pollen...basicly the same size as a fine mist...pollen travels a long fuckin way....or think spores....same thing.

id go for a class action lawsuit if you wanna fuck em....but if your worried more about yourself just sue.....class act is if you want shit to change thow.

but this is what i don't get...why does it matter if they had your permission or not....it should still be illegal to spray a fuckin toxic chemical that kills....people think they just spray somethin and all it does is what the fuckin back of the bottle says its for....kills plants. well it does alot more than that.


Lastly, one important thing for you to consider running organic....it sounds like your kinda close to the road, cars will pollute your land my friend, already has....but im sure you still fit the "organic" label but its not truely organic.

them cars put out alot of shit....watch the snow in the winter time its black as shit....you can;t eat grapes along roads because they are contaiminated.


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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #6297679 - 11/18/06 06:22 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Start a lawsuit and get money to fund going off the grid.

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: SCleROTiUM_LICK]
    #6297713 - 11/18/06 06:35 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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More than likely the utility company has an easement that gives them the right to maintain the area. Organic farming is a concept that is way out front of the evolutionary curve, so don't expect a lot of legal sympathy.





except as mentiond at least twice, I do maintain the property including the area
under the lines, the trees they claim they sprayed are a good 15 years from ever
interfering with the powerlines, I uprooted one to show the fucker an alternate
method of dealing with them, it required little effort

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Then I would come around to realizing that if I had better maintained
the area- to which nobody would have objected- the utility company probably
would not have resorted to chemical warfare.




except the area is maintained as is the remaining acreage and the utility
companies sent them out to canvas an entire area, not just my place, there was
no notice given in order for me to object to the herbicide sprays being used, in
the past they'd used mechanical means with which to deal with it and left the
tree trimmings just laying around

now that you mention it as warfare, I guess that's how I should start to view it

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297727 - 11/18/06 06:39 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
now that you mention it as warfare, I guess that's how I should start to view it




If you're a sapling.

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6297728 - 11/18/06 06:40 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

just to fuck with them you should plant a bunch of plants/trees that will piss em off. like thorn vines, poisen ivy, ect. expecially put that shit on them poles they like to climb


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Edited by makaveli8x8 (11/18/06 06:40 PM)

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Re: how pissed should I be? [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #6297733 - 11/18/06 06:43 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
now that you mention it as warfare, I guess that's how I should start to view it




If you're a sapling.




in comparison to the huge utility conglomerate... I am

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