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Offlineoddiseus
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Cyanescens questions
    #6191226 - 10/20/06 02:08 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Hey guys I have been out of the loop for quite some time. I am thinking of experimenting with Panaeolus Cyanescens. I only have experience wih cubensis. Could I grow these with the same 50/50 case
verm.coir mix?


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Re: Cyanescens questions [Re: oddiseus]
    #6191598 - 10/20/06 03:36 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

yep.


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Re: Cyanescens questions [Re: oddiseus]
    #6191669 - 10/20/06 03:53 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

id do a lot of reading first.. some of the more exotic species are a little more tricky to cultivate

good luck!


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Re: Cyanescens questions [Re: MycoGlowFlow]
    #6191856 - 10/20/06 05:07 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

heard they need poo to grow well not sure though


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Re: Cyanescens questions [Re: VampireSlayer]
    #6192032 - 10/20/06 06:06 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

coir isn't recommended as a casing layer, especially for pans since they have a high tendency to overlay. 50/50+ would be best.

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Re: Cyanescens questions [Re: zeegos]
    #6192457 - 10/20/06 08:32 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

zeegos said:
coir isn't recommended as a casing layer, especially for pans since they have a high tendency to overlay. 50/50+ would be best.




and very , very shallow . Both sub and casing layer :thumbup:

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Re: Cyanescens questions [Re: HippieChick]
    #6202896 - 10/23/06 05:55 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

what is the 50/50+ that does not use coir?
Also what is a sub versus casing layer difference?

-Odd


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Re: Cyanescens questions [Re: oddiseus]
    #6202902 - 10/23/06 05:57 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

should the casing layer of cubensis be shallow or just on the exotic strain?


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Re: Cyanescens questions [Re: oddiseus]
    #6203401 - 10/23/06 07:19 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

oddiseus said:
what is the 50/50+ that does not use coir?
Also what is a sub versus casing layer difference?

-Odd




http://www.shroomery.org/54/50-50-Casing-Tek

A casing layer is a non-nutritive layer that lies on top of the substrate. It's main purpose is to keep the substrate moist through proper sprayings, and it helps defend from contams a bit as well as I've noticed. The substrate is what you are innoculating with your spawn (rye, wbs, crumbled brf cakes(my personal fav))

Hope that helped.

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Re: Cyanescens questions [Re: VampireSlayer]
    #6203409 - 10/23/06 07:22 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Pikashroom said:
heard they need poo to grow well not sure though




They don't need poo.... I have managed to grow w/o it but your will do soooo much better with it.


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Re: Cyanescens questions [Re: Cotg8520]
    #6204339 - 10/23/06 10:40 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Cotg8520 said:
Quote:

oddiseus said:
what is the 50/50+ that does not use coir?
Also what is a sub versus casing layer difference?

-Odd




http://www.shroomery.org/54/50-50-Casing-Tek

A casing layer is a non-nutritive layer that lies on top of the substrate. It's main purpose is to keep the substrate moist through proper sprayings, and it helps defend from contams a bit as well as I've noticed. The substrate is what you are innoculating with your spawn (rye, wbs, crumbled brf cakes(my personal fav))

Hope that helped.




I know what the 50/50 is but I am familiar with only coir/verm.

But in regards to what was posted earlier: " coir isn't recommended as a casing layer, especially for pans since they have a high tendency to overlay. 50/50+ would be best. " I was wondering what the 50/50+ mix was in this mix?

Sorry for the confusion

-Odd


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Re: Cyanescens questions [Re: oddiseus]
    #6204358 - 10/23/06 10:44 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Can I be lazy and ask what the best way to try poo is?


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Cyan + Shit indoors? [Re: Babo911]
    #6811789 - 04/20/07 05:28 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Does pasturized horse poo smell a lot when cased?

.. Coz i was wondering if that HPoo is worth the smell / trouble...

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Re: Cyan + Shit indoors? [Re: v1ru5]
    #6811810 - 04/20/07 05:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Not if it is properly ages / leached.

Hpoo smells like nothing to me, for pans it is worth the trouble.

with no poo i managed to get 1 gram dry*.....

with poo i got about 12 grams dry*  :smile:

*This is per tray in 6 qt containers in a greenhouse*


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Re: Cyanescens questions [Re: oddiseus]
    #6811870 - 04/20/07 06:49 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

oddiseus said:
Quote:

Cotg8520 said:
Quote:

oddiseus said:
what is the 50/50+ that does  not use coir?
Also what is a sub versus casing layer difference?

-Odd




http://www.shroomery.org/54/50-50-Casing-Tek

A casing layer is a non-nutritive layer that lies on top of the substrate.  It's main purpose is to keep the substrate moist through proper sprayings, and it helps defend from contams a bit as well as I've noticed.  The substrate is what you are innoculating with your spawn (rye, wbs, crumbled brf cakes(my personal fav))

Hope that helped.




I know what the 50/50 is but I am familiar with only coir/verm.

But in regards to what was posted earlier: " coir isn't recommended as a casing layer, especially for pans since they have a high tendency to overlay. 50/50+ would be best. " I was wondering what the 50/50+ mix was in this mix?

Sorry for the confusion

-Odd




If you read the 50/50+ tek, it says exactly what is in the mix and how much of it. All you gotta do is click the link and read:rolleyes:.


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