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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #6181883 - 10/18/06 10:06 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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Burke Dennings said:
The Manson Caves?




Could someone please explain to me what the "Manson Caves" are?


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #6181947 - 10/18/06 10:22 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Aren't they the caves in the desert that they were going to live in until helter skelter the war was done. In the Death Valley desert  I think.


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: blackroselove]
    #6181949 - 10/18/06 10:23 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I thought they lived at the Spahn Ranch? I don't know much about this.


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #6181964 - 10/18/06 10:28 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Google + Manson Caves = your answer.


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #6181969 - 10/18/06 10:29 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I don't believe there are any "Manson Caves", whatever that is. I found this passage, but it doesn't indicate the existence of any caves:

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He told his followers that this was imminent, but that there was a secret underground world reached by a hole underneath the desert, where they would wait out the war in bliss. He described this many times, and it was a part of their communal belief, so much so that they stocked up supplies and searched for the hole prior to the crimes.




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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #6181978 - 10/18/06 10:31 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

They did. See what helter skelter is the war between the blacks and the whites. Charlie believed that the blacks would raise up against the white, and defeat them in some war. Then when this war was done, he was going to come to them, and they were going to make him their leader because they don't know what to do, being slaves all their lives and such. Andy way those caves was were they were going to hid until it was all done. But yes, you're right, they did live on the ranch.


***disclaimer**I don't believe any of this so no personal attacks, thanks.


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: blackroselove]
    #6181988 - 10/18/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

But where are the caves?


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: blackroselove]
    #6181989 - 10/18/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Weren't the caves the entrances to the "holes to an underground world" ??


Maybe I'm wrong.


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #6182005 - 10/18/06 10:38 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I was wrong!! One second...


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: blackroselove]
    #6182011 - 10/18/06 10:39 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I have been in several caves, and I suppose they are proverbial "underground worlds", in a sense.

I musta misread something- when I think "underground world", I think of all those people in the Matrix that lived in that subterranean city.


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #6182051 - 10/18/06 10:52 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Charles Manson [Re: blackroselove]
    #6182061 - 10/18/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

No specific locations though.


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #6182073 - 10/18/06 10:58 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I'm going to go take a nap, it's been a long night. then I'll look more in to it.


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: carshissbymywinda]
    #6182113 - 10/18/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm surprised at how many musicians respect him and the message he was trying to get across, System Of A Down's song ATWA is about Manson, Mushroomhead have a song about him and I forget who else does.
I think he's intelligent but I don't agree with everything he says or does.






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Re: Charles Manson [Re: carshissbymywinda]
    #6182181 - 10/18/06 11:27 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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Up until a while ago I knew nothing about Charles Manson, all I knew was that people thought he was crazy.
So a few months ago I decided to research him.
Honestly I can't see him ever being let out of prison. A lot of people feel he is responsible for the murders he didn't commit, they feel he brainwashed the teenagers into doing it for him.
I don't think it would be weird if he was let out and got a job, it might be the best thing for him, as far as I know he's never worked a day in his life, maybe that's his problem :smirk:
I don't know what his exact charges are but there are lots of good websites with accurate information.
He claims he hasn't murdered anyone but he also has a different view on murder than most people.
I'm surprised at how many musicians respect him and the message he was trying to get across, System Of A Down's song ATWA is about Manson, Mushroomhead have a song about him and I forget who else does.
I think he's intelligent but I don't agree with everything he says or does.




Technically, Bin Laden didn't kill anyone on 9/11.

I'm sure this will strike home with you folks more, though. George W. Bush hasn't killed anyone himself, either. So why the condemnations?


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Redstorm]
    #6182659 - 10/18/06 01:21 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Letters to Manson and Manson's Responses:

Mr. Manson, Greetings. My name is (name deleted) and I publish an anarchist magazine called (name deleted). I would like to interview you for an upcoming issue. We could do it through the mail or I could come to you. If you are interested, contact me. I hope to hear from you. (Signed)

Manson's response: Anarchists don't help order. Most anarchists are people who don't fit. I'm one of them that don't fit and would like the freedom it gives to be an anarchist. But it sure won't help ATWA. Only the aware and fit can survive, but that's not good for trees, wildlife, and life in general. We must have ORDER if earth is to survive is one way of looking at it, and earth will survive anyway. Either way, we each see it as it is best for our center. My center is ATWA.


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