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Mr G shows his true colours... A must read.
    #626212 - 05/10/02 09:31 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Well I was offline for a few days and I just checked my email, and unfortunately I had to read 3 very disturbing emails from Mr G. I feel it is my duty to inform everyone of what he said because I am looking at legal action again this man for his very frightening words.

Just before you read I want to make one thing crystal clear. He accuses me of sending his prints to workman, this is totally false, I have every print he sent me in the original packaging and I have NEVER sent any of his prints to anyone.

Here is the 3 emails I have recieved from him a couple of days ago.

Email #1
In reply to:

Message: 19 / 30
Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 04:40:13 -0400
From: "Mr.G" <mastergrower@fmfarms.com>
To: thor@shroomery.org
Subject: Listen to me!

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Thor did you or did you not give workman a print of the Martinensis
and is it this penis envy strain? I told you not to do that. It isn't a
cube and contains some chemicals that are deadly posion. You had better
tell me the truth because I am the only person who has a antidote to the
toxin. You are going to see people start dying in 30 days plus or minus
5, including yourself if you ate it. Did you eat it????? Well if you
want to save your miserable little lives you had better e-mail me quick.
If you wait more the 7 days after ingestion you organs are already
starting to fail. Do any of these "partakers" think they might have the
flu or a mild case of food poisoning? If so, they are dead men and it is
a horrible way to go. It makes the "Destroying Angel" look like a
friend. I can save your life, fuck them, they are dead men This has
been confirmed by Dr. Gartz and two scientists at Sandoz and Lilly. Ask
them, would you like their phone numbers? or a shot on the hip that will
save your life? You all are so stupid you have killed yourselves. I feel
so sorry for you and i am so sorry i gave you the print. i don't know
how many at the shroomery have eaten it but they are all dead, Dear god
what have I done, please forgive me........M





Email #2
In reply to:

"Message: 18 / 30
Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 06:17:00 -0400
From: "Mr.G" <mastergrower@fmfarms.com>
To: 3dshroom@shroomery.org, thor@shroomery.org
Subject: You dirty fucking thieves

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I gave you a print of the new species and you gave it to workman! You
are on my list and so is thor. my list is going to get real short quick
because it isn't a cube and it is Posion.
Any one who ate it is going to
be dead within 30-40 days. i have a antidote we developed over-seas. i
am not giving it to you. if you ate them you are dead .
Tell workman,
thor, hawk, bye LOLOLOLOOLL You stupid fuckers you ARE finally getting
what you deserve! Thank God, what comes around truly goes around.

Bye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! have fun when you screaming and bleeding out of all
your body cavities, remember me laughing at you!
Thanks guys, you
accomplished what i wanted to do on your own.
I didn't do a fucking
thing and you are all dead.....................True justice, never
thought i was going to outlive you all! ;-)"





Email #3

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"Message: 16 / 30
Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 11:32:07 -0400
From: "Mr.G" <mastergrower@fmfarms.com>
To: 3D@shroomery.org, thor@shroomery.org
Subject: Listen to me

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You stupid dick sucking faggot. I am coming after you and you just got
fair warning. I am kicking you r fucking ass. You better warn Thor
Workman and Hawk. You better fucking run. I am being decent by giving
you fair warning
. Let it never be said you were not given a chance.
Yes
i am crazy and you are going to find out how much! Take it to the
fucking bank fag. Feel big? Want to put your big mouth where your
asshole is? Meet me somewhere or just wait and see what happens to you.
Try me asshole dick smoker. What are you going to do? Take your little
fucking ball and go home? Better make sure if you guys have a wives and
kids that they look both ways before crossing the street
.
Understand ass
wipe???? Fuck you. I can kick your ass any day, and I am going to so
you have been warned. All of you! Your little butt fuck buddies are
fucked as well!"




I highlighted most of the unbelievable threats, but some of them truly stand out. I will be contacting my lawyer on Monday, all information I have on this man will be forwared to him and I would appreciate if anyone has specific information in regards to Mr G.

I want to make it very clear that this is a threat on my and others lives. I will go after this man with every legal means I can, so if you have any information on Mr G that could be helpfull please contact me at thor@shroomery.org

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #626218 - 05/10/02 09:37 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Wow, unbelievable. Very bizarre behavior to say the least.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #626235 - 05/10/02 10:01 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I would talk to a lawer ASP. I also would keep the prints for an expert to look at. In all honestly, I have never heard off such a deadly shroom that could ever be mistaken for the two strains that they were suposed to be. Frankly I think that whoever wrote those emails is a person that is extremely disfuntional and seems obsesed with certain folks.... (hell, might be a pissed off cop)

You have ever reason to be concerned... However keep your head up high and dont panic. Most likely this is someone doing this for attention.

MR G. has gotten a lot of attention with his hot headed ego here recently. He seems smart, but he seems to ofend many here very quickly.

Hang in there man.


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #626238 - 05/10/02 10:16 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I saw this coming....actually

Mr. G seems like a very medicated man.
I have heard that he has been in several accidents and supposably is on alot of meds....and he is supposably crippled up....so I wouldn't worry about him kickin your ass....the fucker can hardly walk from what I hear.
and from viewing his posts.....he is a very disturbed individual.
and now after reading these types of threatening emails....makes him out to be a complete fucking lunatic.

Don't let him get to you Thor....he isn't worth the sweat off your balls.

Workman and MJ both warned me about Mr. G awhile back....and said not get involved with him in anyway....looks like that was good advice!!!!

I said it awhile back.....and I'll say it again.....Mr. G you have ruined your reputation and you had a second chance....people accepted you back with open arms and you fucked that up in less than a month.....go away and let people remember the old Mr. G the guy that brought several strains to the community.... RIP

Just look at some his posts in the past month or so....pathetic!
You be the judge!


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Roadkill]
    #626285 - 05/10/02 11:23 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Mr. G is a looney. although i'd like to see the bastard pay a little, you should just ignore him. he's a ridiculous fool who doesn't even know what he's talking about. it is too bad he fucked up his rep so quick.. i used to wonder about the mysterious Mr. G from foggy mountain when i read about the print he provided ryche, but now i know there's nothin' to wonder about... he's just some crazed lunatic


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #626304 - 05/10/02 11:41 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

He's the only one with the antidote? LOL... Thor I d laugh this one off. Obviously MrG has done some good in the past here for the community but he's obviously not all here with us. Most of his ramblings I laughed at or got a kick out of. He has obviously finally went insane if it is in fact he who sent you those emails


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Roadkill]
    #626323 - 05/10/02 11:59 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Mr. G is heavily medicated all the time-
i would say this is a dilusion from opiates-

not an uncommon thing-


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: GaNjAShRooM]
    #626355 - 05/11/02 01:40 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I also recieve email #2 and he has never sent me anything (not that he hasn't tried). I have turned down all his offer for free spores and his offer for me to be a "test grower" for him. I started laughing so hard when I first saw it.

I also replied and told him to lay off the meds since I had actually been nice to him and listened to his problems in the past. This guy has gone off the deep end.


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #626370 - 05/11/02 02:05 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

wow ,what a fucked up individual.
Psycho asshole...

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #626371 - 05/11/02 02:06 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Thor..

I communicate with Mr.G on a semi-regular basis and I have to say that is NOT Mr.G.
Maybe someone has played a joke on you..Who knows..

Seriously..people..This is not Mr.G

Dont let Thor Fool you...

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: ]
    #626389 - 05/11/02 02:57 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

> Dont let Thor Fool you...

Are you trying to imply Thor made up the emails to discredit Mr. G?

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: ]
    #626422 - 05/11/02 04:13 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

....Dont let Thor Fool you...

What is this for info?? Are you telling me not to trust my host?

Why are you doing this?

Think of love before you act!!!!!!!!!!

To Thor: I wish you and your family all the support & love right now!!!!!


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #626434 - 05/11/02 04:34 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Mr. G aka poyotl flipped out on me when i called him his puppet. Poyotl is definantly sounding like his 3 emails.

Time to get out the straight jacket.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: ]
    #626435 - 05/11/02 04:38 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

In reply to:

I communicate with Mr.G on a semi-regular basis and I have to say that is NOT Mr.G.
Maybe someone has played a joke on you..Who knows..

Seriously..people..This is not Mr.G

Dont let Thor Fool you...



i too communicate, quite frequently with mr g, and this has floored me. this doesnt sound like any email ive gotten from him. and he has never said anything bad about thor. now at the same time, i see no reasen for thor to fabricate a story like this, if he dont want G here, he could just ban him. i dont know what to say, he has always been cool to talk with., intelligent, ya know, at times i actually looked forward to his responces to my letters.
but dr. bella, if you too communicate with him, and talk about anything personal ( outside of shrooms) you know that the opiates he takes are for pain ( duh, i know). but he has other drugs of choice, that he prefers to PARTY on.... this may be the results of mixing 2 completey different drugs, when he wrote those letters, it is possible he was giving his body such a ride on the high/lows of mixing the drugs, and it may have made him delusional... but it still dont make it right.


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #626440 - 05/11/02 04:49 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #626449 - 05/11/02 05:11 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Crazy old bastard. I don't blame you for taking legal action, even if you don't end up going through with it, it'll hopefully send him a message that these kind of things aren't welcome at the shroomery, and I for one, hope he realizes it.

Personally I'd be damned if I didn't take action against someone who threatened my family. Thats just me though. ;D

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #626450 - 05/11/02 05:13 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #626533 - 05/11/02 06:32 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Thats bad, real bad.
I'm assuming this earned him a banning.
It should thats uncalled for and stupid.
Sad to hear it.
Hope you get it all taken care of.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Anno]
    #626551 - 05/11/02 06:44 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

>. Poyotl is definantly sounding like his 3 emails.
Now I think youre on to something...

All I was saying is as confusing as he may be at times, Mr.G is a good man at heart..
Those emails come off as being written by a young immature child which Mr.G may also seem to be at times,but certainly is not.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: ]
    #626580 - 05/11/02 07:17 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I'de just like to point out my $0.02 here.

I have never communicated with Mr.G and only rarely with Thor. I am not going to take any sides on this matter. I believe that Thor, infact, did receive those e-mails and that he is not trying to trick the community as Dr. Bella pointed out. I think what happened is that those e-mails, infact, didn't come from Mr.G and thats what Dr.Bella was trying to get at.

Whoever wrote those e-mails isn't the smartest tool in the shed. You dont threaten to kick somebodys ass on the internet because you never know how big they are and you never know how many and what kind of friends you are. I really doubt that the Penis Envy strain isn't a cube and has deadly toxins in it because it has been around for a while and i'm sure people have eaten it before and survived after 30+ days.


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Anonymous]
    #626610 - 05/11/02 07:44 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I have been communicating on a regular basis with Mr G for about 3 1/2 months, he approached me first before he returned to the OMC.

He was sometimes sending me 5-10 emails a day, and I have had a lot of correspondance with him. If you don't believe it was him, read the first email he sent me, then look at the 2 following only hours later... The first email is definately him, and I have little doubt that the following two are also him.

Mr G is on a lot of meds and I think that maybe to blame for this nasty attack.

Myco-tek, he doesn't live in Switzerland, thats only a drop ship, he lives in Florida.

I guess some of you won't want to believe this, but I'm am 100% sure of it being from him. I have probably recieved about 50-70 emails from this man in the last 3+ months.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Anonymous]
    #626626 - 05/11/02 08:15 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Well Myco this behavior is beyond words, its threatening the lives of me and my loved ones.

What scares me is that I have gotten to know him pretty well this last few months, he has confided in me in numerous ICQ chats and countless emails. He even sends emails via encryption that I have a key to view.

I feel its important people know what kind of person he is, because any customer that reads those emails would probably think twice about dealing with him.

Mr G has as you know made an enemy out of mjshroomer with a similar exchange of crazy emails, although mj didn't get threats like this!

I think if someone threatened your life and that of your family you would also be leaning towards taking this seriously! I mean he is unstable and therefore who knows what he's capable of.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #626630 - 05/11/02 08:20 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

In other words... "Down with Clowns!"

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Anonymous]
    #626633 - 05/11/02 08:24 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

>Mine was relating to the possiblity that ANY IDIOT can send
>you an email in Mr.G's name and you would have NO WAY
>of proving otherwise

Is this so?
I don?t consider you an idiot, so I?m sure you must be able to send me an email from Mr. G?s account( mastergrower@fmfarms.com)...

Let?s see how you will accomplish this, if it?s so easy as you say.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #626682 - 05/11/02 09:19 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I think the e-mail contains information Mr.G and Thor would be the only 2 to know about unless the "imposter" was reading both e-mails and replying. Who else would know about the spore prints etc...


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Anno]
    #626684 - 05/11/02 09:20 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Anno...

...it's easy...however...if you acutally look @ the header you will see how and from where it was faked.


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Anno]
    #626703 - 05/11/02 09:41 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Do you know how to recognize a "spoofed" email.





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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: phrozendata]
    #626714 - 05/11/02 09:59 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

>...it's easy..

Yes? Can you tell me how?

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: dimitri211]
    #626725 - 05/11/02 10:13 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Well I just was writing this note and it disappeared off the screen.

That is deifnately Mr. G.

He does come here under different names but the writing and tone of his emails are the same.

He is from Florida and he is also Mr Master Grower and a few others. Even in his rambleings he talks to himself as inthe first person, second person and even the fourth person.

Dr. Gartz says he never gave a phone number Mr. G and thought that he was a fruitcake.

His Mushroom P. martinensis is not a Psilocybe mushroom. A;though he posted some psilocybe cubensis images along with his alledged martinenesis mushrooms.

Gartz wants nothing to do with him.

And a poisonous mushroom with unknown toxins in it. Give me a break. If they are unknown then how would he know about thm. Saying Gartz and Sandoz has antidotes then you wouldn't need to get one from him.

And if he is on medication that makes him act like tthis (Pain, more like prozac meds or thorazine) then maybe it is a lack of medication. You do not threaten people period as Thor says. If someone makes suck threats whether real or not it is up to the individual being threatened to protect those who he loves.

On or off is no call for such behavior. maybe Mr. G needs to fly on an airplane and see what his mouth brings him.

I have no sympathy for this person whatsoever. Hell he even threatened me, Hawk and Workman on his website but now he removed the threats.

As for many defenders of this person, sock puppets who have no profiles no return emails so no one can confront him because he hears only what he wants to here.

This is also very reminiscent of Sean1234 and also 21 pounds of shrooms ramblings, again fromthe state of Florida.

I deel sorry for all of you caught up in protexting this crazy persons shit. Becasue thats exactly what he is sputing is shit. He makes it up as he goes along.

AND IF YOU BAN HIM HE COMES BACK WITH A DIFFERENT NAME OR MAYBE EVEN HAS ONE OR TWO PEOPLE SEND NASTY LETTE4S BBUT THEY ALL SOUND TO BE HIM AND HIS STUPID RAMBLINGS.

sHIT HIT THE UPPERCASE BUTTON.
TIRED OF THIS SHIT,

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: fastbut]
    #626733 - 05/11/02 10:24 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I just contacted Dr.Jochen Gartz at the University of Leipzig and he is sending me Mr. G's letter which G sent to him with the sproeprint of his alledged P. martinensis. I am sure this has his fingerprints on it. I am sure Thor's letter with his sporeprint has Mr. G's fingerprints on it also. Maybe so does Workman.s mailings from him.

I will gladly give them to the FBI for examination. Maybe everyone here should know who the real MR. G (Mastergrower) and who ever else he pretends to be.

He made threats to Thor and his family. That is not a joke or something you joke about. And the FBI has the resource to find out exactly who mailed those mailings. Shit they caught Daniel Pearls murderers fromthe internet by tracing the mail. So he publically threatened Thor and his wife and kisds and everyone else he mentioned inis mail.

That is terroristic threatening and fortunately we now have laws against that very thing.

Mr. G needs to beware his time is short.

He made his bed so let him sleep in it.

I am tired of this bs from this character from the snake pit.

Let Mr. G beware that This is a stupid thing he has done and it will be his downfall.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: fastbut]
    #626738 - 05/11/02 10:29 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Hi Pyhrozendata,

you made the following quote:

"...it's easy...however...if you acutally look @ the header you will see how and from where it was faked."
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I am not sure if you are aware that Mr. G is Mastergrower. Thats his puppet company except he always tals about master grower as if he were someone else and then talks in the first person becasue he is also master grower. He forgets and then relives his statements as truisms.

Sorry if you did not notice this before.

But enough. He is not even wrth a response anymore.

AS I said, I will forward that letter to Thor when i get it so Thor can add it to his evidence.


here is his name as both fromhis website at http://fmrarms.com

"We are the best, and carry only originals. Thank you for your business and support!

F.M. Farms Owners, and Mr.G Master Grower."

fastbut

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: fastbut]
    #626752 - 05/11/02 10:42 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Here are the headers:

Return-Path: <mastergrower@fmfarms.com>
Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail026.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.66])
by shroomery.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id g495EaQA006525;
Thu, 9 May 2002 05:14:40 GMT
Received: from fmfarms.com ([216.76.208.75]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net
(InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP
id <20020509101632.HBMV9552.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@fmfarms.com>;
Thu, 9 May 2002 06:16:32 -0400
Message-ID: <3CDA4C71.AC9A7234@fmfarms.com>
Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 06:17:00 -0400
From: "Mr.G" <mastergrower@fmfarms.com>
Reply-To: mastergrower@fmfarms.com
Organization: Foggu Mountain Farms
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 (Macintosh; U; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: 3dshroom@shroomery.org, thor@shroomery.org
Subject: You dirty fucking thieves
X-Priority: 1 (Highest)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353"
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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: fastbut]
    #626865 - 05/11/02 12:38 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Oh good!! Now we have mushroom john in on this...yeah, I'll go out on a limb and point to you. I'll let you folks in on another piece of pertinent info. In MY correspondence with G he has complained on more than one occasion in the last couple months about hackers. Could this explain important information that only he and thor would know about? Possible.

For Anno: I would be the first to admit that i don't know how to commandeer somebody elses email address...I've never cared to and have much better things to do...If I wanted to, could I? my guess is I could...what is your point with MTech? And I agree with MTech that it is inappropriate to post personal emails on public forums without consent...was it Mr. G? I don't know. But everyone sure was quick to jump on the bandwagon, weren't they.

MJ, one last thing. Many of your rantings and incorrect uses of the English language remind me of Mr G's posts. Are you two lovers lovers ? LOL

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: johnwsmoke]
    #626927 - 05/11/02 01:55 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

you guys are funny

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: ]
    #627065 - 05/11/02 06:10 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I tend to agree. I would call a lawer. That way, at least one knows all of there rights in these matters. After all, this is a rather complicated situation.


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: johnwsmoke]
    #627082 - 05/11/02 06:54 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Wow, well you can believe what you want, I have been corresponding with this man frequently for 3 months.

I know his writing style, I know how he types, I know he acts when he gets bothered...

look at his FIRST email to me, it is definately from him if you read it and know his emails... The following two are just him getting madder

Take the word of an unstable man who was run off the OMC a while back and now is back and is ending up with the same problem he had before, pissing off lots of people.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #627094 - 05/11/02 07:11 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I've been talking with Mr.G for about a month now. The first time I talked to him he treated me as if I were his favorite customer!! I placed an order with him for 1 syringe. I received 5 items in that package and was only asked to pay for 1. I don't know about you guys but I haven't had any other vendors do such a thing for me. It seems as if Mr.G is not in it for the money as are many others Do buisness with him if you like or hate him if you like, but either way he's my favorite vendor and a nice guy. I'm not sure if he really did send those e-mails but something had to have stirred him up to do so! I'd say don't come to conclusions till you here from the man himself.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: ]
    #627097 - 05/11/02 07:18 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Have you ever thought that maybe the reason that he sent you five items instead of the one you paid for could be explained by strong med(s) usage?


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Jammer]
    #627102 - 05/11/02 07:25 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah and maybe just maybe the man treats customers who PAY him money differently than he would me, whom he suspected of giving out his spores to Workman.

I just can't believe people choose to believe him over me, I guess some people just think there is a conspiracy in all things.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Jammer]
    #627105 - 05/11/02 07:35 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I didn't think the reason he sent 5 was because of meds, I believe and still believe it was for the love of mushrooms. also he sent me the spores before i sent money. Not many vendors send there products first, he also told me to only pay for them if I was satisfied, which I was.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: ]
    #627109 - 05/11/02 07:40 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

He was also very generous with me, he sent me all these spores.. We had a good relationship until he sent me those 3 emails, upto that point I had nothing against the guy.

Well I guess once he replies to my email you'll all know the truth, I can bet he will not deny that he sent those.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: ]
    #627111 - 05/11/02 07:41 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not saying i believe him over you. I'm just stating my facts about my experience with him. I'm taking no side on this fight. I'm not involved however I do think it's wrong to make threats if there's no reason like you say. But I'm not gonna get into that cause I don't know all the details of your guys' situation. I just know that he's been good to work with.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: ]
    #627113 - 05/11/02 07:43 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

From a business perspective:

Is this how it works? He loses money on every order, but he makes up for it in volume.

I understand that the man may love mushrooms, hell so do I. But what is the purpose in charging ANY $$ if your going to lose anyway. Why bother charging anything at all and instead just freely give the stuff away?

There is a contest/Give Away forum here for just such a purpose.


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Jammer]
    #627116 - 05/11/02 07:44 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

He still needs to cover shipping costs + labor etc. He has people that ship orders for him and they must be paid.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Jammer]
    #627122 - 05/11/02 07:51 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

He told me he's more concerned about getting his spores out there before he passes away. He's more concerned about his life being cut short because of all his health problems, and thats why he said he chose to return.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #627180 - 05/11/02 08:52 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

>"he's more concerned about getting his spores out there before he passes away"


I'm so confused now. If this is the case why is he threating to kill everyone via posinious 'shrooms 'cuz he thinks that his spores are being given to Workman?

Man, this is one fucked up situation.


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #627275 - 05/11/02 11:57 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: World Spirit]
    #627279 - 05/11/02 11:59 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I allways have had the most respect for The Beat-Offs.

lol...

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #627291 - 05/12/02 12:14 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Just found this on alt.drugs.mushrooms:

Did it ever occur to you Thor?

That whenever I e-mail you I sign and encrypt it. If it wasn't encrypted it isn't me. What the hell is this you are talking about? I thought
you were my friend. I know you have been keeping that secret and I am not going to tell anyone. Why on earth would you think this was me? I
wouldn't put such things in writing and believe you know that. I certainly would have encrypted and signed. Was it?............what did I ever
do to you? I was even telling people i had faith you could straighten out the shroomery and this is what you do to me? Ouch!

Well if you are posting "fake" correspondence please post this as well. I have not e-mailed you since you never would respond to my request
for advertising. You said you need the money but would take the advertising dollars? I am not suprised to see such things from john Allen but
thought better of you.

Do you really think I would want to claim a shitty mutant like the "penis envy" which is nothing more then a PF shroom that is badly mutated?
It produces no spores because the strain is dying. I would be ashamed of such a thing rather then proud or sell it. I also would never say the
new mushroom was anything but excellent. Why would I put down my own discovery? I don't think it makes sense, but I guess it shows how much
self confidence you have as well as faith in mankind. Thanks a lot friend. Thought I had enough troubles with enemies. I really appreciate you
flying off the handle before checking with me. Someone is laughing like hell at you and me now, thanks! Mr.G



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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #627309 - 05/12/02 12:34 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

This is not for me to get involved in, when comparing the message source:

Alt.mushrooms.net:
From: "Mr.G"
Reply-To: mastergrower@fmfarms.com
Organization: Foggy Mountain Farms International
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 (Macintosh; U; PPC)

3D's post earlier in this thread:
Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 06:17:00 -0400
From: "Mr.G"
Reply-To: mastergrower@fmfarms.com
Organization: Foggu Mountain Farms
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 (Macintosh; U; PPC)

Notice the organization difference!

As I said, not for me to get involved, but there seems to be a difference, from 3d's post 'Foggu Mountain Farms', I think if this was from FMFarms, they would know how to spell it!! Not saying anything here, sticking up for anyone.... just noticing subtle differences.

Good luck sorting this mess out.




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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: ]
    #627344 - 05/12/02 02:02 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

actually-i dont think thiese emails are from Mr. G-

if anyone else stays in contact like i do with mr G-they would know that he is not around right now-and couldnt have sent them

me and Dr. Bella were just talking of this a few nights ago-wondering where mr G was-

he is not around-i do know this-i believe he hjas fallen ill again-

or maybe he ate one of those nastys,and couldnt get to the antidote in time
but i doubt it-those emails actually sounded like a chile or adollescent had written them-not the mjr g i know-

mr g is a good guy-he sent me well over $200.00 worth of exotic strains and said pay me 25.00- later when you get it-

i have also read those disturbing posts left by Peytol(sp?)



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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #627410 - 05/12/02 04:49 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Far be it from me to get invovled in this or tell you how to run your site...but I will give you my opinion. I think you should have kept it off the message board and never posted the emails or even let on about it. Whether this fellow sent you these emails or not I believe you should have kept it private even if pursuing legal action. I've ran several message boards and websites in the past. Posting emails like this don't do much but incite things. Yes...email accounts CAN be stolen or used..happens all the time. Not to say this is such a case, but there is always a slim chance with such things...so it's always best to keep it to yourself and figure it out yourself rather than getting an entire message board involved IMHO. Even if you know for sure that the fellow sent it...why bother posting it all over a message board. It's best to keep such things private. Bringing it out in the public does not accomplish anything and can actually compound things sometimes.
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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: GaNjAShRooM]
    #627413 - 05/12/02 04:51 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

my advice, as i am not sure either way. is go ahead, get the man involved ( cant believe i would ever say that). but they got the resources to find out WHO sent it, or at least if it is mr_G, dont discuss this with anyone, in any form, untill you have 100% proof. either way, him or not, the new terrorism laws should get the culprit a mighty fine sentence. but besides you two ( thor and 3d) discussing this between yourselves, i would not mention it to anyone else, or you may be giving the one that is doing it ( if its not G) all the info they need to NOT get busted.


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: ChromeCrow]
    #627441 - 05/12/02 05:27 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Seriously Thor..

What if you take this to the man..What if you find out this was not written by Mr.G.

I would take this sort of post as slander towards his site.This type of post can cause harm to ones business.
I know I wouldnt appreciate the slander.

Be smart next time,Keep your private matters private until you get the facts.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #627537 - 05/12/02 07:14 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Mr. G lives in Switzerland or someplace. If that's the case there isn't a whole lot your lawyer can do. I mean, it's not as if they're going to extradite him (it's hard enough doing that even for actual murder suspects).

Whether it was Mr. G or not who sent the threats it IS pretty clear that the guy is unstable. Just look at his website (www.fmfarms.com). No links or anything, just one long block of text in which he rambles on, meanders from one topic to another, slanders other vendors, and rounds the whole thing off by telling the pretty ladies not to smile flirtatiously or wiggle in just the right way because that might distract him from his world-famous efforts on behalf of mycology. What a loon!

Anyway, as if any more proof were needed, it is bullshit like this that proves that ingesting mushrooms in and of itself does jack shit to make one a wiser, more spiritual, or better person in any way. There are a lot of very cool people on this board but the sheer volume of juvenile crap that gets thrown around has made me lose forever my naive ideas about the "entheogenic" powers of shrooms. They're still good for shits and giggles, though.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #627568 - 05/12/02 07:57 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Thor, doesn't Mr.G send you encrypted e-mails?? If he does then you wouldn't be able to post it here. Does it have his signature?

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: ]
    #627575 - 05/12/02 08:01 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I am posting this by the request of Mr.G. He's currently unable to contact thor so he asked that I post this. I received this e-mail today,Thor I believe it's directed towards you.

That whenever I e-mail you I sign and encrypt it. If it wasn't encrypted it
isn't me. What the hell
is this you are talking about? I thought
you were my friend. I know you have been keeping that secret and I am not going
to tell anyone. Why
on earth would you think this was me? I
wouldn't put such things in writing and believe you know that. I certainly would
have encrypted and
signed. Was it?............what did I ever
do to you? I was even telling people i had faith you could straighten out the
shroomery and this is
what you do to me? Ouch!

Well if you are posting "fake" correspondence please post this as well. I have
not e-mailed you
since you never would respond to my request
for advertising. You said you need the money but would take the advertising
dollars? I am not
suprised to see such things from john Allen but
thought better of you.

Do you really think I would want to claim a shitty mutant like the "penis envy"
which is nothing
more then a PF shroom that is badly mutated?
It produces no spores because the strain is dying. I would be ashamed of such a
thing rather then
proud or sell it. I also would never say the
new mushroom was anything but excellent. Why would I put down my own discovery?
I don't think it
makes sense, but I guess it shows how much
self confidence you have as well as faith in mankind. Thanks a lot friend.
Thought I had enough
troubles with enemies. I really appreciate you
flying off the handle before checking with me. Someone is laughing like hell at
you and me now,
thanks! Mr.G


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: ]
    #627580 - 05/12/02 08:06 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I looked at a past email Mr. G sent me (I'm 100% sure that email came from him) and it wasn't encrypted. And the headers are VERY similar.


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: 3DSHROOM]
    #627593 - 05/12/02 08:16 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I dont know 3D after reading this whole thread it appears you guys may be took it in the ass on this one. Someone wanted you and or Thor to react in this manner it now appears.


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: SouthernGent]
    #627643 - 05/12/02 08:58 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I've talked to him on ICQ, and he hasn't been on to say anything to me, so I still have my theories.


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: 3DSHROOM]
    #627696 - 05/12/02 10:10 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Mr G sends me about 50% unencrypted and 50% encrypted.

I'm sorry if you want to believe him, I just think he's covering his ass because I told him that I wanted to take legal action.

He freaked out and sent 3 emails in a rage, if he'd just responed to my last email and apologized I would drop it.

But he wants to play these games.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #627730 - 05/12/02 10:34 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Well since I have prove this for some of you to believe me, here goes...

I'll use Mr G's old post from alt.drugs.mushrooms :
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=3728464A.42F41B37%40metrolink.net

Notice the date of that Newsgroup post Date: 1999/04/29

Now I will snip a short sentence from the above post:
"I'm me, who the
fuck do you think you are??????????????????? It is me, it is me, It is Dr. Fucking G
to you asshole.......
Tell me what proof you will accept, audience? I can prove who I am, and I am not a
pussy hiding behind a fake email address.........am I, dick smoker .............


Now lets look at email number 3 again, please not the similarities

Email #3
You stupid dick sucking faggot. I am coming after you and you just got
fair warning. I am kicking you r fucking ass. You better warn Thor
Workman and Hawk. You better fucking run. I am being decent by giving
you fair warning. Let it never be said you were not given a chance. Yes
i am crazy and you are going to find out how much! Take it to the
fucking bank fag. Feel big? Want to put your big mouth where your
asshole is? Meet me somewhere or just wait and see what happens to you.
Try me asshole dick smoker. What are you going to do? Take your little
fucking ball and go home? Better make sure if you guys have a wives and
kids that they look both ways before crossing the street. Understand ass
wipe???? Fuck you. I can kick your ass any day, and I am going to so
you have been warned. All of you! Your little butt fuck buddies are
fucked as well!"


Another interesting coincidence, maybe Mr G has a split personality?

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Confirmation.... 99.99% assurance MR G sent this. [Re: Thor]
    #627747 - 05/12/02 10:58 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

So when we look at the contact information for fmfarms.com we get the following

Administrative Contact:
Fogy Mountain Farms (ASHTWTQOGO) fast_mac@bellsouth.net
Fogy Mountain Farms
844NW Fork Road
Stuart, FL 34994
US
772-692-4092 fax: 123 123 123

notice the bellsouth.net address

now when we look at the email headers we get this

Received: from imf17bis.bellsouth.net (mail217.mail.bellsouth.net
[205.152.58.157])
by shroomery.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id
g49ATGQA008041;
Thu, 9 May 2002 10:29:16 GMT
Received: from fmfarms.com ([209.214.13.209]) by imf17bis.bellsouth.net

to ensure there was no host name spoofing I ran a host lookup and retrieved these results

host 209.214.13.209
Name: host-209-214-13-209.pbi.bellsouth.net
Address: 209.214.13.209

so, basically, either someone else who has bellsouth.net as an ISP did this(highly unlikely considering the specifics and who else would have known about the situation with thor and Mr G) or Mr G did in fact send these emails to thor.

Or if Mr G still denies this information we can send a subpoena to his ISP for the log of which user had that IP addy at the time that email was sent, in the interest of legal action against Mr G.

Whala, guilt established

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #627874 - 05/12/02 01:25 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

*speechless*


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #627897 - 05/12/02 02:11 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

that kid is psychotic..................


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Re: Confirmation.... 99.99% assurance MR G sent this. [Re: Ripper]
    #627899 - 05/12/02 02:13 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

As for legal action, that's a stupid idea. You know as well as I do no one's gonna get hurt for some fucking spores. Also considering the nature of this site i'd think legal action should be avoided. Just my opinion though.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #627920 - 05/12/02 02:35 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Hey Thor, maybe this isn't the right place to ask this, but how about sending me that print of the new species. Hehe.

Hang in there man, there are still a few dates open for the fmfarms implosion pool.


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Anno]
    #627926 - 05/12/02 02:40 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

"Yes? Can you tell me how? "

How to send an email from someone else's or a fake email address...

1. Telnet to port 25 of any internet server
(eg. telnet site.name.and.address 25)
2. If at all possible, AVOID TYPING "HELO".
3. Type: rcpt to (person to receive fake mail){ENTER}
4. Type: mail from (fake name and address){ENTER}
5. The mail server should ok each time after each name.
6. If it does not:
a) type vrfy and then the name of the person
b) as a last resort use helo, this will login your computer as
having been the source of the mail
7. Retype the commands, it should say ok now.
8. Type: data{ENTER}
9. The first line of the message will be the Subject line
10. Enter your letter
11. To send letter type a "." on an empty line.
12. Then type quit{ENTER}
13. This is traceable by any sysadmin ... don't harass people this
way.
14. If the person receiving the mail uses a shell like elm he/she
will not see the telltale fake message warning
"Apparently-To:(name)" even if not, most people wouldn't know
what it means anyway.
15. Make sure you use a four part address somebody@part1.pt2.pt3.pt4
so as to make it look more believable and cover any add-ons the
mail routine might try
16. Put a realistic mail header in the mail message to throw people
off even more. If there are To: and Date: lines then the
program probably won't add them on.
17. Also try to telnet to the site where the recipient has his
account. This works better if you know how to fool it.

its even easier than that for the dumber folks(and easier to trace)...all you have to do is go into your email client and change your email address to anything you want, and boom- it sends it as that. as others have pointed out this can be traced back to you either way.



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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: AbstractSoul]
    #627948 - 05/12/02 02:58 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

When I was a kid, I did the telnet mail spoof to my girlfriend's boss who was harassing her and all it took for them to track me down was a few calls to a few ISPs. I even telneted into an anonymous server....well, they were anonymous until someone raised hell.................

Long story short, call the people at the server where the mail originated from ....hint....look in the headers.......................dork


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: AbstractSoul]
    #627954 - 05/12/02 03:07 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

WOW AbSo you're pretty smart. PM me if you have any other kewl knowledge!!


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: PGF]
    #628015 - 05/12/02 04:11 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)


Emails from Mr G
1. These emails are from Mr G
2. These Emails are not from Mr. G
3. I don't know what to believe




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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #628182 - 05/12/02 06:17 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

You want to call the cops on someone, but you do not even know how to tell if that someone is really them.

So, what do you do? You make a poll and let the idiots in the vendor forum judge. These are the same vendors who call cops on their customers and post customer addresses and phone #'s.

Man, let 3D help you or something. Ask your buddies who know how to turn a computer on help you out. You may just have a Dimitruis, McMan, or some other shady vendor fucking with you.

Do you think the cops know how to track down an e-mail from someone?

I mean, you are in the canadia; you have no FBI there, do you? Do some detective work and call some ISPs and shit before you sound like another dumb stoner kid at the RCMP station.

The ISPs will at least persue and track down the origination of the probelm. The cops, unless you have some kind of proof, will treat you like a fat paranoid drug addict.

Jesus.

Just my 2 cents.

Call some ISPs.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: PGF]
    #628202 - 05/12/02 06:34 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

In reply to:

You want to call the cops on someone, but you do not even know how to tell if that someone is really them.



I wouldn't unless I'm sure, right now I'm having people check into this before I do anything.

In reply to:

So, what do you do? You make a poll and let the idiots in the vendor forum judge. These are the same vendors who call cops on their customers and post customer addresses and phone #'s.



The poll was for a laugh, I just wanted to see how many people actually thought it wasn't him.

In reply to:

Man, let 3D help you or something. Ask your buddies who know how to turn a computer on help you out. You may just have a Dimitruis, McMan, or some other shady vendor fucking with you.



The info in his emails were only known to me and him. I highly doubt someone would go to that trouble, and besides Ripper says its 99% likely thanks to the headers on the emails that its him, or at least someone on his computer.

In reply to:

Do you think the cops know how to track down an e-mail from someone?



The ISP is the people I'm approaching, they can find out exactly what happened in this case and I'm sure they will be co-operative considering the threats in the email.

In reply to:

I mean, you are in the canadia; you have no FBI there, do you? Do some detective work and call some ISPs and shit before you sound like another dumb stoner kid at the RCMP station.

The ISPs will at least persue and track down the origination of the probelm. The cops, unless you have some kind of proof, will treat you like a fat paranoid drug addict.

Jesus.

Just my 2 cents.

Call some ISPs.

(-:



Poppy, like I've said to you before man, don't assume so much. The first thing I did after I got those emails was to ask a few computer experts to get cracking on finding out if those were for sure from him. The next step is contacting the ISP which I will do tommorow.

Legal action is something that I considered when I was very angry, but then again he's denying this and I'm being told by some smart computer people that those emails are from him.

I will wait on the ISP to see what happens next, personally I just want Mr G to admit to it if he did this, which I'm quite certain of at this point.


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #628213 - 05/12/02 06:43 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

oh, my bad. From your posts it sounded like you were gathering a posse' to lynch this person before he was shown to be responsible.

I've never even heard of this Mr. G asshole, but having an administrator bring something like this out and have everyone take shots at him basically will ruin the dork, especially if he is a vendor.

Hopefully you can resolve this and implicate the correct party (Mr G or otherwise).

I'm glad Ripper is helping you out. I've heard so many good things about him on IRC. I hear he is pretty knowledgeable about IRC...I guess that is why he is you IRCop. They really speak highly of him in #weirder.


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: PGF]
    #628232 - 05/12/02 06:56 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I think posses are fun, brings people together and thats a wonderfull thing

Yeah Ripper is pretty damn awesome, he's been doing a lot of work helping out with the new server.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #628233 - 05/12/02 06:57 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Thor, Recently he posted here at the shroomery under another name saying he had been banned from posting and then someone, I think Club99 said that Mr. G. wasn't banned.

His posting a mesage directly to you at alt.drug.net makes no sense and asking others to post his response to you because he is unable to post here is ludicrous.

This person made a threat against your family. IF he did that in person you could have him arrested just for terroristic threatening. I myself would have turned this over to the police regardless of what anyone else here at the shroomery say if he had threatened my children or family..

This is not snitching but it is protecting the family that you love.

These are ill rational words and a threat is a threat. I see no joke and I think those defending him with a few posts are either him or one of his friends.

Those who come here and say he is heavilly medicated, Well I have seen junkies who are heavilly medicated and they sure cannot type nor have the inclination or thoughts to type when they are nodding and heavy medication usually keeps people from showing that kind of hate/anger. In fact being heavilly medicated is an indication of slowness of thought and dulling of pain, both mental and physical so that it is not an excuse acceptable to one whose family is threatened. This is something that when you marry you promise to honor and obey and protect for as long as you live.

Anyone said those kind of things to someone in person would get slapped upside their heads real fast with a slow brick or busted for saying them.

and one person here repsonding at his request had put Mr. G's his url at the bottom of several of his posts , later changing it to the little guy ad and then linolium, And Mr. G. is in Florida and he is also the Master Grower, he signs his name as such at his site. He is not in Switzerland as he says and this is his cover in case of legal action probably thinking that no one would call the cops over his crazy shit.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: mjshroomer]
    #628261 - 05/12/02 07:15 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

>"In fact being heavilly medicated is an indication of slowness of thought and dulling of pain, both mental and physical so that it is not an excuse acceptable....."




I tend to agree with you here. I was a sever pill junkie for like 15 years, and on most of my pill bingies people that didnt know what I was on thought that I was drunk...

...AND this is what bothers me. I remember going thru sever withdrawl many times, and believe me... I was a total unrational dick when I was jonesing. When I got a new script I was everyone's best friend... etc..

Also we dont know what scripts he is on. We can certainly asume drugs such as strong pain killing narcotics, tranqalizers, muscle relaxers (Soma (c)'s fucked me up bad) etc... But, what if he is on drugs for mental problems or perhaps even prescription speed. Not to mention what would the effects off so many possible meds being combined with 'SHROOMS and/or booze would be?

I think it's impossible to know the effects of his meds, 'cuz we dont know everthing (anything?) that he might be ingesting.

Other than that I agree with you man!


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: AbstractSoul]
    #628277 - 05/12/02 07:21 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Guess what friend,

#1 bellsouth.net does not run an open-relay
if you knew jack shit about relaying you would know that they end up in RBL's..
#2 the headers clearly show that a user from an ip block owned by bellsouth.net connected to a bellsouth.net mail server, the mail was sent to us from a bellsouth.net mail server, thats something that can't be spoofed.

#3 if the ip was spoofed, the reverse lookup on it wouldn't have matched, old style relaying is lame

most ISP's allow users to put whatever they want in their from headers, thats why Mr G used their server, because thats his outgoing mail server and he did change his from address, that goes without saying

I will be contacting the ISA/SEC team at bellsouth.net on monday regarding this matter and requesting confirmation of the user inovled in this persuant to legal action. Mr G made threats against Thor, thats against the law, even in email, and after bellsouth verifies it was him that was logged in we retrieve those records, and whala... he's in deep shit, in fact, he crossed state lines, violating federal law, not state law, so the FBI's internet crimes unit would be after it. This site does not break any laws, what he did does. Point in case, Mr G is Mr Fucked pretty soon.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Ripper]
    #628389 - 05/12/02 08:28 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

How secure is the new server? Could someone have hacked the shroomery server to do this?

I believe it is Mr.G, but all posibilities should be explored. Probably by the cops no matter who sent it.



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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #628499 - 05/13/02 12:02 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

yea-just because he had a bellsouth block dont mean shit-

i used to be on a bellsouth block-

i moved 30 miles away-i was on the same bellsouth block-

i really think that mr G is smart enough that he was gonna threan someone,he would do it from an unknown mailbox,such as hotmail-


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #628506 - 05/13/02 12:18 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

What if we all become like this after years of shrooming?

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: zeronio]
    #628571 - 05/13/02 02:27 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Hasn't happened yet


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: johnwsmoke]
    #629095 - 05/13/02 11:07 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

My personal opinion is that anyone who calls the man down on a fellow psychonaut is uncool. Not that Mr. G comes near to qualifying as cool. It's a feeble junkie's rambling threat, assuming that it was even him. You know damn well that if he is investigated, he will very likely get popped with at least a few shrooms. The penalties for which no man should suffer. Even if he is a mouthy little bitch. I say walk away, and feel like a bigger man.

What's he really going to do, spank your wife's ass with a crutch and snarl at your kids? Your wife would slap the morphine out of him, and your kids would stomp out the demeral. Assuming he ever even leaves his trailer.

I believe that those who wish to avoid the heavy hand of the law should be very reluctant to call it down on others. For any reason. But yeah, i'd be pissed too, especially at first. Hearing everybody talk shit about him probably hurt his ego far worse than jailtime ever would anyone, being as egotistical as he is......


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: mycofile]
    #629105 - 05/13/02 11:17 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I agree Mycofile, my intial post was obviously made in a unsettled anger.

The ISP is the one I'd bring down on him, not the law. Mabye him losing his account will make him realize this kind of thing does not go unpunished.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #629244 - 05/13/02 01:17 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

glad to see your rage has settled.....


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: mycofile]
    #629256 - 05/13/02 01:33 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Mycofile, I agree with you. If Mr.G did make those threats it wasn't right but I think legal action should be avoided. If someone acts on these threats or shows intentions of it by all means call the authorities for the safety of your family but until then I think you're doing the right thing. Hope everything works out good.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #629257 - 05/13/02 01:33 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Nail his ass to the wall, both with the ISP and the police. The man is a nutcase and you shouldn't take any chances. If something did happen to your family... could you live with the fact you did nothing?


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #629721 - 05/13/02 09:04 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I just want the truth right now, I think that would let this thing go away. I just feel like I have to find out, it was rather shocking to get those emails and even though I'm sure my life isn't in danger it still does rattle you a bit.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #631845 - 05/15/02 02:00 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I just want you people to know about a political technique I read about on www.emeryseeds.com. When the DEA wants to control drugs one of their ways is to infiltrate websites. They assume identities of other people and launch attacks against leaders. They know these sites are political dynomite because if enough people talk to each other and organize they know they will be defeated. This disruption of the organization here is all planned. This is the CIA picking at you guys. Somebody is doing that on this site because I have read replies claiming someone was impersonating others. If the pigs want to fake an e-mail, believe me you won't tell.
What better person to attack than Mr G, the founder of all of the mushrooms and a figurehead? Let's all stick together stronger now that we know we might be under attack.
It's very possible that these are fake e-mails and I give the guy the benefit of the doubt.


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #631902 - 05/15/02 02:38 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Thor - the best way for it to go away is for you to handle it on your own and close this thread. the longer this thread is open the more speculation/rumors/etc are going to come about. do what YOU have to do.


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Orchidman]
    #631905 - 05/15/02 02:42 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

In reply to:

What better person to attack than Mr G, the founder of all of the mushrooms





So the "G" stands for God?




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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Orchidman]
    #631911 - 05/15/02 02:48 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

What better person to attack than Mr G, the founder of all of the mushrooms and a figurehead?




He didn't find them all..... 1 or 2 strains at the most.
I'm not bashing you....but this site is about correct info.

And is isn't a figurehead...far from it.

And the CIA has alot better things to do..... than to waste there time coming to a mushroom site.

Be more concerned with the DEA!

But until you see some of the other sites being attacked by them.... you shouldn't worry too much.....mushrooms are very low on there list of things to control.

Just my 2 cents worth!


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Roadkill]
    #632411 - 05/16/02 12:46 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

The DEA only beconmes involove if there is interstate transportation.

I have talked to several DEA agaents over the yars who attend many mushroom conferences as observers. Their interest lies only when someone takes a drug across the state lines.

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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: Thor]
    #632421 - 05/16/02 01:08 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

What I find the funniest is the fact that he wrote this
>Better make sure if you guys have a wives and
>kids that they look both ways before crossing the street .

First of all if he was going to do anything he would have done his research and already known if you have "a wives and kids" hahah nice english "a wives and kids"??? :P


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Re: Mr G shows his true colours... A must read. [Re: SumGuy]
    #634070 - 05/17/02 07:26 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Isn't looking both ways before you cross the street a good idea for kids and adults, regardless of their marital status, gender or familial ties? Maybe he was just being helpful there. Actually, it's probably the most helpful thing he's said since his return...

Why is this thread still open? I know that privaleged folks are involved here, but the only thing this really has to do with a vendor is to work out personal differences or to bad mouth his business for personal reasons. I think it belongs in OT if it stays open at all. I'm not taking sides, if I were I wouldn't mention this. I just don't see how this has anything to do with a company and it's services/products.


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I just looked at my profile and realized I had a website at one point in time on geocities, it's not there anymore and I have no idea what I had on it. Anybody remember my website from several years aga? PM if so please.

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