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OfflineDivided_Sky
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"Stop thinking so much!"
    #6183143 - 10/18/06 06:04 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Has anybody else heard this? Personally it really annoys me. I can't remember how many times I've heard it or people say "stop over-analyzing!". All my life I have been constantly thinking and analyzing things and it has been pretty central to my personality. I am a very intellectual and verbal person and like to theorize, understand and conceptualize. It seems like most people believe that everybody by nature doesn't (and shouldn't) think very much and that if I am thinking alot it's because I forgot to flip this magical switch that turns thinking and analysis on and off. I really feel like other people don't really understand, and from my own perspective they may seem too impulsive, emotional or thoughtless. I don't know whose view I should accept.

At the same time they do have a point that my thoughts can create hangups and obsessions that really get in the way of things, or make it hard to relate to people because I am so absorbed introspectively. I don't know how to negotiate feeling confidant in my own identity and the change I need to make because it seems so many people can't understand where I am comming from and expect me to become a completely different person. They can't really relate and thus I don't know whether I really ought to listen. Moreover, even if I should listen, others lack of understanding makes it so that nobody can actually tell me how to go about not thinking as much.

Can anybody relate or help me understand this?


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Re: "Stop thinking so much!" [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #6183173 - 10/18/06 06:14 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Divided_Sky said:
They can't really relate and thus I don't know whether I really ought to listen. Moreover, even if I should listen, others lack of understanding makes it so that nobody can actually tell me how to go about not thinking as much.





Ha, I think I <3 you man, guy or gal. That was so well said. I understand 100% and the only solution I've found is new friends.


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Re: "Stop thinking so much!" [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #6183739 - 10/18/06 09:04 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I think that you're putting too much thought into this.  :smirk:


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Re: "Stop thinking so much!" [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #6183890 - 10/18/06 09:47 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

hehe, don't worry man - there's nothing to worry about lol
it just shows that your friends find themselves uncomforable with the difference between their personal ideas of you and who you actually are - imo this just makes you a more interesting person and they should just shut up and let you think! You are who you are, and why would you want to change that for anyone :smile:

and as fred sed, try approaching new and different people to be friends with. worst thing that could happen is you'll have another person you can talk to if you need some help around the place :wink:


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Re: "Stop thinking so much!" [Re: takk]
    #6184417 - 10/19/06 12:02 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

2 + 2 = 5


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Re: "Stop thinking so much!" [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #6184637 - 10/19/06 01:15 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

The next time someone says this to you tell them, "Stop feeling so much."


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Re: "Stop thinking so much!" [Re: zorbman]
    #6185283 - 10/19/06 09:12 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, I have heard this from many people my whole life. Then later, I realized that they were telling me something of innate wisdom.


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Re: "Stop thinking so much!" [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #6185304 - 10/19/06 09:26 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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I think that you're putting too much thought into this.  :smirk:




Heh. Sometimes this forum has threads that seem to be about the basic functions of life...this one falls into that category.

I think about it in terms of baseball (like I do so many other facets of life)...any baseball player will tell you they are accomplishing their greatest feats when they aren't thinking about them, when they've achieved a certain flow in their game and they go up to the plate really not thinking, just doing and reacting.

Thing is, of course, you get to that level only after a lot of struggling and thinking...it comes in waves...that's why baseball players, like human beings, are streaky.


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Re: "Stop thinking so much!" [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #6185338 - 10/19/06 09:52 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I can completely relate.  I guess it all boils down to my will to produce the best possible outcome when presented with a given situation.  My brain starts crunching away and sometimes I get caught up in that overanalytical whirlwind.  Sometimes it's healthy to completely wring something out, but most of the time go with your gut. :thumbup:


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Re: "Stop thinking so much!" [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #6185533 - 10/19/06 11:02 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I hear it a lot, too, and IMHO it's excellent advice. Most thoughts that go through our heads are absolutely useless and destructive. They batter us around, distort our perceptions and make bad decisions for us.

The mind, if left to its own devices, takes over, and (in my experience) prevents one from perceiving anything outside of one's head. You have to be aware of when the mind is babbling on and on (which is usually the 'default setting').

For example, when just meet someone and an impression of that person forms in your mind, ask yourself whether you are perceiving that person or merely perceiving your thoughts about them.

Think of the mind as powerful tool; one that you can pick up when you need to solve a problem with it, and put down when the job is done. Easier said than done, of course, but meditation practice is key to understanding how to do that.

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I don't know how to negotiate feeling confidant in my own identity and the change I need to make because it seems so many people can't understand where I am comming from and expect me to become a completely different person.




I've found that the less I think, the happier I am. Thoughts have the power to stress a person out at any time, when nothing actually even happened to them, they just thought about something needlessly.

I am a habitual overthinker, and I know that it's my greatest flaw.

Whether you need to think less or not depends on whether you are genuinely happy with yourself or your life. If you can feel deep contentment and still think as much as you do, then who gives a shit what other people say about thinking? Everyone is different, but I can tell you that people telling you to "not think so much" would not annoy you if you didn't think so much.


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Re: "Stop thinking so much!" [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #6187050 - 10/19/06 05:48 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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I am a habitual overthinker, and I know that it's my greatest flaw.





This is also true, so it's a double edged sword. You can say "fuck them" when they say that, but they are also right much of the time. Overthinking is not a good thing.


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Re: "Stop thinking so much!" [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #6187195 - 10/19/06 06:25 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

You cam also look into the possiblity if seeing a behavior therapist.

Stay away from the anti-depressants, mood-stabalizers, etc for a while though if they try those as a first response.


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Re: "Stop thinking so much!" [Re: mndfreeze]
    #6187415 - 10/19/06 07:42 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Einstein was an 'over-thinker'. In other words, he was able to analyze things and put alot of energy into doing so.


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Re: "Stop thinking so much!" [Re: The_Hobbit]
    #6188015 - 10/19/06 10:59 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

id rather think too much than not enough. it has more stress, but gives you knowledge of self. I see non-thinkers as lazy.


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Re: "Stop thinking so much!" [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #6188034 - 10/19/06 11:06 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Wow. I can't understand why any of you would think that thinking is a negative trait. It also gets under my skin to hear someone say 'stop thinking so much'. When I hear that from someone it shocks me. I can't believe anyone could consider not thinking a positive thing.

Divided_Sky, please keep in mind that while you may feel introverted all of the time, it may just be that you have no real intellectual equals surrounding you in your real life. Your friends may just alienate you somewhat and try to negate the value of your mind because of their own subconscious feelings of inadequacy. This is especially true if you display your intelligence too much.


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Re: "Stop thinking so much!" [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #6188035 - 10/19/06 11:06 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

There should be no limits to thought. The brain is rather heavy, and we do carry it around on our necks all the time, so we should at least use it.

I think sometimes people who say this should really be saying don't worry so much. But if they admit they really prefer to limit their thinking, that is an excellent opportunity for you to reconsider spending your time with them.


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Re: "Stop thinking so much!" [Re: The_Hobbit]
    #6188040 - 10/19/06 11:08 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Please note I did not say nor believe there is something wrong with overthinkers. The problem only arises when it cripplies your daily function. I suggested behavior therapy more to learn to cope and handle how you go about it, and look at it, then to dumb it down as a bad trait.


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Re: "Stop thinking so much!" [Re: kotik]
    #6188083 - 10/19/06 11:15 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

:thumbup:kotik, I totally agree.  I even think that an individual's level of intelligence may, to some degree, correspond to unhappiness and certainly loneliness if that individual cannot find adequate intellectual peers.

Oh, and by the way, please do not assume by my posts in this thread, that I think of myself as intellectually superior to others.


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Re: "Stop thinking so much!" [Re: mndfreeze]
    #6188128 - 10/19/06 11:24 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

OK mndfreeze. For a second I thought you were 'one of them'. I totally agree with your attitude towards using anti-depressants and similar drugs to deal with this issue. I am wary of taking a drug that affects my mind for an extended amount of time. I will take psychedelics, but I would not want to be in that altered state all of my waking day for the rest of my life (or any substantial part of it for that matter).


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Re: "Stop thinking so much!" [Re: absinthe_tek]
    #6188175 - 10/19/06 11:31 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

in defense of the "stop thinking so much" statement, it does have it's time and place.  for instance, sometimes you have to free your mind, because it gets so full of clutter and unfinished thoughts, that it's a good thing to just "stop thinking"  Everyone at one time or another had something at the tip of their tongue, but didn't remember it until a few hours later, when it was the farthest from your mind.  In this case, it's not really a lack of thinking, rather the mental processes moved to the subconcious, where things are done more efficiently.  :smile:

but obviously, certain people say it at inappropriate times.  just take pity on them and don't take it personal  :smile:


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