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    #6280307 - 11/13/06 10:25 PM (15 years, 28 days ago)

This is my staightfowardmushroomgrowingcanbeeasy grow log.
and a Cheers to my favorite Teks at the Shroomery!!
Thanks

Started with 10 jars of Malt/Dext LC filled to 600ml. 
1/4teaspoon Light Malt extract +1-Tbsp Dextrose per Quart of Water.
PC 20 minutes.


These were inoculated with an isolated culture, BRAZ4.  This one was chosen as it was the only to actually make it to fruiting on my last RYE grow. 

Each Jar of LC can knock up 3 bags, @ 140cc/bag.

I prepared 32 WronguyBags, over a painstaking 50+ Hours of shit shredding and PCings with my two faithful droids.

each holds 3 bags.  3PO is kinda noisy, but he get the job done.

Even though these bags have the filter patch on them, i still fit the top with a Polyneck Filter  These alllow you to make spawnbags without an Impulse sealer, which are clumsy and annoying IMO. 
Also, there is no cutting or taping of the bag, so its easy to open and pour out the delicious substrate.  and in a pinch, you can easily reuse bags this way. 

They colonized in 14 days, but had to let them go an extra week due to the madness of Halloween and wild women. 


The best part, each bag fits nicely into its own 6Qt Sterilte shoebox, just below the lip,
at a substrate depth of 4inches


A NOTE FROM CARLITO:
Okay, here is what I do:

1. Crumble the bags so you have pieces about the size of a small rock, say no bigger than 1/2-3/4 inch. This will allow you the freedom to put the contents into virtually any container and mold the substrate into that size and shape.

2. Pack the substrate into the container tightly and level.

3. Lay a casing layer on top immediately if you're going to use one. If not simply put the substrate into your tub/tray of choice as is.

4. Place the tub/tray back into incubation for 3-5 days so the substrate can knit itself back together and/or the substrate can begin penetrating the casing layer. I probably wouldn't wait more than 7 days and try to keep your casing layer no deeper than 1/2".

5. Fruit your substrate.

6. Harvest your mushrooms.

7. Dunk your substrate for 24 hours with standing water or 3 hours with running water.

8. Drain the tub and leave it alone for flush #2.

9. Repeat as often as the substrate will fruit.

That's pretty much it in a nutshell. I have found that you do not need to dunk the bags for the initial flush, as there is more than enough moisture available for large, healthy fruits. I have also found that breaking the substrate into smaller pieces makes it more manageable for molding into your fruiting container. Leaving larger chunks make it a lot more difficult to manipulate and only shaves a day at most to the re-knitting time.




I Lined each of these with a sheet of Heavy Duty Aluminum Foil, so that it is not wrapping around the lip, but loose in the tub.  This allows the Casing to bond to it and it will pull the foil in with it as it shrinks through the flushes. 
It removes the need to fill in the gaps over and over with casing mix to prevent side pinning/moiture loss.

and no.  i dont believe there to be any problem with getting aluminum in my brainstem by using in in my tubs.  It is an complete light blocker that can be molded to any shape. 

Then i cased with 50/50 Tek at about 1/4 - 1/3 in.  depth.

The filled trays were covered with a piece of foil and set to incubate for the next 4-6 day.  the time spent colonizing the casing layer varied among the trays.  i suspect this was a temperature issue, because the late blommers were the ones sitting on the bottom shelf, closer to the cold concrete. 

They were all birthed into this here Greenhouse between 11-7 & 11-10.  Im glad this happened, because if they all went off at once, i would be flucked on drying... :crazy:



4 tier greenhouse.  60x38x18in.  Roughly.  got it at a yard sale.
Light 12/12, on a timer.
Space heater at 75 degrees.
i run one vicks coolmist 24/7, fit with a POOL HOSE running into the GH, and attached/sealed with SHIPPING TAPE. (much better than duct tape in this hobby).  Pool hose is flexible and cheap, a million times easier to work with than PVC...  and theres nothing better than wet hose.


this points down through the gap left on each tier.  I can fit 7 trays on each shelf with room to keep them off the walls and still have a large gap under the hose, mind the drip.


I open it about once a day and mist with my MIsty Mate! a great tool.

The first half of the trays are Knotting furiously...





This is the first to start pinning, its one of the 3 test runs of BRAZ2!  Its giving BRAZ4 a run for its money. 

:cool:

The pin pics are kinda fuzzy, i know, but i dont have a macro feature on my camera.  but dont worry, they wont be needing a macro lens very soon.... :smile:

This is the best primodia/pinset ive had in all my grows, everything is working out perfectly!!  Thanks again shroomerians!


11/15:

BRAZ2 still in the Lead.
<img src="/forums/thumbs/06-46/363449050-thumb_gh_-_pinny.jpg"http://files.shroomery.org/files/06-46/363449055-gh_-_pinny2.jpg]BRAZ4 is showing some fat little pins!!<a href="https://files.shroomery.org/files/06-46/363449055-gh_-_pinny2.jpg" target="_blank">

so many....
                                             


And how could i forget HippieChick Queen of the Greenhouse Scene!  I rigged up an ultrasonic to my coolmist line in honor of her floppy fungus.



the anticipation is overwhelming, i cant feel my legs... this is going to be epic :crazy:

11/16

The BRAZ4 trays are taking off!!


The BRAZ2 have slowed down and lost the lead.  its amazing how different the two sbstrains look, they were both isolated from the same syringe. 




11/17

neat.

kinda neat.

but poor BRAZ2 isnt down with the program.  what is happeningggggg to you BRAZ2?


I hope the whole tray didnt abort retard style.  it was way ahead of the others, but its is just barely changed from 3 days ago.  then again, there is a reason why i chose BRAZ4 over the other strains...

big black jesus.



11/18


one day later...


check the perfect pinset on the closer tray!


with the other tiers right behind...


the first harvest.  straight into the incinerator.



perfect pinsets = too many tiny shrooms.  but it does feel good to finally to it right. 

tonight, i dunk the harvested casings. 

other tiers looking good...




Wet Weight of First Flush: 9520grams
then i shot them into space.




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Re: GreenHouse Grow: PINS! stay tuned for Porno! XXX [Re: Omnicracker]
    #6280339 - 11/13/06 10:34 PM (15 years, 28 days ago)

:jawdrop: Awesome job. That's a lot of spawn bags. do you have any contamination issues?


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Re: GreenHouse Grow: PINS! stay tuned for Porno! XXX [Re: cookeman]
    #6280472 - 11/13/06 11:05 PM (15 years, 28 days ago)

How did you rig those filters up?


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Re: GreenHouse Grow: PINS! stay tuned for Porno! XXX [Re: cookeman]
    #6280870 - 11/14/06 01:14 AM (15 years, 28 days ago)

Quote:

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:jawdrop: Awesome job. That's a lot of spawn bags. do you have any contamination issues?




i lost one bag to Lipstick Mold, which was a first so it was a welcome sacrifice.  two of the trays caught cobweb with incubating the casing layer.  i treated one with H2O2, and the other i scraped the casing off of, and sprayed with a H2O2 mix. 
*EDIT: both survived the treatment and were birthed into the GH 11/14.


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Re: GreenHouse Grow: PINS! stay tuned for Porno! XXX [Re: Omnicracker]
    #6281549 - 11/14/06 09:15 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

nice... but i think it's time to get a better camera. :wink:


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Re: GreenHouse Grow: SO many PINS!!xxxBRAZ4xxx (updated) [Re: Omnicracker]
    #6286769 - 11/15/06 07:13 PM (15 years, 26 days ago)

I put up some crisper pictures of the pinny fury!!

Also, are any other Greenhouse/Martha users dealing with condensation building up on the hoses/pipes inside your FC? its causing drips onto one of my casings, not fatal, but id like to fix it. i tried putting warm water in the coolmist, but no dice.


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Re: GreenHouse Grow: SO many PINS!!xxxBRAZ4xxx (updated) [Re: Omnicracker]
    #6286792 - 11/15/06 07:17 PM (15 years, 26 days ago)

That's pretty sweet Omni. Nice work indeed.  :thumbup:


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Re: GreenHouse Grow: SO many PINS!!xxxBRAZ4xxx (updated) [Re: Wronguy]
    #6286834 - 11/15/06 07:27 PM (15 years, 26 days ago)

Thanks Carl.
i was hoping you would stop by and give my your endorsement. maybe you'd like to chip in a name for your magic bags before 'Wronguybags' catches on like pokemon.


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Re: GreenHouse Grow: SO many PINS!!xxxBRAZ4xxx (updated) [Re: Omnicracker] * 1
    #6288955 - 11/16/06 11:41 AM (15 years, 25 days ago)

I am glad things worked out for you, but I honestly can't take full credit. This recipe formulation, while I actually formulated it, is a collaboration of myself, Agar, and Blue Helix. The other parties gave me some ideas on the ingredients, but I put it together. I guess I can take credit, since I put the it all together and calculated the appropriate moisture content for that recipe.

Most teks are efforts of many people and trials to perfect the outcome. We all have a hand in them through our own trials that help perfect future results. I like the name Wronguy bags, but with the space.  :wink:


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Re: GreenHouse Grow: SO many PINS!!xxxBRAZ4xxx (updated) [Re: Wronguy] * 1
    #6288991 - 11/16/06 11:49 AM (15 years, 25 days ago)

i have not had a problem with condensation drips.

My greenhouse has the hoses angled up and in. all drips back into the coolmist. I do not have any hoses inside my FC, and it only comes in one inlet. Works great!



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Re: GreenHouse Grow: SO many PINS!!xxxBRAZ4xxx (updated) [Re: Omnicracker]
    #6289181 - 11/16/06 12:35 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

The problem I noticed when I rigged my Cool Mist and Ultrasonic like that is that the CM has more air flow than the US, so when the US turns on, the fog it produces mainly gets pushed back into itself, whereas if you rig the CM into the US chamber directly and then out of the chamber again and into your greenhouse, the CM it will force the US fog out when it turns on rather than force it back in. It's all a matter or which produces more pressure.


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Re: GreenHouse Grow: SO many PINS!!xxxBRAZ4xxx (updated) [Re: Oatman2000]
    #6289190 - 11/16/06 12:37 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

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i have not had a problem with condensation drips.

My greenhouse has the hoses angled up and in. all drips back into the coolmist. I do not have any hoses inside my FC, and it only comes in one inlet. Works great!



Good Luck to your pins...




Holy jeez Oatman what strain are those in that last pic ??


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Re: GreenHouse Grow: SO many PINS!!xxxBRAZ4xxx (updated) [Re: Blutjager]
    #6289222 - 11/16/06 12:48 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

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i have not had a problem with condensation drips.

My greenhouse has the hoses angled up and in. all drips back into the coolmist. I do not have any hoses inside my FC, and it only comes in one inlet. Works great!



Good Luck to your pins...




Holy jeez Oatman what strain are those in that last pic ??




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Re: GreenHouse Grow: SO many PINS!!xxxBRAZ4xxx (updated) [Re: Oatman2000]
    #6289236 - 11/16/06 12:52 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

A ha,gotta love the Pr0n,Any idea why mine might look like this
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/6288267/an/0/page/0
I have never seen mushrooms fully mature that are so small


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Re: GreenHouse Grow: SO many PINS!!xxxBRAZ4xxx (updated) [Re: Blutjager]
    #6289249 - 11/16/06 12:55 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

Ugly... "No offense" they get enough FAE?


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    #6289374 - 11/16/06 01:23 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

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Ugly... "No offense" they get enough FAE?




Yes,Well I mean they are in the same greenhouse as everything else that I have had tremendous success,and to top it off I even have been taking them out and fanning the like once or twice a day,They just are so small,I took the four fattest ones (Which aren't really that fat to began with) and I cloned them so I guess I will see how that pans out


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Re: GreenHouse Grow: SO many PINS!!xxxBRAZ4xxx (updated) [Re: Oatman2000]
    #6289393 - 11/16/06 01:26 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

heh heh trully epic level dude, Nice job


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Re: GreenHouse Grow: SO many PINS!!xxxBRAZ4xxx (updated) [Re: thongster]
    #6290114 - 11/16/06 04:07 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

updizzle.

i have to run the coolmist line inside the GH becase my real estate is a lot tighter than yours Oatman. there is literally only that one hole on every tier for air to move through, i wanted to just pump it straigh down that....

oh god.... i could just take the hose out of the GH and run it along the roof into a hole cut in the top. im stupid.
stupid like a fox!


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Re: GreenHouse Grow: SO many PINS!!xxxBRAZ4xxx (updated) [Re: Omnicracker]
    #6290150 - 11/16/06 04:19 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

great job omni!


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Re: GreenHouse Grow: SO many PINS!!xxxBRAZ4xxx (updated) [Re: VampireSlayer]
    #6290335 - 11/16/06 05:21 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

Hc has hers driping into a qt jar...


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