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Failure rate of homemade spore syringes??
    #6265547 - 11/09/06 01:32 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I just made and used my first spore syringe, throughout the day yesterday.. What Im wondering is if a lot of people fail they're first time trying to do this... I've seen a lot of posts about people's first LCs not working out so Im wondering if the same thing happens with syringes.. I followed the tek I chose pretty carefully and I don't think I screwed anything up, but I won't be able to tell for 3-5 days so I just thought I'd ask....

Also I accidentally PCed my jars for 4 hours! The moisture content inside of them didn't look too wet or dry so I'm not too worried, and the posts I've read on the topic says it shouldn't be a problem.... But I'd like some input on that too.... bottom line.... it won't ever be happening again.

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Re: Failure rate of homemade spore syringes?? [Re: headyherbs]
    #6265745 - 11/09/06 02:39 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

my first time went well and i used a print from the fsr when it was still ran by ralphster...

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Re: Failure rate of homemade spore syringes?? [Re: strangladesh]
    #6265794 - 11/09/06 02:55 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

it all depends on the spore print source. ive made many dirty needles/LCs from prints from the marketplace freeprint thread


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Re: Failure rate of homemade spore syringes?? [Re: campinman]
    #6265839 - 11/09/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I got some prints from the cfsr and didnt have luck with them. The ones I have printed I have had luck with. If you use agar and you wont have to worry about it.


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Re: Failure rate of homemade spore syringes?? [Re: headyherbs]
    #6265959 - 11/09/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

If the print IS CLEAN, if your sanitation is good, if you follow sterile procedures & make the syringes right, following a well established method.

Odds are you will end up with clean viable spore syringes. :laugh:

Trouble is MOST first timer prints, were taken & made in FAR LESS than OPTIMAL conditions. :eek:

Starting with a contaminated print, contaminates all syringes you make. :mad2: :mad2: :mad2:

Sadly, first timers often print caps under far less than optimal conditions, then trade them. :rolleyes:

Link below is an easy way to do it clean. :thumbup:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/6261365/an/0/page/0


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Re: Failure rate of homemade spore syringes?? [Re: headyherbs]
    #6266118 - 11/09/06 04:34 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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headyherbs said:
What Im wondering is if a lot of people fail they're first time trying to do this...




My first print, and later my first home-made syringe, came out perfect.  In fact, I've never made a contaminated syringe in my life... *knocks on wood*... a little common sense, good planning, proper technique, and attention to detail, goes extremely far in this hobby. :thumbup:

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Re: Failure rate of homemade spore syringes?? [Re: headyherbs]
    #6266134 - 11/09/06 04:42 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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headyherbs said:
Im wondering is if a lot of people fail they're first time trying to do this...




I've never had one of mine contaminate, I may just be lucky

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Re: Failure rate of homemade spore syringes?? [Re: creamcorn]
    #6266137 - 11/09/06 04:42 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I've been doing this for a little more than a year now. I purchased my first 4 syringes from a vendor, but since then I have made my own. As of now I have 100% success rate. As long as you follow the tek you shouldn't have a problem.

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Re: Failure rate of homemade spore syringes?? [Re: headyherbs]
    #6266313 - 11/09/06 05:32 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I've only made one syringe, and it went okay.
Print from FSRE and did it in a glove box.

I think Agar is right, we should all be sure our print making techniques are good before submitting our prints.

I'm reluctant to submit to the EUR and CAN SRs until I've tested/grown off my own prints, am solid on my tek, and am sure I'm not putting contams out there for others...



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Re: Failure rate of homemade spore syringes?? [Re: ethnoeste]
    #6266434 - 11/09/06 06:05 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

First few prints & syringes I made went SOUTH.

After that, tightened up the ship, procedures, sanitation, was more careful with cap removal method, used a glove box, etc.

Things got progressively better, the more careful I was, as I developed my techniques, and improved each & every step.

But, rather than trade, or donate ANY prints, I had doubt about.

I trash canned them.

Good fruiting conditions REQUIRES a lot of FAE.

Once a veil breaks, that same FAE can carry in all sorts of contaminates right to gills. Same for people. We are a roving jumbo jet distributor of contaminates. So, there are numerous ways, prints end up DIRTY.

So, the reality is (IMHO), you must have all your ducks in a row (and a damed tight row, at that), in order to make consistently clean prints.


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Re: Failure rate of homemade spore syringes?? [Re: agar]
    #6266501 - 11/09/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

cool... thanks for the input everybody... I'll keep my fingers crossed! :grin:

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Re: Failure rate of homemade spore syringes?? [Re: headyherbs]
    #6266837 - 11/09/06 07:53 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I have been trading for prints and I'm kinda scared of my syringe making skills and afraid of contamination

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Re: Failure rate of homemade spore syringes?? [Re: Blutjager]
    #6266903 - 11/09/06 08:19 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I'm gonna make syringes with my next harvest so I can nail down my method. I read your new syringe tek, agar, and I think I'll use that. looks like the hardest one to fuck up. say you picked a closed cap mushroom and broke the veil in the glovebox with a sterile needle for printing. would that work?


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Re: Failure rate of homemade spore syringes?? [Re: ToTheExtreme, LOL]
    #6266941 - 11/09/06 08:28 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I have made plenty of prints and I always make them in still air and I try being clean as possible.I still always warn anyone I have sent them to that I don't have all that much experience in doing it and they should make a few test jars and than do a g2g to check it out because I would hate for someone to waste a ton of spawn if I messed up along the way

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