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Trouble over Mushrooms
    #627507 - 05/12/02 08:32 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I dont see why people would want to put you in jail for doing mushrooms or for that fact any drugs. I see it as the meanest thing in the world, especially when thinking of that while on Mushrooms.

But then again, isn't society trying to punish you for your actions than how you are inside. And then again they try to bust you for having them, theres no action there?


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Re: Trouble over Mushrooms [Re: ]
    #630281 - 05/14/02 11:37 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I think that you, like most of us, observe the reactionary policies of society in regards to mushrooms, as totally unnecessary however; society observes the extreme end to which drug use can occur and feels compelled to act. Mushrooms alone may not produce these negitive effects but unfortunately there are those with which mushrooms are only one element of intoxificaton. We, as a group, need to implore our own, to remain vigilant against excess and bad behavior. There have been many times in my life, that my friends kept me from doing stupid things. In contrast, I have also seen people, supposed friends, watch people do stupid things for laughs. Reasoning has two main focuses: to give ourselves control and ultimately responsibility; and to mold the world to our will. If we do not take responsibility for our actions or for what the world has become, then we have missed the point of mushrooms altogether.


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Re: Trouble over Mushrooms [Re: GRTUD]
    #630565 - 05/14/02 03:43 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Trouble over Mushrooms [Re: GRTUD]
    #630649 - 05/14/02 05:03 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

...society observes the extreme end to which drug use can occur and feels compelled to act...

Sounds noble except for the fact that almost every drug law has been about controlling a certain group and not about any altruistic values (whether misdirected or not).

A death penalty for mushroom ingestion was enacted by the Spansih Conquistadors, vis a vis, the Roman Catholic church, in regards to the Aztecs in the 1500s when it was found the natives would not convert.

Similar acts were passed against peyote.

The ban on opium (1700s?) had to do initially with trade wars between England and China.

The ban on the smoking of opium (late 1800s) in the US was a further way of suppressing Chinese immigrants even though Laudanum (which contained opiate derivatives) was a popular cure-all among European-Americans.

The Harrison Act (early 1900s) was propsed as a way to fight integration and to suppress black Americans, who were the predominant marijuana users at the time.

Nixon took the drug laws (1960s and 70s) to new draconian heights to shut down the hippie counter-culture in response to the protests against Viet Nam.

Not one of these was concerned about possible harm to the individual from drug use.


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Re: Trouble over Mushrooms [Re: Swami]
    #630794 - 05/14/02 07:18 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

No doubt that I agree with you 100% but rather I would like to keep our secret by not attracting attention much less bad attention.


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Re: Trouble over Mushrooms [Re: Swami]
    #630958 - 05/14/02 10:07 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

nixon was very paranoid of commies and minorities so furthing the WOD was a nice way to get those negros and chinks he liked so much. i don't understand how a man that was that fucked in the head got into power, and worse he's obviously not the last to form some paranoid fantasy about "drugs" (i put it in quotes because this word is too broadly used).

whenever i trip, i always wonder how the bliss and super creative thought process of the mushroom could be illegal. they cause changes of perception sometimes leading to "crazy" behavior or "bad trips". thats all its about to the people in the DEA and law enforcement. they see the bad effects of a drug and they form form a miopic viewpoint. there isn't exactly a government agency that openly studies chemicals for concious expansion or "having safe fun". so the governement decides to fight those small problems with so much money and effort and lives.

what the hell kind of person originally thought they had the natural right to control what people can do in their own realms? at first it was the strongest that would control the heard/pack/group. this leadership was gained through fear of the leader through brute fighting, and also the need to be with others or easier survival through group efforts (thus sacraficing certain freedoms to be in the group). today our system is the same except we like to lie to ourselves: people say, "WE have the power, we are a demogracy" (ha! plutocracy is more like it, but its still deciding who is controling you). it all comes down to that we are willing to sacrafice a certain amount of freedom because we need what society has to offer. i've seen people reply "you like driving on roads, the government makes those roads!, so don't be so anti-government." some people love what society has to offer. its so convienient to have such a variety of stuff, and to be able to pick out a new car that will spend the majority of its $250 per month lease with with you fighting rushhour traffic getting to and from work so you can afford to work. i'm sure back in the day black slaves got to pick out what sickel they got to use in the field.



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Re: Trouble over Mushrooms [Re: Eightball]
    #630971 - 05/14/02 10:25 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

i'm sure back in the day black slaves got to pick out what sickel they got to use in the field.

"Give em' a few choices and we'll let em' pretend that they are free."
Too bad some of us are cursed(?) with the ability to see through the smoke and mirrors.


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Re: Trouble over Mushrooms [Re: Sclorch]
    #631037 - 05/15/02 12:01 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Have any of you seen the new 2003 model John Deere sickles? They are so bad with the new carbon-fiber shaft and diamond-chip cutting blade that never needs sharpening. Saving up to get me one to impress the ladies...


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Re: Trouble over Mushrooms [Re: Swami]
    #631047 - 05/15/02 12:12 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

ha ha ha ha


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Re: Trouble over Mushrooms [Re: Swami]
    #631183 - 05/15/02 05:17 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

ROFL! that was great


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Re: Trouble over Mushrooms [Re: Swami]
    #631261 - 05/15/02 06:56 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, that John Deere model is nice. I'd want to upgrade the sound system though... the factory system distorts at high volume.


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