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Re: The Gaia Hypothesis, evolutionary morality and the next step [Re: TrippinNinjaBuddha]
    #6181169 - 10/18/06 01:38 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I like this theory. Ethics and morality is something inevitable if a population grows above a certain number and has to cooperate to avoid extinction. Spirituality comes from recognizing our/its/their own existence, imho. So yes, the complexity grows and creates spirituality and morality. However the cancer starts in society, more specifically: This society, which supresses our spirituality, and regress into devolution by forcing its people to work hard to consume everything in its way, brainwash them into thinking its the right way to evolution or progress. The thing is that we have split ourselves up, divided ourselves, conquered ourselves...because we think, somehow, it'll fix itself.

It wont. We'll suddenly wake up and realize ... but that won't be enough ... we have to actually *realize*, i.e. make the awakening *real*, and not just press "snooze" and go back to sleep for another decade. We as a population, as a whole, must wake up, and force ourselves to go to actual work. Which is whatever which will sustain and clean up the mess we've made of this planet.

Its another page in the book, yes, but the turning point is about to come along and no matter how sad and exhausting the book is, we will be unable to put it down if we want to save ourselves - as a population, or as a planet, or as a consciousness. Peace :smile:


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Re: The Gaia Hypothesis, evolutionary morality and the next step [Re: niteowl]
    #6185133 - 10/19/06 05:05 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I like this thread.

If God exists, it must be as the collective consciousness, in this theory, like the collective cells in our bodies make up our consciousness as a whole, so must it be for the CONTAINER (I didn't say creator, seeing as something might be bigger than God itself which might also live in a universe of immense size and complexity in comparison to God itself) which this universe is a part of, or exist within.

I think its very likely that our universe is a tiny fraction of a much bigger being than we can possibly imagine, and that this being again is just a tiny fraction of his universe which is again a tiny fraction in a much much bigger being ... and so on ... forever.

God ... I'm stoned. :smile:

Edit: I forgot what half of the thread was about.

The appearant whims of mutation, I suspect could be viewed as a lot of different things. Randomness. Inspiration. Will. Intent. But I'd like to apply my two cents and try to flip it all on its head.

Bear with me now:

You are the center of all universes. Ok? Check.
You are the one. The one true God. You have existed forever, and will live forever, and everything is your creation, which you deliberately forget, in order to discover yourself over and over, in an eternity of different plays, universes, universal laws, you name it. OK? CHECK.

Now, if you have allways existed, what we see as evolution must be an illusion. Now consider this: Life started at *this exact moment*, and I'm not talking about now being now being now, and that everything has always been now. No I'm saying that this second in time&space - you created all of history, and all of the future. Seeing as history now, by this definition, works backwards from your viewpoint in consciousness - you don't descend from apes, the apes descend from your consciousness splitting itself up into pieces and arranged in a chronological line creating an (if you may) illusion of time which really never happened - but must have happened, for you to even be here. Hence creating the illusion of existence itself.

Now consider this happening perpetually, constantly, always, every nanosecond, every blink of an eye, everytime you open a door, everytime you take a step, and everytime everytime always and forever.

The more you look, the more you find. The bigger it gets.

You get smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller.

The further you see, the more you find. The bigger it gets.

You get smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller.

I dug a hole on this one, yeah.

Emm...Yeah...now I remember: The point being that it is random, and that it is by inspiration and more specifically self-delusion, hiding from our true selves, the more difficult you as God is to find, the more exiting it gets.

So you plan
to be as random
as you can.

:crazy2: :smirk:


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Re: The Gaia Hypothesis, evolutionary morality and the next step [Re: Moonshoe]
    #6196606 - 10/22/06 04:21 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Haha, I just realized we have a free will, but it only works if you choose the right one together.

Slack is the only free will, hahaha. Sounds lame. Hm. Jesus.

The more you stray from the will of the planet, in this theory, the more free will you "use". If your intention is the same as the planets, you kind of uses your free will, but you chose the will of the community, rather than your own will, so in reality you would be using the free will of Gaia instead of your own.

Ahem.

This brings back all these wicked memories about reading about Lucifers will to be himself, and God wanting life to live for all life.

I'm off my tits stoned, right now.

Anyway, the reason it only works if you choose the will of Gaia, is because your will is a collectively destructive one. Sustaining isn't our will. Our will is a purely destructive one. Not by nature. By spirit. Haha.

Quote:


Saturn ascends, choose one or ten. hang on or be humbled again.

Clutch it like a cornerstone. otherwise it all comes down.
Justify denials and grip it to the lonesome end.
Saturn ascends, comes round again.
Saturn ascends, the one, the ten. ignorant to the damage done.





Hmm...what to pick, what to pick...

:2cents:


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