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OfflineIgnatius
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Warning! Avoid these Vendors!
    #6158555 - 10/11/06 02:27 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I have spent the last two months with two scam artists masquerading as legit lab equipment vendors.  One is

University Scientific as you might know sells a rip-off of the mycodome called the mycogarden.  I didn't order that, but did order some humidity monitors.  When they didn't show up after a month I e-mailed the company.  Right. Fake e-mail addresses which were kicked back from a strange ISP.  Called and got an answering machine.  My VISA rep said, "Yea, they've been reported before."  The worst thing is this - they troll mushroom forums and give glowing reviews of their products and flame anybody questioning the company's legitmacy. :mad:

The other company sciencelab is a shade more legit.  They actually have an e-mail address.  However, their sales rep kept delaying my order - 2 months after it was made - in order to get through the ex post facto window that my VISA card would allow for reimbursing claims.  Again, my VISA rep said this company was on their radar. 

Avoid these vendors, folks!



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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: Ignatius]
    #6158564 - 10/11/06 02:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry you lost out there, hope everything works out for you.

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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: Spores_101]
    #6158886 - 10/11/06 03:33 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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SPORES101_COM said:
Sorry you lost out there, hope everything works out for you.




EBAY has some helpful links about organizations that you can report the companies to if you like.

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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: StroFun]
    #6158912 - 10/11/06 03:42 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

These companies weren't Ebay or Paypal related.  They were straight Visa transactions.  Kudos to Visa for reimbursing me.  :thumbup:


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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: Ignatius]
    #6158988 - 10/11/06 04:00 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

wow that second link

they must have put allot of work into scamming people if thats the case....

they got a very healthy stock of different chemicals(some of which they need permits to sell)


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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: Ignatius]
    #6159048 - 10/11/06 04:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

University Scientific has had a bad name around here for a long time!~
We have many posts about this scam site in here.

This is the 1st time I have heard anything about the sciencelab.com


thanks for the info!~


tc


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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: Roadkill]
    #6159381 - 10/11/06 06:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the heads up. Almost used university scientific.

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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: psyborg]
    #6159712 - 10/11/06 08:24 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

hehe im helping a noob recover from their mycogarden failure.


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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: mushnoon]
    #6159984 - 10/11/06 09:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Should have bought a www.mycodome.com

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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: Ignatius]
    #6161742 - 10/12/06 11:22 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

well I just put in an order for university scientifics mycogarden, hopefully these guys arent a bunch of scam artists like ya'll say, will report back with the conclusion.


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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: PanamaFred]
    #6162092 - 10/12/06 12:51 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

They are. Cancel your order. GEt your money back.

I've had first hand experience helping a friend who bought the same thing.

Their instructional DVD is a straight rip of Mycodome's online videos, even. They will not answer customer service questions (stupid support ticket deal, my friend still has a ticket open, after over 3 months). They may not include everything that's supposed to come with the kit. The mycogarden doesn't even fit together right, so it's impossible without all sorts of jerryrigging to retain humidity upon fruiting.

It's a cheap bucket based TiT incubator with a stupid plastic dome for fruiting. Seriously, PM me if you want and I'll tell you how to make the same thing for 15% of the price.

CANCEL YOUR ORDER AND SAVE YOUR $$$! Build your own, preferably, or buy a mycodome. There's a reason they're not a sponsor.


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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: mrsage]
    #6162795 - 10/12/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

godam i should have searched mycodome on this site. univ. sci. just looked pretty reputable and I was led there through Ralphster, who seems trusted around here. any ideas on how to cancel this order,? phone wont answer and apparently their email is bullshit? thanks


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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: Ignatius]
    #6162818 - 10/12/06 04:16 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

correction, apparently ralphsterspores.com and ralphstersspores.com are 2 different sides. it was not the authentic ralphster who led me to this faulty product. cant be spreading lies.


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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: PanamaFred] * 1
    #6162920 - 10/12/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yes the other site was bought by the parent company of University Scientific and run to take advantage of folks that got the spelling wrong. Another example of fraudulent (IMO) activity by 'em.


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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: mrsage]
    #6170156 - 10/14/06 09:41 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

They are a long running scam the owners name is Sean and he is a real asshole he was selling spore syringes for 80 dollars and up for just one a few years ago and he also uses makes up websites with names very much like legit vendors sites to throw people off

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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: Sporecloud]
    #6170360 - 10/14/06 10:58 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

sporebank . c o m comes up if you type in ralphsterspores . c o m in the address bar, thet sell the mycogarden


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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: MycoKris]
    #6171253 - 10/15/06 09:43 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

University Scientific.com
Sporebank.com
ganja.com

There are so many of their sites its hard to keep up. I had the unfortunate opportunity to meet these scammers (before I knew) out in Jamaica at their "farm". They seemed nice and were very welcoming and even convinced me it would be a good idea to work out a drop shipment arrangement. I agreed to drop ship my products to their customers for a lower price. Well, a month and half later they still hadnt paid me, stole my product manufacturing techniques, and started distributing crappier versions of my stuff. They even used the same pics!
At the time I had owned Ralph's store when he decided to leave the business, those bastards tried to get me to sign over that name to them right there on a desk in my suite. I knew something was fishy then but I still didn't back off like I should have.

Anyway - I was incredibly pissed and vowed to tell everyone I could about these assholes and their business practices. So, here ya go.

The guys who have been screwing with you are:

[Edit: Personal Information Removed - Please DO NOT Post such information on our public BB]

R

Edited by geokills (10/16/06 09:15 AM)

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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: Spores_101]
    #6171321 - 10/15/06 10:07 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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SPORES101_COM said:  But watch out because he is also a retired lawyer.




As if we needed any more dirt to know they're fucking scumbags.  :crazy2:


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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: Ignatius]
    #6171486 - 10/15/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Ignatius said:
  Kudos to Visa for reimbursing me.  :thumbup:




Which is exactly how to handle it.  Visa charges the merchant an extra $25 to $50 each time they do a charge back, ensuring the sloppy merchant gets spanked.  They either fix the problem or go out of business, but you have to complain to the credit card company when you get jacked.
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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6175519 - 10/16/06 03:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

wow my friend ordered jars form university scientific and says he wont get em from anywhere else is this something new he ordered last almost a year ago. and in this case does that make sporebank bad too they are affiliated


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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: thedudenj]
    #6176467 - 10/16/06 08:29 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, sporebank and all others owned by IRIE.  Fuck 'em all.  :thumbdown:


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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: mrsage]
    #6180117 - 10/17/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

You can add http://www.sporestore.com to that list as well.

I guess, logically, any site you see a University Scientific related link or MycoGarden ad is bogus.

I sent an order at sporestore and the "check order status" has not changed nor have I received any feedback from them after leaving a comment (or two) from there sites "contact" link.

There should be an easy to find list of bogus vendors here :smile: just a suggestion. :smile:

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Re: Warning! Avoid these Vendors! [Re: MajorDick]
    #6180413 - 10/17/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

MajorDick said:

There should be an easy to find list of bogus vendors here :smile: just a suggestion. :smile:





We really can't do that for legal reasons....

one of the "so called" bogus non Shroomery Vendors might sue us.


but please notice that this thread is still open for discussing members problems with non shroomery Vendors.

:smirk:


and you can always do a search in this forum to get past experiences on other non Shroomery Vendors...there should be a few.


tc


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Who the hell you callin crazy?
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Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: Warning! Avoid these Vendors! [Re: Roadkill]
    #6180466 - 10/17/06 08:59 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I was kinda kidding on that :smile:

I learned my lesson.. I'm sending ralphster my order tomorrow. The box is IL and I'm in.. um, a bordering state. So what like 2-3 days for the order to get there, one day for processing, then another 2-3 to get back to me? I'm sure he'll send a confirmation E-mail when he gets it, right? I wish I would have discovered him before my haste lead me down the wrong path. It was kinda weird tho I actually came across a Ralphsters44  Free Spore Ring website, but when I sent an E-mail it was returned so I guess it was one he abandoned or an ISP he gave up on or something.

Hopefully when I get some money I can order his RoadKills Special :wink:

Can't wait to start.. I need a hobby while I don't have a license.

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Re: Warning! Avoid these Vendors! [Re: Roadkill]
    #6180519 - 10/17/06 09:13 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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and you can always do a search in this forum to get past experiences on other non Shroomery Vendors...there should be a few.









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Re: Warning! Avoid these Vendors! [Re: motaman]
    #6180543 - 10/17/06 09:17 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I must say I was fucked over by the university scientific/spore store scam. I wish I would have been smart enough to just get on the shroomery first and look up info on making my own grow kit instead of looking for an easy way. Now I say ralphsters all the way. Great service and great selection.

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Re: Warning! Avoid these Vendors! [Re: Ignatius]
    #6184443 - 10/18/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Now I get this e-mail...

*** Email Content Deleted ***

I don't know if its a confirmation or an invoice.. wtfh?

The status so there site changed to "processed" so i guess we will see..




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Edited by Roadkill (10/19/06 06:45 AM)

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Re: Warning! Avoid these Vendors! [Re: MajorDick]
    #6184477 - 10/18/06 10:20 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

well i guess they read these posts and go oh shit


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Re: Warning! Avoid these Vendors! [Re: Ignatius]
    #6184492 - 10/18/06 10:23 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Or got the comments I sent then :smile:

Slow but the same deal I'll get from Ralph who's order I JUST sent out in the box around the corner. whatever..

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Re: Warning! Avoid these Vendors! *DELETED* [Re: MajorDick]
    #6184555 - 10/18/06 10:44 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Reason for deletion: Your not allowed to post emails or other type of correspondence. thank you!~


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Re: Warning! Avoid these Vendors! [Re: MajorDick]
    #6184692 - 10/18/06 11:35 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

or its a yahoo account with a away message


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Re: Warning! Avoid these Vendors! [Re: MustNotBe]
    #6186029 - 10/19/06 11:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Okay now both feet are in my mouth.. :smile: HA

I got another one today. To quote it my "order was dispacthed today". and it only took two weeks.. and aperently the USPS has a tracking system.. did not know that.

And those e-mails I posted WERE doctored.. I changed my personal info :smile:. my bad road.. i guess i shoulda read the TOS a little more :smile:

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Re: Warning! Avoid these Vendors! [Re: MajorDick]
    #6186992 - 10/19/06 03:35 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

no problem bro!~

:smile:

I didn't scold you too bad!~

I figgured that you didn't know that you can't post emails and private messages.



and...

lmfao @ those e-mails I posted WERE doctored!~

see that is exactly why we don't allow them!~

:smirk:



You can talk in a general way on how a conversation went though...

for example...

The Keeper from the Spore Trading Post...
emailed me and told me to fuck off and that he wasn't going to refund my money to me.
and he has terrible people skills(he swore at me) and shouldn't run a business!~


See how to do it?

lolzz


take care!~

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Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!


Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: Warning! Avoid these Vendors! [Re: MajorDick]
    #6201703 - 10/23/06 12:22 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Okay I got my shipment today.. So, my bad sporestore
Sorry I doubted you. :sad:




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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6209155 - 10/25/06 12:12 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
Quote:

Ignatius said:
  Kudos to Visa for reimbursing me.  :thumbup:




Which Visa charges the merchant an extra $25 to $50 each time they do a charge back, ensuring the sloppy merchant gets spanked. 
RR




I've also read that if a Visa merchant has > 5% chargebacks then Visa will terminate their account. What University Scientific probably does is deliver the cheap items like grain jars (and subcontract those out to another vendor) while it scams on much larger items, like the humidity and temp gauges I ordered at almost $300.


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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: Ignatius]
    #6213617 - 10/26/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

hey, you stole my that I stole from some dead author. You obviously have not read Boethius!


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Re: Warning! Avoid these two vendors! [Re: IgnatiusJReilly]
    #6213622 - 10/26/06 10:36 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

oh well, I'm the grumpier Ig.


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