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 First Time - Hard to tell what I screwed up 
#619775 - 04/26/02 07:09 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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Okay, I am using the PF Tek guide, and two days ago I started. I only did five jars, since it was my first time, so if I screwed up, only half of them I screwed up on.
Anyways, I misread the Tek and punched the holes in the lid IN the rubber edge, instead of inside of the edge. I think I steamed them right, for an hour with one of those folding vegetable steamers that sit at the bottom of the pot. I let them chill for an hour afterwards, and when I was ready to inoculate them, the jars were sort of warm to the touch. I figured this would be okay, because the jars would be warm anyways under the heat lamp. (our house is cold so I set up a heat lamp with a thermometer, about 70 degrees).
Of course, I had to unscrew the lid bands to get to the holes, since the holes were in the rubber edge. When I tilted the needle back towards the center, the lids would slide over a bit, exposing the dry layer. I figured this wouldn't matter if the air didn't come into contact with the wet layer, since the PF Tek gives instructions on inoculating without the lid altogether.
When I got home the next night, there was no growth yet. I realized that maybe the jars need some darkness, so I wrapped paper around the jars. The jars are always a little warm to the touch.
I haven't been home tonight to check on them (it's Friday night, of course!), so maybe they have started to grow yet.
I know there are a lot of ifs and maybe's here, so I figured I'd post the story up and see if anyone more experienced can see any clear-cut problems I stupidly pulled off that can inhibit the growth. I'm really nervous about the whole deal, so any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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 Re: First Time - Hard to tell what I screwed up [Re: fireworks_god]
#619777 - 04/26/02 07:14 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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The lead singer of system of a down remind me of usama bin laden. sorry, i didn't read your post. but i will now, if i think of anything helpful i'll post it
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TheShroomHermit
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Re: First Time - Hard to tell what I screwed up [Re: fireworks_god]
#619799 - 04/26/02 07:32 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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don't punch holes in the rubber lid
steam for an house if in a pressure cooker
let the jars cool for a few hours, not 1
don't ever innoculate into warm jars
you tilt the needle toward the sides of the jars, not the center... so the jar can colonize on a 2D survace, go around the jar and then colonize inward.
you need more than a day for growth.
where was the tin foil, i must have missed it if you mentioned it.
I'd say PC 5 more jars right away, and follow the PF tek to the T ... my freind did and my freind is getting good results. If you go all out on this, your chances of suceeding go way up, but of course, if you aim for the ground, you'll be sure not to miss.
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Re: First Time - Hard to tell what I screwed up [Re: TheShroomHermit]
#619815 - 04/26/02 07:59 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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The only reason to not punch the holes in the rubber edge is because you have to take the screw on band thing off to get to it, since when the lid is turned upside down, it doesn't serve a purpose. It is very inconvient, but I don't think it could ruin the colony.
The warm jar thing could be a problem....
But when I said I tilted the needle toward the center, that means the top of the needle. The tip of the needle is pressed up agansit the lid to allow the solution to run down the sides...
I don't know anything about any tinfoil, the PF Tek never mentioned it. And, it never gave instructions about a pressure cooker, only the vegetable steamer.
Hopefully it is just taking a little bit, and I'm just paranoid.
Thanks for the help, anyone else?
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Re: First Time - Hard to tell what I screwed up [Re: fireworks_god]
#619819 - 04/26/02 08:05 PM (21 years, 7 months ago) |
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No, just me... and easy way to poke holes with a nail and hammer. But do it while the lid is still on the jar .. this way the rubber isn't exposed....
a word of encouragement: if no one ever made mistakes, no one would ever learn .. ( then again, if no one made mistakes, people would be perfect and therewould be no need to learn ... )
Edited by TheShroomHermit (04/26/02 08:08 PM)
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