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Re: Muslim Taxi Drivers Refuse To Transport Alcohol [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6168529 - 10/14/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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No, Redstorm, that is specificly disallowed as a condition of having a hack license. Specificly and clearly and for damn good reason.




incorrect, cabbies have the right to refuse service to any one for any reason
it does cut into their income though, the only requirements for a taxi permit
is no criminal record and no DUI in the last 5 years

please show a a link to a credible source proving otherwise, after all that is
what people in PA&L require

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Re: Muslim Taxi Drivers Refuse To Transport Alcohol [Re: Diploid]
    #6168539 - 10/14/06 10:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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It's a regulated industry. It's regulated for the good of the public. The best interests of the public are served by requiring taxis service everyone equally.




resturants are regulated and refuse service to the shirtless and shoeless.

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Re: Muslim Taxi Drivers Refuse To Transport Alcohol [Re: Seuss]
    #6168544 - 10/14/06 10:37 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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what about a store owner that refuses service to people that don't speak English?





this is actualy happening as of late

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Re: Muslim Taxi Drivers Refuse To Transport Alcohol [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6168611 - 10/14/06 11:02 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

resturants are regulated and refuse service to the shirtless and shoeless.

The the number of restaurants is not limited by regulation. That's the point. There are only a finite number of taxis and that number doesn't go up often. Same as liquor licenses.

If taxis were unregulated, I'd agree with you, but they're given a competitive advantage by regulations that limit the total number of competitors. Based on this, they should be required to serve the public without discriminating against law-abiding citizens.


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Re: Muslim Taxi Drivers Refuse To Transport Alcohol [Re: Diploid]
    #6168678 - 10/14/06 11:19 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

my experience as a cab driver says you're wrong, there are no limits on the numbers of liquor licenses nor on cab permits, they do have limitations on location, ie not within 1000 feet of a church or school, etc

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Re: Muslim Taxi Drivers Refuse To Transport Alcohol [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6168703 - 10/14/06 11:27 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

my experience as a cab driver says you're wrong, there are no limits on the numbers of liquor licenses nor on cab permits

You can't just buy a car, paint some prices on the window, and become a taxi. You have to purchase one of the limited pool of available licenses (called medallions) from another taxi driver or participate in a lottery when the government issues new ones based on population growth.


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4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Muslim Taxi Drivers Refuse To Transport Alcohol [Re: Diploid]
    #6168810 - 10/14/06 11:53 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Muslim taxi drivers are spies and terrorists both. Death to them all.
They hate our perfidious ways yet so readily adapt them. Fuck them.
I have said my peace.


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Re: Muslim Taxi Drivers Refuse To Transport Alcohol [Re: Diploid]
    #6168816 - 10/14/06 11:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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my experience as a cab driver says you're wrong, there are no limits on the numbers of liquor licenses nor on cab permits

You can't just buy a car, paint some prices on the window, and become a taxi. You have to purchase one of the limited pool of available licenses from another taxi driver or participate in a lottery when the government issues new ones based on population growth.




medallions buddy, I inherited my uncles cab. I don't drivwe tho.  :shrug:

or spell for that matter.


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Re: Muslim Taxi Drivers Refuse To Transport Alcohol [Re: Diploid]
    #6169168 - 10/14/06 02:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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my experience as a cab driver says you're wrong, there are no limits on the numbers of liquor licenses nor on cab permits

You can't just buy a car, paint some prices on the window, and become a taxi. You have to purchase one of the limited pool of available licenses (called medallions) from another taxi driver or participate in a lottery when the government issues new ones based on population growth.





in Georgia, you buy a car, get a phone, some business cards, decals and go down
to the administration building to get a taxi permit, they've started putting
restrictions on the age of the cars, currently it's no older than 12 years

regardless, any cab driver can refuse to transport anyone for any reason there
is no regulation that overrides ones personal safety, if there was more cabbies
would be getting shot by picking up those sketchy fuckers

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Re: Muslim Taxi Drivers Refuse To Transport Alcohol [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6169203 - 10/14/06 02:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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in Georgia, you buy a car, get a phone, some business cards, decals and go down
to the administration building to get a taxi permit, they've started putting
restrictions on the age of the cars, currently it's no older than 12 years




Minnesota is not Georgia.

Furthermore, in every North American city I have EVER flown into (admittedly I have yet to fly into a city in Georgia), not all taxis are allowed to pick up passengers at the main airport. The airport concession is almost always a municipally granted monoply of a subset of taxi-owners in the city in question. In order to obtain this monopoly, said taxi owners must agree to more stringent licencing conditions than the run of the mill taxi driver.

Could a taxi driver have a rational reason for refusing to carry a passenger clutching an open bottle of alcohol? You bet! But what rational reason would he have for not transporting a guy who had an unopened bottle of Remy Martin purchased as a gift for his boss in an airport Duty Free shop -- especially when that bottle is stashed in the trunk of the cab with the rest of his luggage?



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Re: Muslim Taxi Drivers Refuse To Transport Alcohol [Re: quiver]
    #6169238 - 10/14/06 03:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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so if i had a bottle of wine in a brown paper bag for dinner theyd have to ask and see it to know if it was alcohol wouldnt they?
say i had a bottle of coke in a grocery bag,they'd want to know if it was alcohol?
then if i told them it was none of there fucking business theyd refuse me because of suspicion?

this is a form of racism and should be stomped out

yes stomped




Since when are alcoholics a race? Are they related to the Homunculus Trollus?


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Re: Muslim Taxi Drivers Refuse To Transport Alcohol [Re: Phred]
    #6169292 - 10/14/06 03:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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in Georgia, you buy a car, get a phone, some business cards, decals and go down
to the administration building to get a taxi permit, they've started putting
restrictions on the age of the cars, currently it's no older than 12 years




Minnesota is not Georgia.




of course not I was just expressing that these regulations are not the same across the nation

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In order to obtain this monopoly, said taxi owners must agree to more stringent licencing conditions than the run of the mill taxi driver.




it works the same in atlanta, you do need a permit endorsement to sit at the
airport and wait on fares but not for picking up fares by appointment or those
that have called a specific company, as unusual as it seems that does happen
quite often, I've also scooped up loads of fares as I was dropping off passengers.


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But what rational reason would he have for not transporting a guy who had an unopened bottle of Remy Martin purchased as a gift for his boss in an airport Duty Free shop -- especially when that bottle is stashed in the trunk of the cab with the rest of his luggage?




that's where I'm dumbfounded, most cabbies I've known wouldnt pass up a fare
unless they just felt uneasy about the guy, regardless tuning down fares builds
a bad reputation for the company when it's based on something as trivial as
alcohol, of course it could be a muslim conspiracy to put the company out of
business :smirk:

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Re: Muslim Taxi Drivers Refuse To Transport Alcohol [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6169848 - 10/14/06 07:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

They shouldnt be allowed to choose. If you have to go a short distance, you should not have to walk because all the Taxi's want long rides to make it worth their while.


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Re: Muslim Taxi Drivers Refuse To Transport Alcohol [Re: tak]
    #6170375 - 10/14/06 11:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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They shouldnt be allowed to choose. If you have to go a short distance, you should not have to walk because all the Taxi's want long rides to make it worth their while.




Great attitude. Should shop-keepers not be allowed to roust drunks? Like it or not, any non-government (funded) business in the country is allowed to decline you service. For any or no reason.


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Re: Muslim Taxi Drivers Refuse To Transport Alcohol [Re: Diploid]
    #6170897 - 10/15/06 03:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

fuck you

who do you think you are flaming me then warning me for the same fucking thing?

you gronk


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Re: Muslim Taxi Drivers Refuse To Transport Alcohol [Re: unbeliever]
    #6170899 - 10/15/06 03:26 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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unbeliever said:
Quote:

quiver said:
so if i had a bottle of wine in a brown paper bag for dinner theyd have to ask and see it to know if it was alcohol wouldnt they?
say i had a bottle of coke in a grocery bag,they'd want to know if it was alcohol?
then if i told them it was none of there fucking business theyd refuse me because of suspicion?

this is a form of racism and should be stomped out

yes stomped




Since when are alcoholics a race? Are they related to the Homunculus Trollus?




since non drinking fanatical moslems started knitpicking


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Re: Muslim Taxi Drivers Refuse To Transport Alcohol [Re: quiver]
    #6170902 - 10/15/06 03:33 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Banned again.

You'd best think long and hard before you make your next post in this forum.





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Re: Muslim Taxi Drivers Refuse To Transport Alcohol [Re: Phred]
    #6171011 - 10/15/06 06:11 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Back on topic...

Should a private business be allowed to refuse service?

Example: I run a restaurant and want to enforce a dress code restricting casual dress. Why should I have to serve somebody that hasn't bathed in three weeks?

Example: I run a computer store and have found that I loose money when selling computers to non-computer-literate people because of the amount of post-sell support I end up providing. Why can I not choose to only sell computers to computer nerds?

Example: I own a private hospital. Sorry about that GSW (gunshot wound), be we don't allow whitey's here. There is a perfectly good public hospital only ten miles across town. Good luck!

Example: I own a private airline and we won't transport women that are menstruating, because they are unclean, which is against my faith.


This is a really hard question and I have not been able to come up with a good answer. As a private owner, I should have the right to run my business however I like. At the same time, why should I be allowed to discriminate just because I am a private owner; the store/taxi/restaurant/etc serves the public and should be required to service the public equally.


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Re: Muslim Taxi Drivers Refuse To Transport Alcohol [Re: tak]
    #6171015 - 10/15/06 06:21 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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root-ninja-tak said:
They shouldnt be allowed to choose.




Why


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Re: Muslim Taxi Drivers Refuse To Transport Alcohol [Re: Basilides]
    #6171082 - 10/15/06 08:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I keep saying this, but nobody gets it.

The reason is because taxis are a regulated business. In free competition, businesses should be allowed to do whatever they want, but in a regulated industry, especially one like taxis where there are regulation-limited choices, and regulation-mediated protection from competition, they should be required to service the public in a uniform fashion.

Same goes for a private power utility and for the same reason. They have a granted monopoly. If they decide, as a private company, to shut down electricity to all non-Muslims, should regulations have something to say about that? Of course.

Same for taxis which have a granted partial monopoly.


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