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Hyphae's Pinning Strategy ?
    #6260661 - 11/08/06 08:10 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Proper misting question

Greetings my fellow shroomerites…. I was looking for replies from EXPERIENCED cultivators…

In your opinion…. When are the best times to mist? (mist, NOT spray)
I use this

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Recommended by the living legend HYPHAE

IMO I have had excellent results misting lightly EVERY day.
I do this daily once my grow is in the FC (12/12 light/dark, 95%+humidity)
I spray in this fashion… “I mist it down stopping often and looking at the surface of the casing to see the point where it glistens, this is the point that I call "Near Saturation" This is the optimal moisture level for mycelium growth.” (taken from hyphae)


AS OPPOSED TO

Hyphaes strategy which protocols “Now once you see the myc. starting to poke through stop misting the casing has the perfect amount of moisture to carry you through the pinset, I still fan 3-4 times a day and by fanning I usually take the lid and use that to give it a few fans I suppose you could use one of those battery operated personal fans which may work better IMO and then a very light misting from a distance using a pumpup sprayer always! they when adjusted correctly produce a extremely fine mist  If you do not have one of these then don't mist it's not that critical at this point.”

Hyphae says to stop misting once you see MYC starting to poke through

I have had great success misting daily and I am pretty apprehensive to change things in this hobby if all is going well
AND I see my pins shoot up fairly quickly when I mist daily (as opposed maybe if I miss a day) they seem to suck the water right up and grow even bigger

If I follow hyphae’s protocol, it seems like the casing starts to dry out (not trying to bash you hyphae!) Also, like I said before, if I miss a day, the harvest seems reinvigorated after I mist it the following day. If I don’t, it appears to become dry.

The one thing I do not like about misting daily is that I always got to bring the humidity level back up, but no biggie… as long as it is what is best for my babies!

SO, mist daily OR follow hyphae’s protocol, experienced growers PLEASE!

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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy ? [Re: tonyperez420]
    #6260665 - 11/08/06 08:14 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

when the mycelium penetration is as i want it to be i stop misting,
the casing layer got enuf moisture inside it for fruiting.

i have noticed bad results misting when knots/pins form, it caused many aborts.

i did this for some years now, wont change my practice anytime soon.


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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy ? [Re: tonyperez420]
    #6260673 - 11/08/06 08:26 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I , personally , never really quit misting and run an ultrasonic close to 20 hours a day , as LONG as my FAE is constant and things don't get soggy  . :thumbup:

My green house is so foggy the mushrooms aren't growing up as much as before because not as much light is penetrating the fog .

Hyphae strategy is awesome , I've just kinda tweaked to suit my individual needs :grin:


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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy ? [Re: ohmatic]
    #6260743 - 11/08/06 09:31 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

replies from 2 experts  :blush:

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ohmatic said:
when the mycelium penetration is as i want it to be i stop misting,
the casing layer got enuf moisture inside it for fruiting.

i have noticed bad results misting when knots/pins form, it caused many aborts.





EXACTLY what do you mean by "mycelium penetration is as I want"
when it starts poking thru?

AND I notice close to zero aborts when I mist lightly everday...
maybe its a difference in our FC set ups?!?!

I got 2 Arg and 2 OI that are getting ready for the FC in 2 days
I guess the only thing I could do is a side by side comparison...

thanks again for the replies and I welcome more!!!

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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy ? [Re: tonyperez420]
    #6261266 - 11/08/06 12:57 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

yea. what i would say is if you want to continue misting after seeing the myc. crack yer FC lid a bit for a few hours afterwards. Like Hippie the FAE is the key thing, it'll evaporate alot of that water thats on the surface of myc/pins/shrooms. I still feel safer not misting while the casings are knotting till when the pinset is complete. That's just me tho.

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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy ? [Re: Primate]
    #6261395 - 11/08/06 01:34 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

First of all I'd like to say that this pinning strategy was written for peat based casing layers, I recommend always lightly misting throughout the whole cycle of growth IF you know what your doing. You definitely do not want your casing layer to dry at all during this critical time, if there is excessive drying for whatever reason then by all means place a layer of waxpaper over the top to inhibit the evaporation. I don't remember but I believe I recommended RH levels during pinning in the 95-98% range which will also decrease transpiration of the casing layer and when everything is dialed in the casing layer indeed has enough moisture to carry it through thoughs few days. Remember this strategy was written for the novice and when followed exactly will provide consistantly prolific results, remember ALL parameters must be followed in order for the strategy to work optimally anything else may still provide decent results although they may not be consistant. When using coolmists/ultrasonics there will certainly parameters that will need to be "tweaked". :wink:


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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy ? [Re: hyphae]
    #6262872 - 11/08/06 08:38 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I haven't read it in a while because I have done it enough times that I pretty much have it memorized but I do still have it book marked for future reference,Its basically a balancing act between keeping it wet enough and not too wet where is it soaked,It takes a bit of practice but you will figure it out,Practice makes perfect,Don't forget the Fae


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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy ? [Re: Blutjager]
    #6262920 - 11/08/06 08:53 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I still read it from time to time . It's what helped get me to where I am today :thumbup:

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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy ? [Re: HippieChick]
    #6262925 - 11/08/06 08:54 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I just read it again, even though I'm about 2 weeks from casing (masssssssive spawn run in progress) :wink:


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    #6263544 - 11/08/06 11:54 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy ? [Re: MultiSync]
    #6263565 - 11/08/06 11:59 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

MultiSync said:
It seems like the posts on this topic are random and never go into a high level of detail. Any advice/suggested reading would be GREATLY appreciated.




Indeed  :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

thanks for responses

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Re:?Hyphae's Pinning Strategy ? [Re: tonyperez420]
    #6263612 - 11/09/06 12:11 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Hyphae's Pinning Strategy is one of the most useful things here


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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy ? [Re: tonyperez420]
    #6264324 - 11/09/06 07:56 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

tonyperez420 said:
EXACTLY what do you mean by "mycelium penetration is as I want"
when it starts poking thru?




perfect penetration:


resulting in this:


leading to this:


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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy ? [Re: ohmatic]
    #6264828 - 11/09/06 12:14 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

OHMATIC

that is exactly what I pictured when you said "mycelium penetration is as I want"

AND

This is precisely when I mist daily.... NOT trying to bash you but when I mist everyday, the harvest at times is SO prolific that you cannot even see the bottom... I do not know what my BE is but I have gotten 12 ounces dry + (malaysa) on the first flush of 10lbs tennstud, and I am usually not interested in anything more then the third flush.
The BIG DIFFERENCE between your FC setup OHMATIC and mine is I grow bulk. I use a 96 qt. snaptop which leaves 2-3 inch substrate of 10lbs tennstud.
It is what my theory was in the first place.... since small grows are more contained... they do not need the constant misting, on the other hand bulk grows are bigger and need more moisture to produce bigger shrooms... so for more BULK growers like HIPPIECHICK (queen of BE lol) and myself... misting may producer bigger yields...

just my thoughts, in due time I will tweek out whats best for my growing conditions

many thanks to the shroomery community

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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy ? [Re: tonyperez420]
    #6264905 - 11/09/06 12:39 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

what a BIG DIFFERENCE given that that was cased manure ..


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