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OfflineTimmeh
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Are mushrooms toxic?
    #6141932 - 10/06/06 10:56 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I'm sure it has been asked a million times but I want to know for sure. Are psilocybin mushrooms toxic?


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Re: Are mushrooms toxic? [Re: Timmeh]
    #6142269 - 10/07/06 01:15 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

not deadly. you cant O.D on Psilocybin. but as for toxic, why the hell do you think you "trip"? because hallucinating isnt normal brain function dear. So obviously its a poison of some kind. (you can "trip" off of sleep deprivation, nutmeg, datura, high fever,i n which is all very poisonous deadly and dangerous.)


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Re: Are mushrooms toxic? [Re: Sporegasm]
    #6142277 - 10/07/06 01:19 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

DURRR


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Re: Are mushrooms toxic? [Re: Sporegasm]
    #6142279 - 10/07/06 01:19 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I've heard of babies dying from them, dont know for sure.

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Re: Are mushrooms toxic? [Re: Omnicow]
    #6142428 - 10/07/06 02:43 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

It must be the media influence.

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Re: Are mushrooms toxic? [Re: Sporegasm]
    #6142430 - 10/07/06 02:45 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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Sporegasm said:
not deadly. you cant O.D on Psilocybin. but as for toxic, why the hell do you think you "trip"? because hallucinating isnt normal brain function dear. So obviously its a poison of some kind. (you can "trip" off of sleep deprivation, nutmeg, datura, high fever,i n which is all very poisonous deadly and dangerous.)




Not true. If it were a poison, then by definition, it would have the potential to kill, which it does not. Poisons are lethal. Toxins are a kind of poison. Mushrooms contain alkaloids. I believe those are the only "active" chemicals.

While there is some "toxicity" at enormous doses, that is not due to an actual toxic nature of the alkaloids. A whole lot of benign things can kill you at giant doses simply because your body cannot handle it.


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Re: Are mushrooms toxic? [Re: matchbook]
    #6142439 - 10/07/06 03:00 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

exactly

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Re: Are mushrooms toxic? [Re: Mycomushroom]
    #6142473 - 10/07/06 04:02 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I believe what he meant was if they're neurotoxic.
Then the answer is no.

Good drugs do not damage the brain.


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Re: Are mushrooms toxic? [Re: Syyslehti]
    #6142486 - 10/07/06 04:29 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Yea, they're are not toxic as they don't do any psychical damage in normal dosages.
Just like water, or patotoes.

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Re: Are mushrooms toxic? [Re: matchbook]
    #6142724 - 10/07/06 08:32 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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matchbook said:
Not true. If it were a poison, then by definition, it would have the potential to kill, which it does not. Poisons are lethal. Toxins are a kind of poison. Mushrooms contain alkaloids. I believe those are the only "active" chemicals.





QFT. I've heard plenty of people saying they're poisonous, as if it's some unpredictable reaction. Not the case.


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Re: Are mushrooms toxic? [Re: ThreePieceSuit]
    #6142808 - 10/07/06 09:16 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

chemicals in shrooms bind to receptors in the brain and make it work differently while they are present. they eventually break down, and then they are metabolized and leave the sites. they dint affect the brain by screwing up brainwaves by destroying any part of it, and the hallucinations are not the result of the chemicals affecting the cells to an unrepairable state.

toxic no, dangerous oh hell yep.

Edited by riby (10/07/06 09:16 AM)

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Re: Are mushrooms toxic? [Re: Sporegasm]
    #6142931 - 10/07/06 10:01 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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Sporegasm said:
but as for toxic, why the hell do you think you "trip"? because hallucinating isn't normal brain function dear. So obviously its a poison of some kind. (you can "trip" off of sleep deprivation, nutmeg, datura, high fever,i n which is all very poisonous deadly and dangerous.)




Rubbish... Psilocybin\Psilocin work b/c their chemical structure is near-identical to that of serotonin... one of your major active neurotransmitters. You "trip" b/c of the action it has on these receptors. It activates some, while preventing others from being activated... Once the effects wear off, you may feel a little drowsy b/c some of the receptors may have reacted by retracting b/c of an over-abundance of serotonin-like messengers, but that quickly neutralizes back out when your regular serotonin level equalizes over the next day. :thumbup:

Also interesting is that they say that DMT is produced in your brain, and it regulates all spirituality in humans. DMT works by by the same mechanism (activating the serotonin receptors). Psilocin is just 1 oxygen molecule away from being DMT, and that allows it to be digested  w/o an MAOI. So according to some, shrooms are just "orally active DMT"... which is not toxic, but very spiritual and quite similar to your own neuro-chemistry. :grin:


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Re: Are mushrooms toxic? [Re: SDP]
    #6143165 - 10/07/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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SDP said:
Quote:

Sporegasm said:
but as for toxic, why the hell do you think you "trip"? because hallucinating isn't normal brain function dear. So obviously its a poison of some kind. (you can "trip" off of sleep deprivation, nutmeg, datura, high fever,i n which is all very poisonous deadly and dangerous.)




Rubbish... Psilocybin\Psilocin work b/c their chemical structure is near-identical to that of serotonin... one of your major active neurotransmitters. You "trip" b/c of the action it has on these receptors. It activates some, while preventing others from being activated... Once the effects wear off, you may feel a little drowsy b/c some of the receptors may have reacted by retracting b/c of an over-abundance of serotonin-like messengers, but that quickly neutralizes back out when your regular serotonin level equalizes over the next day. :thumbup:

Also interesting is that they say that DMT is produced in your brain, and it regulates all spirituality in humans. DMT works by by the same mechanism (activating the serotonin receptors). Psilocin is just 1 oxygen molecule away from being DMT, and that allows it to be digested  w/o an MAOI. So according to some, shrooms are just "orally active DMT"... which is not toxic, but very spiritual and quite similar to your own neuro-chemistry. :grin:





On that note, I'd like to say that psilocybin is in shrooms, when you eat, it gets to you liver, .. converts in to psilocin, and is sent to your brain, via blood...

And, that when you see darkness, and such, you convert serotonin, in to melatonin, which is what makes you sleepy.. (And me deprived..) Heh...


BTW: This is what happens when I post drunk..

Please do correct me, or second it.. :P

I wonder....

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Re: Are mushrooms toxic? [Re: Gomp]
    #6143253 - 10/07/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I have read before that when you mix shrooms with alcohol it becomes more toxic to the liver. It never killed me yet though :-).

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Re: Are mushrooms toxic? [Re: Gomp]
    #6143273 - 10/07/06 12:50 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Thats not correct, it takes a minimum of 24 hours  before anything solid that you ingest is acctually digested fully and filterd. The moment the acids in your stomach start breaking down the mushrooms is when the chemical is released into your system. Not in the liver or anywhere else. Unlike alcohol which is a liquid and is sent through the body and filtered within 2-3 hours  :crazy2:

Edited by kikhimwenhesdown (10/07/06 12:51 PM)

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Re: Are mushrooms toxic? [Re: SDP]
    #6143279 - 10/07/06 12:52 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

SDP said:
Quote:

Sporegasm said:
but as for toxic, why the hell do you think you "trip"? because hallucinating isn't normal brain function dear. So obviously its a poison of some kind. (you can "trip" off of sleep deprivation, nutmeg, datura, high fever,i n which is all very poisonous deadly and dangerous.)




Rubbish... Psilocybin\Psilocin work b/c their chemical structure is near-identical to that of serotonin... one of your major active neurotransmitters. You "trip" b/c of the action it has on these receptors. It activates some, while preventing others from being activated... Once the effects wear off, you may feel a little drowsy b/c some of the receptors may have reacted by retracting b/c of an over-abundance of serotonin-like messengers, but that quickly neutralizes back out when your regular serotonin level equalizes over the next day. :thumbup:

Also interesting is that they say that DMT is produced in your brain, and it regulates all spirituality in humans. DMT works by by the same mechanism (activating the serotonin receptors). Psilocin is just 1 oxygen molecule away from being DMT, and that allows it to be digested  w/o an MAOI. So according to some, shrooms are just "orally active DMT"... which is not toxic, but very spiritual and quite similar to your own neuro-chemistry. :grin:




listen to SDP

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