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Re: Tired of living... [Re: LeViTY]
#1725260 - 07/17/03 03:49 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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i hate when i get into a slump.. *everyone* is a pimple on the ass of the universe
simply put, theres nothing wrong with ending it all- no troubles will have evere existed, and the troubles of losing any positive stuff in your life won't come out and haunt you.
but suicide simply has no style.. i never thought so, but an author put the suggestion out there, and I remembered it. I've found it's true.
it's through inanity that substance can exist
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Re: Tired of living... [Re: ]
#1725696 - 07/17/03 06:10 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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"theres nothing wrong with ending it all- no troubles will have evere existed"
Don't forget there are OTHER PEOPLE in your life..... OTHER PEOPLE who care about you - even people you might not even know or care about yourself - they will witness and/or hear about your suicide and you will have caused pain and sorrow for many, instead of just yourself.
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Re: Tired of living... [Re: Strumpling]
#1726015 - 07/17/03 08:03 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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when it comes down to it, they never existed nor will they continue existing
your life is your universe, end it and it's gone
suicide is a personal choice
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Re: Tired of living... [Re: ]
#1726223 - 07/17/03 08:53 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Suicide is about the only thing there is when all else is gone, it is the one right which cannot be taken away from you, and in certain case's i think its appropriate. I think Levity maybe needs to get away from her parents, and her current situation for a bit, and just have some time to be sad and decide whats up with her life... Hopefully her parents wont make that too hard for her.
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Re: Tired of living... [Re: PDU]
#1726757 - 07/18/03 12:43 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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PDF, you're an ass.
Levity, don't listen to these people saying that suicide is an OK solution.
Because it isn't!
It's an avoidance solution. It's what people do when they can't deal with things.
But, as I've said many times, you can deal with shit yourself. There is nothing that will happen in your life that you can't deal with. Your life is your own, and YOU controll it.
Suicide is, in my opinion, the most cowardly of all actions. It's better to run away from a physical fight than it is to take your own life. Taking your own life is admitting that you can't handle it...which just isn't true. You can do what you want with your life. Period. That doesn't mean you have to kill yourself.
You would hurt FAR more people than you would help. I, at least, would be very, VERY destraught if you were not around 
Choose life! It's the only logical solution.
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Re: Tired of living... [Re: trendal]
#1727897 - 07/18/03 02:36 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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it's an option, not a solution closing ANY option promotes delusion
in the words of Camus, "There is but one truly serious philosophical problem, and that is suicide. Judging whether life is or is not worth living amounts to answering the fundamental question of philosophy."
there is no shame, there is no cowardice, and there is no honor in the decision. its is a nuetral one
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Re: Tired of living... [Re: ]
#1727906 - 07/18/03 02:41 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well said Morrowind!
I think focusing on how Levity feel's, and helping her make appropriate decisions, is more important than condemning her for considering a plausible option and making her feel bad for thinking about hurting her relatives, when she is the one that need's pain relief.
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Re: Tired of living... [Re: PDU]
#1727924 - 07/18/03 02:48 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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A good point. All the same, I would appreciate it if people did NOT advocate suicide in this forum.
End of story on this one, I'm afraid
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Re: Tired of living... [Re: trendal]
#1728016 - 07/18/03 03:18 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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very well. i just thought i might be of a little help: only through accepting suicide as an option did I reject it
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Re: Tired of living... [Re: ]
#1728592 - 07/18/03 06:54 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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It may be an option, yes, but I do not believe it is a good idea to discuss it as an option with someone who may be clinically depressed.
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Re: Tired of living... [Re: trendal]
#1728604 - 07/18/03 07:00 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Unless you believe it all goes black when you leave this planet, you will always be stuck in some kind of conscious/unconscious physical/emotional/mental/intuitive/much-more-even being. There are many options to overcome being sad. I would say look inside to find the inner light, but it is a matter of finding what fuels that light inside of you.
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Re: Tired of living... [Re: LeViTY]
#1732439 - 07/20/03 01:44 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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LeViTY - Greetings. On the S&P forum, people are mourning the recent suicide of ViBrAnT, who stated that he had an inoperable brain tumor, and who very shortly would have begun to lose both mental and physical abilities. He jumped off of a railroad bridge. Many people wrote to ViBrAnT when he started to make posts similar to yours. Some cynics scoffed at his mere pleas for attention - as if there was something wrong with reaching out to fellow human beings for help. I gave it my best shot, and I'm a crisis intervention specialist in the 4th largest school system in the US. I failed to bring about a non-destructive attitude.
I don't know how old you are, but when I was in my 20's, I saw too many suicides. Fear of life was stronger than the fear of death. Apprehension at not knowing when they, or their loved ones would die, was too much to live with. Some of them stayed numb on numbing drugs. Most had no faith or belief in God, and those who claimed to thought that they would simply be forgiven by God, not realizing that they were already IN Hell, and that by killing the physical body, they would enter more fully into that damnable condition.
When I was suicidal during the most powerful acid trip of my life, the above idea occurred to me. Since, I reasoned, life would end eventually, and since it also came to me that one had to die in a state of bliss, or at least in a state of peace that transcended one's pain - I was surely not ready to die. That was Independence Day 1973. I have never regretted my decision to put down that deer-bone handled Bowie knife. It is a huge assumption that killing the body results in simple annihilation. Most of the world's people since paleolithic times have NOT believed this to be the case. I'll not preach to you, but I will warn you, that thinking that suicide ends one's suffering is the biggest mistake of one's human existence. If you have not yet had an experience that changes your materialistic belief - then spend the rest of your life seeking one. Seeking the Truth is THE point, and purpose for the blessing of having been given a human existence.
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Some people search for "the truth" (the truth about what? the bitter realization of life?) and never find it, some realize it right away. I think thats kind of a cop out excuse to justify living.
Look, the things that justify living can be few and far between, but they're there. Levity, you have lots of friends that care about you, yuo are constantly flattered/joked about/gawked at by alot of the shroomery, from what i gather you live a pretty nice life in a nice area, etc etc.
Fuck, things probably will get worse at parts of your life, your going to have to learn to deal with the problems of growing up, and enjoy what you can, while you can, now.
Thats how it is, no BS'ing you through it, youve got the support of lots of people, tons of unbiased people to talk your problems out with, and methods to action, start figuring things out and enjoying life, living in personal torment isnt any good...but its up to you to focus on the positive, its up to you to take action, its up to you...and you can do it.
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Re: Tired of living... [Re: Jackal]
#6148526 - 10/08/06 10:59 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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I see where your coming from, think that same stuff all the time. But at the end of the day you have to realize EVERYONE has or does think of this too!! AND EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES. Its not to late to correct those mistakes and to start over again. Just because you lose someone you love doesn't mean you should stop loving altogether. Maybe it wasn't meant to be. Maybe you'll meet someone who will be better. Who knows? You sure as hell wont know if you kill yourself. Hey I got a story for you: I myself wanted to kill myself and I actually had a date and a plot plotted a month in advance! I was going to kill myself on one of my birthdays 2 years ago. I was writing in a journal that whole month saying my goodbye and saying piece on things that pissed me off and generally telling people why. Then the very day I was going to kill myself my best friend called me after not calling me for several weeks and said he wanted to see me. WE hung out as usual then I met someone new that day my now girlfriend and that change my life for the better I found a better place to live a better job. Made friends with her friends, cleaned up my act,etc. Now if I had just killed myself and never went and saw my friend NONE of that would have happened. That I in hindsight i would have regretted alot!! What if the day after you killed yourself everything changed for the better?? IT DOES HAPPEN, Happened To Me.. Don't give up without a fight!!
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Re: Tired of living... [Re: shroom_me]
#6149143 - 10/09/06 03:38 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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dont revive old threads please
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