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Invisiblemr crisper
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the kybalion
    #615337 - 04/22/02 09:33 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

ive had this book for nearly 15 years, always keep it handy and read bits and pieces from it. on the cover it says it was written by "three initiates".
but 2 weeks ago i discovered the identities of 2 of the 3. they turned out to be my 2 favorite writers, whose books i have also spent many years studying and whose knowledge and motivations i have total respect for.
so i reread the kybalion with a special joy, it kind of tied a lot of things together for me.

in the book, they discuss the 7 hermetic principles -

1- THE ALL is MIND; the universe is mental

2- as above, so below; as below, so above

3- nothing rests; everything moves; everything vibrates.

4- everything is dual; everything has poles; everything has its pair of opposites; like and unlike are the same; opposites are identical in nature, but different in degree; extremes meet; all truths are but half-truths; all paradoxes may be reconciled.

5- everything flows, out and in; everything has its tides; all things rise and fall; the pendulum-swing manifests in everything; the measure of the swing to the right is the measure of the swing to the left; rhythm compensates.

6- every cause has its effect; every effect has its cause; everything happens according to law; chance is but a name for law not recognised; there are many planes of causation, but nothing escapes the law.

7- gender is in everything; everything has its masculine and feminine principles; gender manifests on all planes.


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Re: the kybalion [Re: mr crisper]
    #615344 - 04/22/02 09:43 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

That book is a jewel of wisdom, how are the two writers?


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Re: the kybalion [Re: mr crisper]
    #615348 - 04/22/02 09:49 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I enjoy very much hermetic writings...
I didnt read that book..but I will :wink:
   


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Re: the kybalion [Re: LOBO]
    #615351 - 04/22/02 09:57 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

the third remains unknown
others were p.f.case and w.w.atkinson.
mr atkinson also wrote a series of books with baba barata and published them under the name of yogi ramacharaka.


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Re: the kybalion [Re: mr crisper]
    #615366 - 04/22/02 10:19 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

And how has this ancient wisdom enhanced your life? Can you be specific?


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Re: the kybalion [Re: mr crisper]
    #615367 - 04/22/02 10:20 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I just want to add this:

The Emerald Tablet (Tabula Smaragdina)

1) It is true without untruth, certain and most true:
2) that which is below is like that which is on high, and that which is on high is like that
which is below; by these things are made the miracles of one thing.
3) And as all things are, and come from One, by the mediation of One, So all things are born
from this unique thing by adaption.
4) The Sun is the father and the Moon the mother.
5) The wind carries it in its stomach. The earth is its nourisher and its receptacle.
6 The Father of all the Theleme of the universal world is here.
6a) Its force, or power, remains entire,
7) if it is converted into earth.
7a) You separate the earth from the fire, the subtle from the gross, gently with great
industry.
8) It climbs from the earth and descends from the sky, and receives the force of things
superior and things inferior.
9) You will have by this way, the glory of the world and all obscurity will flee from you.
10) It is the power strong with all power, for it will defeat every subtle thing and penetrate
every solid thing
11a) In this way the world was created.
12) From it are born wonderful adaptations, of which the way here is given.
13) That is why I have been called Hermes Tristmegistus, having the three parts of the
universal philosophy.
14) This, that I have called the solar Work, is complete.

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Re: the kybalion [Re: Swami]
    #615380 - 04/22/02 10:40 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Well I have applied the law of mental creation and had gotten out of poverty.


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Re: the kybalion [Re: mr crisper]
    #615388 - 04/22/02 10:46 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Very interesting that Yogi Ramacharaca, is one of them, also I will add that the Bhagavad-Gita, is another jewel of wisdom.
My two favorites books
Another writer that you may be interested if you can get a translated book, is Dr Jorge Adumm


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Re: the kybalion [Re: LOBO]
    #615389 - 04/22/02 10:46 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Well I have applied the law of mental creation and had gotten out of poverty.
Could you be more vague? Is that anything like the law of creating/ updating your resume and then applying and interviewing for a job?



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Re: the kybalion [Re: Swami]
    #615394 - 04/22/02 10:55 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

If you are interested read the book.
It is not about magic ore spells, is about changing and inferior state of consciousness into a higher one.
The specifics of this operation are personal.


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Re: the kybalion [Re: mr crisper]
    #615525 - 04/22/02 01:52 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

It sounds remarkably similar to the Tao Te Ching.
I don't know how literal the masculine and feminine idea is to be taken.
Lao tzu taught that everything arises from two polar energies: yin and yang. This is probably the same concept.

Peace.


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Re: the kybalion [Re: Swami]
    #615884 - 04/23/02 12:37 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Oh, dear me! Looks like Swamster now thinks he is a high-flying bird. If before he was only battling the factuality of "paranormal phenomena" he is now trying to discredit spiritual search per se. I suppose if I ask "How has science enhanced your life" you'll say "It has given me TV, Sport Utility Cars and super-thin condoms". How convenient.

-- Grib.


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Re: the kybalion [Re: gribochek]
    #615915 - 04/23/02 01:14 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

he is now trying to discredit spiritual search per se.
Does merely asking a question disrupt your frail spirituality?

Wait, Now I get it. The 3800 people who died in the WTC bombing all made that happen, so the terrorists weren't really at fault because we all create our own reality. (See #1 of the Hermetic Priniciples).


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Re: the kybalion [Re: gribochek]
    #615922 - 04/23/02 01:23 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

If you two would learn to open your minds even 1/10000000, you may learn something, or maybe not. actually odds are when you get together with a bunch of people no one learns anything, that's the whole point of talking to one another, to completely discard anothers view, make him feel like shit, and take pride in that fact. Oh yes you will argue where is the tangible proof, the idea's represented to you will lead you as close as you may come for if you knew everything what would be the point of the afterlife, right. Then you will say, i have already opened my mind and recieved nothing, then i say to you you are not doing it the right way since other people are getting the messages and you are not, mybe if you actually took it easy on the complete slander of anothers views you may just get to understand a bit more, and if thats all, fine, because by listening to anothers views with an open mind you are acting in good conscience and you will be surprised how much better you will feel about yourself, just think about it.


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insanity with a plan, a plan to stop exercising truth as compared to breathing thin air, but to experience truth as all there is to experience, for what do i not already have that exsists? All i can do is enjoy the ride.


Edited by cHeMiCaLbLuE (04/23/02 01:25 AM)


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Re: the kybalion [Re: mr crisper]
    #615933 - 04/23/02 01:40 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

*examines 1st Hermetic principle*
Nowhere do I see all actions are mental.

*examines 6th Hermetic principle*
every cause has its effect; every effect has its cause
Cause:Planes fly into buildings
Effect: Planes explode, buildings implode, ~2800 people die.

I'm new to this board and perhaps I didn't send away to recieve my own pair of skeptic's, logical eye glasses.


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Re: the kybalion [Re: gribochek]
    #615939 - 04/23/02 01:45 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

What's wrong with super-thin condoms? They're better than knocking somebody up, getting aids or the old super-thick condoms.

Oh wait a minute, I buy the super-thick size condoms, forget that part.


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Re: the kybalion [Re: ]
    #615973 - 04/23/02 02:47 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Magnum or regular?


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Re: the kybalion [Re: cHeMiCaLbLuE]
    #615993 - 04/23/02 03:25 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

If you two would learn to open your minds even 1/10000000, you may learn something, or maybe not.
Let's see... how many people here have spent time with Sai Baba, Rajneesh, and Swami Kriyanada? How many have done sweat lodge and peyote ceremonies with the NAC? Have you been to Area 51, and Gulf Breeze? Been on a Vision Quest? Meditated and did yoga and strict vegetarian diet for 10 years? Fasted for 18 days? Spent a night in a haunted house or in a mystical vortex in Sedona, AZ? I could go on and on. I have explored more than you have ever read about.

...make him feel like shit...
I cannot make anyone feel anything. Your reaction to some black dots on a screen is yours alone. If I said the sky is green, would you get mad? I doubt it. So if I speak some other untruth, why would you choose to feel poorly? People only feel bad because they have doubts and they get angry at me for showing the flaw in their thinking.

actually odds are when you get together with a bunch of people no one learns anything
Completely wrong. I have been both a student and a teacher during many periods of my adult life.

...for if you knew everything what would be the point of the afterlife, right.
Huh? There is no evidence for an afterlife nor a point to to it.

...other people are getting the messages and you are not
And what messages are those? That we are alien puppets? That we can move objects with our minds, but not when anyone is looking? That we create our own reality even though we have very little control over our lives?


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Re: the kybalion [Re: Swami]
    #616815 - 04/23/02 11:18 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

so, did sai baba produce some 'holy ash' for you?
wow swami, all that effort, all those years.
and the whole time, you carried the true answer within your heart, right?


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Re: the kybalion [Re: mr crisper]
    #616850 - 04/23/02 11:47 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, old Sai did some good (but obvious to a trained eye) parlor tricks. All those years and I came up empty-handed. Everyone is trying to find a handle; something to hold onto. I was open to the mysterious, but not too naive. Now I end up here a cynic still hoping for a miracle before my time runs out.





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