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oddiseus
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Cyanescens questions
#6191226 - 10/20/06 02:08 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey guys I have been out of the loop for quite some time. I am thinking of experimenting with Panaeolus Cyanescens. I only have experience wih cubensis. Could I grow these with the same 50/50 case verm.coir mix?
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Re: Cyanescens questions [Re: oddiseus]
#6191598 - 10/20/06 03:36 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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yep.
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Re: Cyanescens questions [Re: oddiseus]
#6191669 - 10/20/06 03:53 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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id do a lot of reading first.. some of the more exotic species are a little more tricky to cultivate
good luck!
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heard they need poo to grow well not sure though
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zeegos
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coir isn't recommended as a casing layer, especially for pans since they have a high tendency to overlay. 50/50+ would be best.
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HippieChick
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Re: Cyanescens questions [Re: zeegos]
#6192457 - 10/20/06 08:32 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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zeegos said: coir isn't recommended as a casing layer, especially for pans since they have a high tendency to overlay. 50/50+ would be best.
and very , very shallow . Both sub and casing layer 
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oddiseus
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Re: Cyanescens questions [Re: HippieChick]
#6202896 - 10/23/06 05:55 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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what is the 50/50+ that does not use coir? Also what is a sub versus casing layer difference?
-Odd
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oddiseus
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Re: Cyanescens questions [Re: oddiseus]
#6202902 - 10/23/06 05:57 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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should the casing layer of cubensis be shallow or just on the exotic strain?
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Re: Cyanescens questions [Re: oddiseus]
#6203401 - 10/23/06 07:19 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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oddiseus said: what is the 50/50+ that does not use coir? Also what is a sub versus casing layer difference?
-Odd
http://www.shroomery.org/54/50-50-Casing-Tek
A casing layer is a non-nutritive layer that lies on top of the substrate. It's main purpose is to keep the substrate moist through proper sprayings, and it helps defend from contams a bit as well as I've noticed. The substrate is what you are innoculating with your spawn (rye, wbs, crumbled brf cakes(my personal fav))
Hope that helped.
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Pikashroom said: heard they need poo to grow well not sure though
They don't need poo.... I have managed to grow w/o it but your will do soooo much better with it.
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oddiseus
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Re: Cyanescens questions [Re: Cotg8520]
#6204339 - 10/23/06 10:40 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cotg8520 said:
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oddiseus said: what is the 50/50+ that does not use coir? Also what is a sub versus casing layer difference?
-Odd
http://www.shroomery.org/54/50-50-Casing-Tek
A casing layer is a non-nutritive layer that lies on top of the substrate. It's main purpose is to keep the substrate moist through proper sprayings, and it helps defend from contams a bit as well as I've noticed. The substrate is what you are innoculating with your spawn (rye, wbs, crumbled brf cakes(my personal fav))
Hope that helped.
I know what the 50/50 is but I am familiar with only coir/verm.
But in regards to what was posted earlier: " coir isn't recommended as a casing layer, especially for pans since they have a high tendency to overlay. 50/50+ would be best. " I was wondering what the 50/50+ mix was in this mix?
Sorry for the confusion
-Odd
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oddiseus
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Re: Cyanescens questions [Re: oddiseus]
#6204358 - 10/23/06 10:44 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Can I be lazy and ask what the best way to try poo is?
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v1ru5
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Cyan + Shit indoors? [Re: Babo911]
#6811789 - 04/20/07 05:28 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Does pasturized horse poo smell a lot when cased?
.. Coz i was wondering if that HPoo is worth the smell / trouble...
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Babo911
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Re: Cyan + Shit indoors? [Re: v1ru5]
#6811810 - 04/20/07 05:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not if it is properly ages / leached.
Hpoo smells like nothing to me, for pans it is worth the trouble.
with no poo i managed to get 1 gram dry*.....
with poo i got about 12 grams dry* 
*This is per tray in 6 qt containers in a greenhouse*
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TheEnd
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Re: Cyanescens questions [Re: oddiseus]
#6811870 - 04/20/07 06:49 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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oddiseus said:
Quote:
Cotg8520 said:
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oddiseus said: what is the 50/50+ that does not use coir? Also what is a sub versus casing layer difference?
-Odd
http://www.shroomery.org/54/50-50-Casing-Tek
A casing layer is a non-nutritive layer that lies on top of the substrate. It's main purpose is to keep the substrate moist through proper sprayings, and it helps defend from contams a bit as well as I've noticed. The substrate is what you are innoculating with your spawn (rye, wbs, crumbled brf cakes(my personal fav))
Hope that helped.
I know what the 50/50 is but I am familiar with only coir/verm.
But in regards to what was posted earlier: " coir isn't recommended as a casing layer, especially for pans since they have a high tendency to overlay. 50/50+ would be best. " I was wondering what the 50/50+ mix was in this mix?
Sorry for the confusion
-Odd
If you read the 50/50+ tek, it says exactly what is in the mix and how much of it. All you gotta do is click the link and read .
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