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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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InvisibleIcelander
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Re: The Gaia Hypothesis, evolutionary morality and the next step [Re: Moonshoe]
    #6178142 - 10/17/06 11:03 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Firstly, it means that anyone who denies morality utterly, denies his evolutionary heritage and voluntary reduces himself to the level of the lower mammal, the reptile.

Ya think? I deny morality. Oops! :monkeydance:

Well, maybe it depends on what you mean by morality? :wink:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


Edited by Icelander (10/17/06 11:19 AM)


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Re: The Gaia Hypothesis, evolutionary morality and the next step [Re: Icelander]
    #6178149 - 10/17/06 11:05 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I do think parts of this hypothesis may be valid though. :wink:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: The Gaia Hypothesis, evolutionary morality and the next step [Re: Maitereya]
    #6178665 - 10/17/06 01:32 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I think if we used the word ethics instead of morality, (as in personal ethics) I wouldn't get edgy about this discussion


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: The Gaia Hypothesis, evolutionary morality and the next step [Re: Silversoul]
    #6180314 - 10/17/06 08:19 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

My question would be, is earth conscious in a way that we can relate to.

I have read about the way cells connect to form more complex systems. I have sat on a mountain side on five grams of shrooms and looked down on the interconnecting lights of the city miles away and been reminded of this. Could the earth be using us to form a more complex consciousness for herself?  Me sits and me wonders. :cool:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: The Gaia Hypothesis, evolutionary morality and the next step [Re: TameMe]
    #6180373 - 10/17/06 08:34 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

It would be unlikely that the earth would be aware in exactly the same way we are. Still I would hope for some similarities. She must, I think, be of a higher order than man. Lets hope so for her sake. :wink:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: The Gaia Hypothesis, evolutionary morality and the next step [Re: slaphappy]
    #6185489 - 10/19/06 08:51 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

:grin: :wink: Just as likely as anything else as far as I can fathom.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: The Gaia Hypothesis, evolutionary morality and the next step [Re: niteowl]
    #6185498 - 10/19/06 08:53 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Every time you feel Gods presence......it is really just the Gaia spirit talking to you.

This is my gut feeling. Especially fits in with my solo trips on the mountainside.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: The Gaia Hypothesis, evolutionary morality and the next step [Re: Moonshoe]
    #6186143 - 10/19/06 12:03 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

. We have finally reached adulthood.

Whos we? :wink: I hardly ever come across a human who has reached adulthood.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: The Gaia Hypothesis, evolutionary morality and the next step [Re: Moonshoe]
    #6186299 - 10/19/06 12:47 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

That's one of my possible explanations. :wink:

I have others on all sides.

Moshe Feldenkrais said that if you have many ideas, you will have good ideas. :wink:

We may not know which is most correct in this case. :confused:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: The Gaia Hypothesis, evolutionary morality and the next step [Re: Lion]
    #6186453 - 10/19/06 01:23 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Very cool ideas. I'm not too qualified to delve into them completely. Veritas I hope will chime in here.

This harkens back to the post I made about experience. Play,and connection are powerful experience and I feel the loss of much of it in modern life. I think that's why I connected with Burning Man so powerfully. It combined technology with play. There was an amazing amount of "work" involved in building that city in one week. (The U.S. Military studied BM for desert warfare :tongue:) Yet it was a gifting community and it turned into a loving playground. Not perfect but a step forward in human interacting in American culture.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: The Gaia Hypothesis, evolutionary morality and the next step [Re: Lion]
    #6187044 - 10/19/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Isn't that like asking what's the meaning of life? Nobody can answer such questions with certainty.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: The Gaia Hypothesis, evolutionary morality and the next step [Re: Lion]
    #6187141 - 10/19/06 04:11 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not sure they brushed it off as much as finding they have no way to address it.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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