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Charles Manson
    #6178889 - 10/17/06 02:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Will Charles Manson ever be freed from jail in his lifetime?
How wierd would it be if he was freed and had to get a job.
Also, what exactly is mason charged of, because I heard that he is completely innocent and that he did not know that murders were being carried out in his name, I don't think he has killed anyone himself?

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Re: Charles Manson [Re: stickyicky13]
    #6178896 - 10/17/06 02:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

google it

no he will never be released

his parole hearings make for great tv


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: stickyicky13]
    #6178906 - 10/17/06 02:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, i don't think he actually killed anyone himself.
Well... he got people to kill some other people but a person like manson may have killed someone himself.


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: stickyicky13]
    #6178938 - 10/17/06 02:39 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i met a guy in LA county jail that met manson in prison and smoked a joint with him.
he was saying that the parole board was corrupted and were never going to let him out. also that at one time the votes sided in his favor and then it was recalled or some shit and they kept him in jail. so now he just talks shit to the parole board when he sees them.

hey can any one get a map of the manson caves?? i live close to one opening in chatswerth park here in san fernando.


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: LosAngelesGraff]
    #6178948 - 10/17/06 02:41 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Manson has the same birthday as Neil Young and me. Found that out yesterday.


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: LosAngelesGraff]
    #6178949 - 10/17/06 02:41 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

The Manson Caves?

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Re: Charles Manson [Re: DistortedEyes]
    #6178954 - 10/17/06 02:42 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Well, he has never been convicted of killing anyone himself, but there is speculation that he did. I can't remember exact details because it's been 10 years or so since I have read about that stuff.

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Re: Charles Manson [Re: LosAngelesGraff]
    #6179022 - 10/17/06 02:59 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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i met a guy in LA county jail that met manson in prison and smoked a joint with him.
he was saying that the parole board was corrupted and were never going to let him out. also that at one time the votes sided in his favor and then it was recalled or some shit and they kept him in jail. so now he just talks shit to the parole board when he sees them.

hey can any one get a map of the manson caves?? i live close to one opening in chatswerth park here in san fernando.




I call bullshit

Manson isn't in gen pop... in fact, he has no contact with other inmates


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Jim]
    #6179298 - 10/17/06 04:05 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

And how did he smoke a joint with him?


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: stickyicky13]
    #6179623 - 10/17/06 05:20 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Manson to this day says that if he was free, and had the chance he would do the same thing again. Read up on it, from as many differant sources as you can. Its still hard to wrap your head around the whole situation.


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Dreamer987]
    #6179637 - 10/17/06 05:26 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I read that when asked what he would do if he was free he said "I am free."

Thata Manson.

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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #6179647 - 10/17/06 05:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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And how did he smoke a joint with him?




youve never been to jail :smirk:


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #6179657 - 10/17/06 05:29 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

you think its impossible to get pot in jail sweet cheeks?


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: stickyicky13]
    #6179659 - 10/17/06 05:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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stickyicky13 said:
Will Charles Manson ever be freed from jail in his lifetime?




manson doesnt want to be released

"what makes you think theres no sex in prison?" -Charles Manson

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I heard that he is completely innocent




no one is innocent, everyone in prison is innocent

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Re: Charles Manson [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #6179759 - 10/17/06 05:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Jails are full of drugs. Inmates trade their food, sex or money (they get paid I think?) for drugs which are snuck in, sometimes by guards.

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Re: Charles Manson [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #6179814 - 10/17/06 06:08 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

Penguarky Tunguin said:
And how did he smoke a joint with him?




youve never been to jail :smirk:





You make it sound like that's a bad thing...  :crazy:


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #6179826 - 10/17/06 06:11 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

BIGSWANG said:
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Penguarky Tunguin said:
And how did he smoke a joint with him?




youve never been to jail :smirk:





You make it sound like that's a bad thing...  :crazy:




no...just pointing out youve never been....

dont go to jail..it sucks...


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: stickyicky13]
    #6181682 - 10/18/06 09:10 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

.

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Re: Charles Manson [Re: carshissbymywinda]
    #6181699 - 10/18/06 09:15 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I'm a big fan of the quote "Believe me, if I started murdering people, there'd be none of you left."


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Jim]
    #6181717 - 10/18/06 09:21 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Jim said:
Quote:

LosAngelesGraff said:
i met a guy in LA county jail that met manson in prison and smoked a joint with him.
he was saying that the parole board was corrupted and were never going to let him out. also that at one time the votes sided in his favor and then it was recalled or some shit and they kept him in jail. so now he just talks shit to the parole board when he sees them.

hey can any one get a map of the manson caves?? i live close to one opening in chatswerth park here in san fernando.




I call bullshit

Manson isn't in gen pop...  in fact, he has no contact with other inmates





He used to,atleast. I remember reading when one guy set him on fire "because god told him to"

I've read allot about him in my younger days.

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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #6181883 - 10/18/06 10:06 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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The Manson Caves?




Could someone please explain to me what the "Manson Caves" are?

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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #6181947 - 10/18/06 10:22 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Aren't they the caves in the desert that they were going to live in until helter skelter the war was done. In the Death Valley desert  I think.


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: blackroselove]
    #6181949 - 10/18/06 10:23 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I thought they lived at the Spahn Ranch? I don't know much about this.

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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #6181964 - 10/18/06 10:28 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Google + Manson Caves = your answer.


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #6181969 - 10/18/06 10:29 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I don't believe there are any "Manson Caves", whatever that is. I found this passage, but it doesn't indicate the existence of any caves:

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He told his followers that this was imminent, but that there was a secret underground world reached by a hole underneath the desert, where they would wait out the war in bliss. He described this many times, and it was a part of their communal belief, so much so that they stocked up supplies and searched for the hole prior to the crimes.



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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #6181978 - 10/18/06 10:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

They did. See what helter skelter is the war between the blacks and the whites. Charlie believed that the blacks would raise up against the white, and defeat them in some war. Then when this war was done, he was going to come to them, and they were going to make him their leader because they don't know what to do, being slaves all their lives and such. Andy way those caves was were they were going to hid until it was all done. But yes, you're right, they did live on the ranch.


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: blackroselove]
    #6181988 - 10/18/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

But where are the caves?

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Re: Charles Manson [Re: blackroselove]
    #6181989 - 10/18/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Weren't the caves the entrances to the "holes to an underground world" ??


Maybe I'm wrong.


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #6182005 - 10/18/06 10:38 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I was wrong!! One second...


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: blackroselove]
    #6182011 - 10/18/06 10:39 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I have been in several caves, and I suppose they are proverbial "underground worlds", in a sense.

I musta misread something- when I think "underground world", I think of all those people in the Matrix that lived in that subterranean city.

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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #6182051 - 10/18/06 10:52 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Charles Manson [Re: blackroselove]
    #6182061 - 10/18/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

No specific locations though.

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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #6182073 - 10/18/06 10:58 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I'm going to go take a nap, it's been a long night. then I'll look more in to it.


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Re: Charles Manson [Re: carshissbymywinda]
    #6182113 - 10/18/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm surprised at how many musicians respect him and the message he was trying to get across, System Of A Down's song ATWA is about Manson, Mushroomhead have a song about him and I forget who else does.
I think he's intelligent but I don't agree with everything he says or does.






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Re: Charles Manson [Re: carshissbymywinda]
    #6182181 - 10/18/06 11:27 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Up until a while ago I knew nothing about Charles Manson, all I knew was that people thought he was crazy.
So a few months ago I decided to research him.
Honestly I can't see him ever being let out of prison. A lot of people feel he is responsible for the murders he didn't commit, they feel he brainwashed the teenagers into doing it for him.
I don't think it would be weird if he was let out and got a job, it might be the best thing for him, as far as I know he's never worked a day in his life, maybe that's his problem :smirk:
I don't know what his exact charges are but there are lots of good websites with accurate information.
He claims he hasn't murdered anyone but he also has a different view on murder than most people.
I'm surprised at how many musicians respect him and the message he was trying to get across, System Of A Down's song ATWA is about Manson, Mushroomhead have a song about him and I forget who else does.
I think he's intelligent but I don't agree with everything he says or does.




Technically, Bin Laden didn't kill anyone on 9/11.

I'm sure this will strike home with you folks more, though. George W. Bush hasn't killed anyone himself, either. So why the condemnations?

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Re: Charles Manson [Re: Redstorm]
    #6182659 - 10/18/06 01:21 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Letters to Manson and Manson's Responses:

Mr. Manson, Greetings. My name is (name deleted) and I publish an anarchist magazine called (name deleted). I would like to interview you for an upcoming issue. We could do it through the mail or I could come to you. If you are interested, contact me. I hope to hear from you. (Signed)

Manson's response: Anarchists don't help order. Most anarchists are people who don't fit. I'm one of them that don't fit and would like the freedom it gives to be an anarchist. But it sure won't help ATWA. Only the aware and fit can survive, but that's not good for trees, wildlife, and life in general. We must have ORDER if earth is to survive is one way of looking at it, and earth will survive anyway. Either way, we each see it as it is best for our center. My center is ATWA.


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