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Invisiblezonemeister
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Bluethumbs magic compost bags with pans / trops ?
    #622240 - 04/29/02 02:31 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Does anyone have any results that they care to post, using
Dr. Bluethumbs magic compost bags with pans?
Methods, procedures,schedules, results, images, etc.......


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Re: Bluethumbs magic compost bags with pans / trops ? [Re: zonemeister]
    #622331 - 04/29/02 05:09 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

I asked them a similar question-whether Mexicana A would work, and was told that they can fill the bag with the right type of grain if you ask. Of couse, that doesn't answer your question.

There are two types of bags. One is grain, the other has a grain pocket that you innoculate, and then mix with the compost in the bottom of the bag.

AFOF was thinking about trying them.


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Re: Bluethumbs magic compost bags with pans / trops ? [Re: zonemeister]
    #622926 - 04/30/02 07:36 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

My friend is working with two types Bluethumbs bags... The rye bags which we inncoculated 43 days ago.. fully colonized no sign of pins yet. I m thinking of dunking them to see if they ll pin. He is using PB in those bags, AND also using 5 Bluethumbs compost bags with Pan Trops. Rye packets colonized withing 7 days and tipped into the compost about 8 days ago... Good mycelium growth on top of the compost but will be a few weeks at least before ready to introduce light to them and see if they ll pin. I m very hopeful they will. I dont know why the PB didnt pin because they colonized very quickly and I thought everything was going according to plan. Sporeworks myco bags also used with some PB and some B+ 42 days ago.. on second flush. I think if you re going to use Bluethumbs bags that the compost ones are the way to go.


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Re: Bluethumbs magic compost bags with pans / trops ? [Re: SouthernGent]
    #622943 - 04/30/02 08:47 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

My friends uncle is currently using the compost bags. He tried three bags with Pan Trops.
One of them, the rye did not colonize. The other two were fine. He dumped the rye. Let one sit for 3 days then massaged(good growth throughout after 8 days). The other let it sit for 8 days so far without massaging(good growth on top). He said he will massage after the recommended ten days. He received a recommendation from a certain Dr., "dump rye/let sit for 10 days/massage to move things around/wait five days/massage again/let sit until 90% colonized then fruit".

He said it is hard to see growth through the bag because the mycelium is so fine
and delicate. Any suggestions for what to look for to conclude that it is 90% colonized? Thanks.


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Re: Bluethumbs magic compost bags with pans / trops ? [Re: zonemeister]
    #628828 - 05/13/02 09:24 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Any body have an update here? Looking good so far.06


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Invisiblezonemeister
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Re: Bluethumbs magic compost bags with pans / trops ? [Re: gratefulme]
    #628841 - 05/13/02 09:44 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

One bag made it. The other one turned out to have a broken seal at the top and
it dryed out and/or got contaminated. Here is a pic. of the bag that made it.
Put it in a tray and cased. This is 3 days after casing runnout.
Does anyone know how long it takes for Pans to pin after introducing light?



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Re: Bluethumbs magic compost bags with pans / trops ? [Re: zonemeister]
    #628852 - 05/13/02 10:03 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

im decideing wether to use the magic compost bags for some ps.cyan's. i JUST ordered an impulse sealer, cant make up my mind to try my own with a sporeworks filter patch bag( with my own ingredients), or use dimitri's magic compost already made.... i want these to grow well, really bad...decisions, decisions, decisions anyone got a pic of the magic bag?i cant seem to visulalize how the grain pouch works, seems like if you can tip it, it would spill out anyway


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Re: Bluethumbs magic compost bags with pans / trops ? [Re: zonemeister]
    #628901 - 05/13/02 10:49 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

So out of 3 bags only 1 made it? Man that sucks. I hope thats not the standard.


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Re: Bluethumbs magic compost bags with pans / trops ? [Re: gratefulme]
    #628920 - 05/13/02 11:02 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Yes but, probably not the standard.
It turned out that the bags that did not make it were popped.
I was shipped 5 bags and 3 gal of casing. Everything was loosely packed
when shipped. So the large bag of casing was acting like a battering ram
during shipping and it popped 3 of the 5 bags. Dr. Blue was informed of this and
he replaced the popped ones and threw in a couple extra. I still think he has a decent product and his customer service is great.
The packing could be improved though,


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Re: Bluethumbs magic compost bags with pans / trops ? [Re: zonemeister]
    #628939 - 05/13/02 11:24 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

I don't doubt his customer service I have seen it first hand. Unless someone carries a product he dosn't I won't go elsewhere. I've got some of these on the way and am just curious how they are working. Why did you decide to case instead of growing them in the bag?


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Re: Bluethumbs magic compost bags with pans / trops ? [Re: gratefulme]
    #628946 - 05/13/02 11:34 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

I was told that nobody has had any success fruiting Pans in a bag.


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Re: Bluethumbs magic compost bags with pans / trops ? [Re: zonemeister]
    #629187 - 05/13/02 02:23 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

anyone know about this? anyone had success with pan trops in a bag? my friend has got some bags coming from dr. b-t and he was hoping to use some pan trop spores he got from ralph a few months ago.

anyone?

take care! stay safe...
-bizarro




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