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Re: Psilocybe Friscosa thread [Re: Ice House Shaman]
    #6140621 - 10/06/06 02:16 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Wasn't even aware of such species. A chance of some citation?


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Psilocybe Friscosa thread [Re: baycafe]
    #6140984 - 10/06/06 04:22 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

If it's similiar macroscopically to Ps. cyanescens, azurescens, and cyanfibrilosa, what are the differences? I mean, I realize you think you may have found it...but what made you think you found it?

Was it simple how you reacted on bioassay, or was there a distinct physical feature that made you go "hmmmmm."?

I am curious, not skepitical. Woodlovers are very interesting to me.

Some info I've dug up from this site:

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I hope the updated psilocybe list contains info on the new bay area species aka cyanofriscosa.




Guzman has seen a collection that I've sent him - he identifies it as Psilocybe cyanescens, but I'm not so sure. I'm doing work on this group for my California monograph. I think the California "cyanofibrillosa" is a distinct species, but on the other hand, I see a range of gradation between P. cyanescens and "cyanofriscoa", which implies that they might be crossing with each other, which would make them the same biological species. (Note that interfertility between P. azurescens and P. cyanescens has also been demonstrated.)

My schedule for publishing my California monograph won't be until next year, so unless there's a delay in Guzman's finishing his world monograph, a lot of my findings won't be incorporated into that work. (Since I've done lots of in-depth study of California Psilocybe populations that Guzman isn't able to do - which would be true of anybody writing a regional monograph as opposed to a world one - the information in my monograph will not be redundant.) Its to be expected, though, that there will continue to be ongoing work on the genus and lots of name changes, even after Guzman publishes his monograph.

Peter




The tallest friscosa i have ever seen was in GGP growing right next to a cyan patch. I have a mediocre cell phone picture of it. But, usually friscosas don't get much taller than a few inches, this one's stem was 5+, which is a characteristic cyans have.
I agree the new bay area species did come from cyans/fibs but i've seen them fresh right next to each other and you can distinguish a number of differences. They are a mutation of the two, in my amatuer opinion.
keep up the good work. and post some pics maybe?




Really limited...mj will probably have a response to all this.


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Re: Psilocybe Friscosa thread [Re: auweia]
    #6143322 - 10/07/06 01:06 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

In my opinion, they really just look like Ps. cyanfibrilosa. The picture where you compare the large woodlovers to the known cyanescens also just look like cyanescens. I have seen them get that large on multiple occasions.

I believe in post #6141677 that those are just simply cyanfibrilosa's.


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