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Is dunking without removing casing layer really bad?
    #6140353 - 10/06/06 03:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I dunked a casing I had and after taking it out of the water I just thought I'd leave it on, without replacing the casing. I didn't have any vermiculite at the time. Now I think some of the old pins are going to rot, even tho new mycelium seems to be growing over them. What should I do?

Just take off the old casing and put on a new one?
Or would I be ok to leave it?


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Re: Is dunking without removing casing layer really bad? [Re: Jerrico]
    #6141606 - 10/06/06 10:59 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

bump


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Re: Is dunking without removing casing layer really bad? [Re: Jerrico]
    #6141788 - 10/07/06 12:07 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

wo wo wo, first off dunking is a great thing... if done properly.

Here is a few pointers.

After harvest take special care to get every pin off the casing layer!!! The pins can dry and rot giving a possible contam.

After cleaning of the pins then dunk in distilled or spring water.

After dunking add some patches in your casing layer where you may have lost some then put back into your FC

Hope this helps


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Re: Is dunking without removing casing layer really bad? [Re: Babo911]
    #6141871 - 10/07/06 12:33 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Execpt that you shouldn't pick all the pins. Cubensis, like many species sets the pins for the first two or three flushes at the time pins for first flush are set. They then sit dormant until their time comes. If you have a few aborts that are being consumed by mycelium, don't worry. Pick the obvious aborts that you can get to, but don't tear the tray apart trying to get them out.
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Re: Is dunking without removing casing layer really bad? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6141960 - 10/07/06 01:05 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I learn something new every day


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Re: Is dunking without removing casing layer really bad? [Re: Babo911]
    #6142530 - 10/07/06 08:09 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Babo911 said:
I learn something new every day




Yes me too. Partly thanks to the great help of people like RR, he rulez!  :cool:

Thanks RR.


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Re: Is dunking without removing casing layer really bad? [Re: Babo911]
    #6142582 - 10/07/06 09:02 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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I learn something new every day



Think about it this way your initial pinset requires a lot of energy from the myc this energy is a rollover from the expedient growth during the vegetative stage.
Once in the fruiting mode little to no pins are formed. Now many people for whatever reason recase which is pure foolishness and makes no mycosense at all, putting the myc's energy back into forming pins after of course it recolonizes the casing AGAIN rather than to bolt the next flush is nonsense. The myc will have to recolonize the casing twice consuming more substrate to build energy energy that it neeeded to mature those primordia.


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Re: Is dunking without removing casing layer really bad? [Re: hyphae]
    #6142613 - 10/07/06 09:28 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Hey Hyphae,
I'm trying to make some mycosense of all this. How can you keep the large flushes rolling? When I harvest my first flush I will remove anything larger then about a grain of rice. Then I dunk my substrate for about 6 hours apply a tiny bit of casing mix to the areas where the mush were removed from and stick it back into the FC.

Ok so now I'm running into a problem the small pins I don't remove don't abort they fully mature into little nothings barley worth trying to dry and they seem to rob energy from other mushrooms around them.
I've found that If I spend the time to remove every last pin I can see the mycelium will have a bit of time to recover from the last flush before it pops out another one with any kind of decent weight.

Why are my second flush pins not growing to there full potential?


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Re: Is dunking without removing casing layer really bad? [Re: musher_420]
    #6142667 - 10/07/06 09:58 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

First only pick mature fruits and aborts. Then soak the casing down to near saturation now during the next few days the myc is digesting nutrients from the substrate that it has colonized when it's ready it will bolt the next flush as long as it has enough AVAILABLE moisture. Change the way you think, try to think like that myc guy or should I say that fun guy and you will see through his eyes.


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Re: Is dunking without removing casing layer really bad? [Re: hyphae]
    #6142968 - 10/07/06 12:18 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

lol. lovely description. brains turn into myc... hahahaha


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Re: Is dunking without removing casing layer really bad? [Re: hyphae]
    #6143642 - 10/07/06 05:00 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

LOL Thanks for the advice man, I've been trying to think like a fun guy for about a year now. They way you put it actually I really need to reconsider a couple of my methods (casing mainly I believe). That's what I love about this hobby no matter how many steps I take to try to perfect it I'm still finding ways to improve on my technique thanks to this site and the guidance of seasoned pros.


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