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Offlinecowflop
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west indian cope cyan?
    #621379 - 04/28/02 03:44 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

found growing directly from a cowflop. made a black spore print.



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Re: west indian cope cyan? [Re: cowflop]
    #621739 - 04/28/02 11:16 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Nope, copes will bruise so damn blue when you touch them that it is unmistakeable. There is no blueing on that one.


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Re: west indian cope cyan? [Re: cowflop]
    #622116 - 04/29/02 11:58 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

It made a blue stain on the paper i spore printed it on. Can anyone identify this mushroom?


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Re: west indian cope cyan? [Re: cowflop]
    #622138 - 04/29/02 12:33 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Looks to me like Copelandia cyanescens. Not all Copes turn blue. It depends on how you handle them when picking them.

Point in case. Se the images posted here below.





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Re: west indian cope cyan? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #622221 - 04/29/02 02:07 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Well there is your proof against Mr. G, MJ. I live on an island in the caribbean where pineapples were never cultivated, only sugar cane. We have both cubensis and cope cyans. The cyans we pick here are a more gray color than the cyans you have pictures of from Hawaii and cambodia. I have also never found one taller than 6" and the ones you have found are much taller. This leads me to believe this is another strain of cyans that has yet to be "mass marketed". Thank you MJ you are deff the man. Have you even been shroomin in the caribbean? The cubensis here only grow in the cowfields at the tops of the mountains. The cyans however grow in almost every field after a hard rain. The cubensis seem to like a little less rain and more of a misty climate. I have a pile of colonizing poo in my back yard that i am almost ready to let the sun shine in on. I hope i can get a nice flush and spread the spore prints.


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Re: west indian cope cyan? [Re: cowflop]
    #624374 - 05/01/02 10:55 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

neat images cowflop
I just love this stuff.

Interesting specimen.

I would rate this mushroom too tough for me to Positively identify,
-with only the one specimen
-also there is no picture of the gills

The tiny shiny speckles on the stem are known as fillibrose flecks..

My guesses are,

Panaeolus papilionaceus(not psychoactive)
or
Panaeolus cyanescens (Copelandia).

If the mushrooms strained blue, then they are Copelandia.

And mjshroomer typed that not every Copelandia cyanescens stains blue, wrong!

anyways, try to get more photos for us to see!!

Keep shroomin,
GG


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Re: west indian cope cyan? [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #624424 - 05/01/02 11:55 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

People have been eating these mushrooms around here for a while. They were calling them liberty caps. After some reasearch I came to the conclusion I believe they were Pan.Cyan. not the Ps. Sem. I have a spore print of that mushroom and am going to attempt to make some spore prints so everyone can try these out. The trip is very visual and intense. Not a warm and fuzzy feeling like the cubes from around here(which I believe are very close to the gulf coast strain). The gills were black. I have found ones with grey gills and more grey colored rather than tan caps.


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Re: west indian cope cyan? [Re: cowflop]
    #624927 - 05/02/02 03:35 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)



Found this one today in the same field as the other, possibly in the same flop though im not sure. . Notice the bluing in the center of the cap. I ran into a bee's nest and lost a piece of the cap in the dash. The spore print is black like the other. What do you think?? Cope Cyan or a nonactive cope species?


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Re: west indian cope cyan? [Re: cowflop]
    #625635 - 05/03/02 12:51 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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