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Offlineelviemaynard
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I am an LC Retard.
    #6202993 - 10/23/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I hope I didnt offend with the retard comment (my girfriend hates it when I say it) but I really feel like I am not capable of doing it.

My third attempt still shows no sign of myc growth. I can see the spores and they are still clear but nothing is kicking.

My first attempt I added h202 (BIG NO NO)
My second attempt I followed fastfreds cookbook of 1 tsp per 100 ml and Creamcorn said that I possibly had too much karo. I also kept them in a box with a heating pad and it was suggested that room temps may be better.

My third attempt I used a syringe and added 3.5 ML of Karo to 100 ML of distilled water and 5 days later the water is still clear other that the polyfill fibers and the spores :crazy2:.

I am keeping them at room temp in my closet this time and instead of PC'ing for 15 minutes and letting it cool on its own (another idea was that I over pc'd it) I pc'd it for 15 @ 15 and then waited 5 minutes and released the pressure so it could cool faster.

I see you guys write all the time about the wonders of LC and would love to use CC's coring tek to clone but I feel stupid and need a hug.


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Re: I am an LC Retard. [Re: elviemaynard]
    #6203204 - 10/23/06 06:44 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

What you are shooting for is a 2-4% solution so your ratio this time seems to be appropriate. Room temp is what I incubate at and have always had success. Dont release pressure from the PC ever. Just wait for it to cool making it cool 1 hour faster isnt going to make any difference, its still going to take days for it to colonize. You may have thrown off the concentration but I doubt thats your problem. How long ago did you inoculate?


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Re: I am an LC Retard. [Re: elviemaynard]
    #6203240 - 10/23/06 06:49 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

hmmm maybe bacillus? Your second try you definitely put too much Karo in. Bacillus (sp?) is a bacteria that prevents myc growth. I'm not sure if that's just in grains though. I'd say give it at least 4 more days. Also keep it in the dark


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Re: I am an LC Retard. [Re: cookeman]
    #6203350 - 10/23/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I inoculated on 10-20 at 9pm


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Re: I am an LC Retard. [Re: cookeman]
    #6203357 - 10/23/06 07:11 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I remember when I couldn't get a grain to colonize to save my life and all I was good at was LC,I was using this tek http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post5238137 I have since tried a few others and this one is my favorite now http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4141612/an/0/page/0 The MOST important thing you can to for LC in my experience is use honey instead of karo,I often to some honey and some karo side by side just for the hell of it and never ever have I seen karo outperform honey,Honey is so much thicker and so much faster thats its beyond description,Often my karo lc's will get one nice jellyfish looking blob and than when I shake it up its so think that you cant even get enough in the syringe to do anything where my honey lc's looks like every sea monkey on the planet is in the syringe after I suck it up,Hope I helped and best of luck to you.Hang in there and keep trying cause persistence is one of the most important things you can have in this hobby

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Re: I am an LC Retard. [Re: Blutjager]
    #6203496 - 10/23/06 07:39 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I've had good results with Karo. I'm going to be switching over to honey though because the myc ball looks so much stronger in honey teks. I've only been able to get one small myc ball in my baby bottle lc's. it's easy for me to break up though and it works fairly fast in the grain jars I've knocked up


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Re: I am an LC Retard. [Re: cookeman]
    #6204013 - 10/23/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

i agree i have two jars i experimented with and the one with karo got inoculated before the one with honey, and the one with honey is just OWNING the karo. theres a rediculous amount of myc floating around in there noticably more than there was this morning :laugh:


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Re: I am an LC Retard. [Re: ButterWeasels]
    #6204703 - 10/24/06 12:02 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

i just started my baby myc bottles yesterday...how long till u can see some growth? only like a day or 2 right?

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Re: I am an LC Retard. [Re: COLDLOGIC]
    #6204745 - 10/24/06 12:12 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

1 or 2 days might be rushing it,maybe like 4 is a little more realistic,just put it somewhere and forget about it for a little while and next time you look you will be pleasantly surprised

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Re: I am an LC Retard. [Re: Blutjager]
    #6204812 - 10/24/06 12:33 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

LCtard


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Re: I am an LC Retard. [Re: Omnicracker]
    #6204815 - 10/24/06 12:34 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Omnicracker said:
LCtard



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Re: I am an LC Retard. [Re: Blutjager]
    #6204843 - 10/24/06 12:49 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

h202 is probly not a no-no, i put some in my LC and it is going fine and the h202 is gunna help block contams


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Re: I am an LC Retard. [Re: ButterWeasels]
    #6204858 - 10/24/06 12:55 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Only once did I but h202 in an LC,I made 2 jars and the ones with the h202 grew absolutely nothing at all

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Re: I am an LC Retard. [Re: Blutjager]
    #6204873 - 10/24/06 01:02 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

So little balls are O.K.? I've noticed in a friend's dog's LC that his puff balls had a denser, darker center. The dog read somewhere online that this could just be clumped up spores?

True? Or will the poor puppy be throwing honey water into the dumpster?


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Re: I am an LC Retard. [Re: Salvinorin]
    #6205248 - 10/24/06 07:48 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I'm going to read more about honey lc. Does it matter what type of honey is used or is organic recommended?

I've made two batches of karo. First one I used 10ml of karo in 300ml of water. After a day I had some myceleum, but its pretty much stalled and is only 1-1.5" wide. Second batch was 5ml karo in 300ml water, I see a few cluters starting but its slow.

I'll try honey next. Any suggestions?


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Re: I am an LC Retard. [Re: Salvinorin]
    #6205285 - 10/24/06 08:16 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

My LC's often have darker centers which I believe come from sediment after PC'ing. The mycelium tends to grow around the clumps of sediment(dextrose/LME). Ive never had any problem.


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