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da_Vinci7
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1st time bulk questions
#624035 - 05/01/02 12:20 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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A foaf had 6 Qt. jars of colonized rye(shaken approx. 36hr before spawning). He pasteurized some straw in a pillow case for 45m at between 160-170 F, let drain for 2 hours then filled into 3 plastic trays 15x11x5.5. This filled the containers to approx. 3.5-4 inch mark. Each tray was placed into its own bigger container w/lid and let cool overnight.
Containers were checked in morning, straw was very damp(squishy), with no standing water in the bottom of any. Proceeded with spawning each container with 2 QT. jars apiece.(all done in front of oven-w/ thorough cleaning of area beforehand and gloves worn.) My friend found that if you cut out the back of a filter patch bag and stretched it out flat it could be used to cover the straw containers w/ the lid(center cut out) used to hold the bag in place.
He basically wants to know if this is a qood idea or not. Will the filter patch(1.5inx1.5in) allow enough gas exchange for the spawn run? Will the filter bag covering keep too much moisture in the straw? Should he have drilled a hole in the bottom of the container (and covered with a filter patch) to help alleviate drainage/air exchange issues? Being this is his first time using bulk sub. any advice would be appreciated.
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angryshroom
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Re: 1st time bulk questions [Re: da_Vinci7]
#624071 - 05/01/02 01:19 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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I really cant understnad what you are doing with the filter patch bag, but if you just take your container with the lid on, and keep it in darkness, maybe with a few little holes on the side for small gas exchange, you'll be fine. Once thast colonized, you can case it, and use bigger holes with polyfill stuffed in them to maximize the gas exchange.
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ParticleMan
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Re: 1st time bulk questions [Re: da_Vinci7]
#624104 - 05/01/02 01:59 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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this guy i know takes a fork to some tin-foil and BAM
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Re: 1st time bulk questions [Re: ParticleMan]
#624152 - 05/01/02 03:26 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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personally, I put a layer of seran wrap over the bin, then poke some holes in it with a knife. Then I'll put some tinfoil over that so that dust doesn't come in through the holes. The plastic may not be necessary but why mess with a good thing.
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johnwsmoke
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Re: 1st time bulk questions [Re: angryshroom]
#624769 - 05/02/02 09:21 AM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is air exchange really necessary for spawn run? TMC would say otherwise...
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Seuss
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Re: 1st time bulk questions [Re: johnwsmoke]
#624869 - 05/02/02 12:17 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have found that without some airflow the humidity tends to build up and contamination moves in.
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da_Vinci7
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#624922 - 05/02/02 01:28 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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da_Vinci7
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#624928 - 05/02/02 01:36 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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angryshroom
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Re: 1st time bulk questions [Re: da_Vinci7]
#625144 - 05/02/02 06:25 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh I see what your doing.
Yeah thats fine. The spawn run should be real humid.
Well you will want to have a little gas exchange or else it well get really stagnet, and thats not good. When I said to make bigger holes and fill them with polyfill, I meant that should be done when your going to fruit.
So you should poke some holes in there or something...BTW the mycelium is looking good.
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