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Afraid she'll go to Hell.
    #6145184 - 10/07/06 11:22 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

My significant other is afraid that she will go to Hell because I don't believe on God.

It seems rather unfair for God to cast away someone who loves him, and has lived life without sin (or rather, great sin) because they love someone who doesn't believe in Him.

Edited by Hoss (10/07/06 11:22 PM)

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Re: Afraid she'll go to Hell. [Re: Hoss]
    #6145210 - 10/07/06 11:27 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I would tell her you don't believe in hell.  :shrug: 


(unless you do and in that case, I'll see you there.  :wink: )

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Re: Afraid she'll go to Hell. [Re: MOTH]
    #6145215 - 10/07/06 11:29 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

No, no...

I mean, I don't believe in God, or heaven, or hell, or anything.

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Re: Afraid she'll go to Hell. [Re: Hoss]
    #6145235 - 10/07/06 11:36 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

your significant other is cool
do you love her?

maybe what she is saying is you need to figure some things out if you wanna be with her because she sees things more clearly than you do
and when you don't believe in the same stuff as her
it's basically the same as calling her foolish or silly, otherwise why wouldn't you acknowledge the same ideas?

and you seem to insist you don't want to grow in love and wisdom with her.

maybe if you listened to her and loved her, you would find God that way. in fact, i think that is the way it's supposed to work.


what's the big deal about believing in God anyways?
it's fun.

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Re: Afraid she'll go to Hell. [Re: Hoss]
    #6145256 - 10/07/06 11:41 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

why conjure up a tall tale called hell

god is what you make of him/her/it or what someone sold to you along with the american dream, or whatever nation u reside

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Re: Afraid she'll go to Hell. [Re: capliberty]
    #6145293 - 10/07/06 11:54 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

like when you were a kid you believed in santa claus
and it made you happy, and your family happy

or maybe you believed your teddy bear was real or had an invisible friend

if you love your girlfriend, and she's worried about going to hell
why not just embrace her beliefs-
make-believe with her.
i mean, are they really that ridiculous for you to handle?
and if so, then doesn't it bother you that she's neurotic that way?

what i'm saying is
if she believes in God, and knows she'll wind up in hell if her husband/boyfriend doesn't believe
it means you can't be with her then

unless you think you can change her mind about hell and God
and in that case, she's kinda silly herself isn't she, so why would you like her, lol

i'm saying this because personally, it would drive me nuts being in a relationship with someone who didn't believe in God.
it would make me feel like i was in hell, lol.

and when i get with a woman
she needs to believe the same things i do, or it ain't happenin' with me.

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Re: Afraid she'll go to Hell. [Re: Telepylus]
    #6145312 - 10/07/06 11:58 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Telepylus said:
your significant other is cool
do you love her?

maybe what she is saying is you need to figure some things out if you wanna be with her because she sees things more clearly than you do
and when you don't believe in the same stuff as her
it's basically the same as calling her foolish or silly, otherwise why wouldn't you acknowledge the same ideas?

and you seem to insist you don't want to grow in love and wisdom with her.

maybe if you listened to her and loved her, you would find God that way.  in fact, i think that is the way it's supposed to work.


what's the big deal about believing in God anyways?
it's fun.




Well I never really believed in him as I grew up, and my disbelief just got stronger as I got older.

There's no big deal about believing in God. However, I couldn't just force myself to believe in him. Is that what God would want? For me to trick myself into believing in him?

Anyway, it's like saying, "Why don't you give belief in Zeus a try?"

See what I mean?

I'm not giving her the impression that I think she's a fool. Would I be giving her that impression if I were a different religion? Likely not. It's simply that I do not believe.

But if she is saved, then good news! :smile:

EDIT: Sorry about the typos. I guess I'm a bit brain-dead tonight. :smile:

Edited by Hoss (10/08/06 12:00 AM)

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Re: Afraid she'll go to Hell. [Re: Hoss]
    #6145329 - 10/08/06 12:03 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Whatever you do, don't "believe" just to satisfy her.

I think that's the craziest thing I've ever heard of. My mom wasn't a Christian until she married my dad. Now she doesn't take a shit without his permission.

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Re: Afraid she'll go to Hell. [Re: Telepylus]
    #6145333 - 10/08/06 12:04 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Telepylus said:
and when i get with a woman
she needs to believe the same things i do, or it ain't happenin' with me.




i agree with what you're saying, though personally i feel that as long she supports or at least acknowledges my own sacred beliefs i would not otherwise expect her to believe in what i believe. i think it's all about creating compassionate mutual respect for another,

and who knows? perhaps you may find that her beliefs harmonize with yours, even though it may seem that you both believe in two completely different things.

love, as it is. :heart:


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Re: Afraid she'll go to Hell. [Re: Telepylus]
    #6145378 - 10/08/06 12:13 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Telepylus said:
your significant other is cool
do you love her?

maybe what she is saying is you need to figure some things out if you wanna be with her because she sees things more clearly than you do
and when you don't believe in the same stuff as her
it's basically the same as calling her foolish or silly, otherwise why wouldn't you acknowledge the same ideas?

and you seem to insist you don't want to grow in love and wisdom with her.

maybe if you listened to her and loved her, you would find God that way. in fact, i think that is the way it's supposed to work.


what's the big deal about believing in God anyways?
it's fun.




Well that's a waste of time though. That's like basically saying his own views and beliefs are foolish. Who cares if he loves her. His beliefs are lifelong and structured. Changing your belief in god for a girl is the dumbest thing ever, and in the end, you just ask, "Why the hell did I pick this religion up? I don't even feel this way."

Never sacrifice religious beliefs unless you're already married...

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Re: Afraid she'll go to Hell. [Re: MOTH]
    #6145387 - 10/08/06 12:15 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

you can twist the knob and dial-it-in at least

and still be impartial

if you look at the greater scape about the adjuncts to describe ur reality, maybe you'll find that your refering to the same stuff but reside on different sides of the spectrum,

balance out faith/practical reason , both can co-exist and both are useful navigators

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Re: Afraid she'll go to Hell. [Re: Telepylus]
    #6145751 - 10/08/06 02:47 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Telepylus said:
if you love your girlfriend, and she's worried about going to hell
why not just embrace her beliefs-
make-believe with her.
i mean, are they really that ridiculous for you to handle?




You are crediting her belief/faith as "make believe", and telling him to lie to her....?    :lol:

Ironic advise, for relationship guidance....    :confused:
Care to share your philosophical/spiritual POV on this....?


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Re: Afraid she'll go to Hell. [Re: Hoss]
    #6145772 - 10/08/06 03:04 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

if you really do love your signifigant other try to convince her the truth, that god doesnt exist

if shes wont consider, tell her to respect your beliefs

and i dont think the bible says she'll go to hell, just you

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Re: Afraid she'll go to Hell. [Re: mungojerry]
    #6145784 - 10/08/06 03:23 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

mungojerry said:
if you really do love your signifigant other try to convince her the truth, that god doesnt exist

if shes wont consider, tell her to respect your beliefs

and i dont think the bible says she'll go to hell, just you




how do you know god doesn't exist? you don't know that's the truth. sometimes trying to convince a faithful person god doesn't exist can be the stupidest thing you can do. i will always regret trying to convince my grandmother god didn't exist before she died.

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Re: Afraid she'll go to Hell. [Re: Deviate]
    #6145793 - 10/08/06 03:32 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

we evolved from primate, the earth is billions of years old and common sence

the christian god does not exist open a science book

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Re: Afraid she'll go to Hell. [Re: mungojerry]
    #6145796 - 10/08/06 03:39 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

god is primitive and superstitious thinking

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Re: Afraid she'll go to Hell. [Re: Hoss]
    #6145800 - 10/08/06 03:43 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Hoss said:
My significant other is afraid that she will go to Hell because I don't believe on God.




i never heard that one before. what is she, jehova's witness or something?


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Re: Afraid she'll go to Hell. [Re: Hoss]
    #6145952 - 10/08/06 07:03 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Hoss said:
My significant other is afraid that she will go to Hell because I don't believe on God.





I don't know where she came up with this most strange notion.

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Re: Afraid she'll go to Hell. [Re: Hoss]
    #6145970 - 10/08/06 07:39 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Don't worry about Hell. Even if it is real. Just think of all of the cool people you'll get to hang out with. I'll be right there too if that is the case. Heaven will be clogged with judgemental, self righteous, intolerant people who are absorbed in their own bullshit. It won't be a pleasant place to be. With all of the enlightened people I expect to meet in hell I feel that we can create our own heaven in the middle of it.


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Re: Afraid she'll go to Hell. [Re: Telepylus]
    #6146070 - 10/08/06 08:56 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Telepylus said:
your significant other is cool
do you love her?

maybe what she is saying is you need to figure some things out if you wanna be with her because she sees things more clearly than you do
and when you don't believe in the same stuff as her
it's basically the same as calling her foolish or silly, otherwise why wouldn't you acknowledge the same ideas?

and you seem to insist you don't want to grow in love and wisdom with her.

maybe if you listened to her and loved her, you would find God that way. in fact, i think that is the way it's supposed to work.


what's the big deal about believing in God anyways?
it's fun.




You do not need to adopt another's belief system in order to show respect for them. So no, its not the same as calling her beliefs foolish. As for seeing more clearly, IMO belief is hardly ever a choice made with clarity, and is much more to do with mental programming than spiriutal evolution. The big deal about loving god is, if you dont believe in him, its like betraying your own spiriutal inclinations to do so.


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