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Black Contam *UPDATE*
    #6159584 - 10/11/06 09:49 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

allright i never got to take a picture but ill tell you about it, one of my PF jars got this wierd black stain like thing in side while it was colonizing (maybe 25%) and i took it out of my icubator and also put into a ziplock bag and for got about it (this was about a month ago) i found it to day and its 100% colonized and has two pins. should i Birth this(in seprate fc of course)? :confused:


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Re: Should I Birth? [Re: MycoKris]
    #6159607 - 10/11/06 09:55 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Hell yes.


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Re: Should I Birth? [Re: Westnile]
    #6159611 - 10/11/06 09:57 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

also what could the black stain lookin thing have been?


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Re: Should I Birth? [Re: MycoKris]
    #6159648 - 10/11/06 10:06 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

COULD have been a contam.


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Re: Should I Birth? [Re: Westnile]
    #6159715 - 10/11/06 10:25 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

so if the myc covers it, the cake is allright?


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Re: Should I Birth? [Re: MycoKris]
    #6159757 - 10/11/06 10:32 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Prolly. :wink:


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Re: Should I Birth? [Re: Westnile]
    #6159784 - 10/11/06 10:38 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I wouldn't risk it. Its just one cake. Just start a new one.


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Re: Should I Birth? [Re: davesj1]
    #6159797 - 10/11/06 10:40 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Do it obviously the myc is strong and resisted it. Theres no harm in trying.


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Re: Should I Birth? [Re: MycoKris]
    #6159812 - 10/11/06 10:44 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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so if the myc covers it, the cake is allright?




In most cases, yes, you'll be okay if the contaminate is no longer present. I have had spawn bags that I would have thrown out because I caught a speck of trich (green mold), but I waited to see what happened. The mycelium consumed the competing organism and won the battle. I easily got through 4 flushes without a single incident.

You should always wait and see what happens before you start chucking your hard work.


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Re: Should I Birth? [Re: Wronguy]
    #6159831 - 10/11/06 10:48 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Thank You


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Re: Black Contam [Re: MycoKris]
    #6161063 - 10/12/06 07:33 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I'm no expert at this, but black mold can be such bad news that you'd best throw it out, rather than clean it out.

Black mold can be a variety of Aspergillus, and some of these are endowed with insidious toxins, exposure to which may pass virtually unnoticed, but may cause cancer later in life.

These toxins can be so stable chemically that I can see them being absorbed by mycelium and being present in the resulting mushrooms themselves.

If you are in need of genetics you could let the mycelium sporulate and use the spores for starting a fresh culture. If there is no such need, throw it out.


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Re: Black Contam [Re: Asante]
    #6164910 - 10/13/06 09:53 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

*UPDATE*

Took cake out of jar using face mask and stuff, cut in half saw no black made a weak H2O2 in dunking containor and put both halves in it and its now fizzing.


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Re: Black Contam [Re: MycoKris]
    #6165077 - 10/13/06 11:17 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

The mold is still there. You should toss it out. It's better to make up a dozen or more jars when you do. It increases your chances of a few successes, and also speeds up the learning curve.
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Re: Black Contam [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6177808 - 10/17/06 10:44 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

is this the black contam you are talking about?



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Re: Black Contam [Re: vinzy_a]
    #6177824 - 10/17/06 10:50 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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is this the black contam you are talking about?






I had that mold too, and as far as I figured out, it was Aspergillus Niger (yeah, I laughed at that name too).

from what I read it's very toxic and should not be taken lightly, it's just one cake, why risk it?


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Re: Black Contam [Re: ApJunkie]
    #6177846 - 10/17/06 10:59 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

haha funny name.. i had mine on my popcorn spawn.. left it for 11 days and grew that way from a spore syringe of EQ..

i wont even try to open it.. freakin scary


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Re: Black Contam [Re: vinzy_a]
    #6181487 - 10/18/06 09:41 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

That is really gross looking.  :lipsrsealed:


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Re: Black Contam [Re: CureCat]
    #6185606 - 10/19/06 11:25 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

yeah.. i wanted to take a picture of the it with the container open but.. naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh fuck it

question:
lets say the lid of your LC jar had a small speck of black mold stuck at the top.. so to get the most out of your LC, you sucked out as much of it as you can with your syringes.. is it possible for one to still use these syringes?

what if you suck up a little peroxide in the syringe with the LC? would that save it?

would injecting a little peroxide in PF TEK jars and innoculating it with liquid culture help prevent contamination?

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