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Offlineunbeliever
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Re: Jesus/God/Religion [Re: mipa]
    #6144562 - 10/07/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

This would all be much easier if you would just admit in your hearts that I am the One True God. All I ask is a small tithe of 100% of your income and a daily sexual sacrifice to my Holy Pulsating Cock.

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Re: Jesus/God/Religion [Re: gregorio]
    #6144565 - 10/07/06 07:56 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

well spoken gregorio  :thumbup:


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Re: Jesus/God/Religion [Re: mipa]
    #6144571 - 10/07/06 07:59 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/faith

1. confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
2. belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3. belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.
4. belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.
5. a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.
6. the obligation of loyalty or fidelity to a person, promise, engagement, etc.: Failure to appear would be breaking faith.
7. the observance of this obligation; fidelity to one's promise, oath, allegiance, etc.: He was the only one who proved his faith during our recent troubles.
8. Christian Theology. the trust in God and in His promises as made through Christ and the Scriptures by which humans are justified or saved.

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Re: Jesus/God/Religion [Re: unbeliever]
    #6144576 - 10/07/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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unbeliever said:
This would all be much easier if you would just admit in your hearts that I am the One True God. All I ask is a small tithe of 100% of your income and a daily sexual sacrifice to my Holy Pulsating Cock.

k?




In other words you're a pimp and want us all to be your ho's?

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Re: Jesus/God/Religion [Re: DNKYD]
    #6144603 - 10/07/06 08:12 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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DNKYD said:
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unbeliever said:
This would all be much easier if you would just admit in your hearts that I am the One True God. All I ask is a small tithe of 100% of your income and a daily sexual sacrifice to my Holy Pulsating Cock.

k?




In other words you're a pimp and want us all to be your ho's?




Isn't that what J-Chrizzle is all about?


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Re: Jesus/God/Religion [Re: unbeliever]
    #6144612 - 10/07/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Exactly.

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Re: Jesus/God/Religion [Re: DNKYD]
    #6144632 - 10/07/06 08:24 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

:smirk: :thumbup:





:bananahorsey:

You cant let GOD run your life.............

Climb on gods back and fucking ride it : :psychsplit:  :sunny:


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Re: Jesus/God/Religion [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #6146858 - 10/08/06 03:46 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)


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Re: Jesus/God/Religion [Re: DNKYD]
    #6146933 - 10/08/06 04:22 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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What's the difference between this and RELIGIONS resisting each others ideas? You don't get scientists starting the Crusades, or suicide bombing research labs and universities. You don't get power-hungry bureaucrats controlling ignorant masses with bullshit stories.



This made me laugh because Karl Marx considered himself a scientist.

I don't understand why so many right off religion because of its violent history. Why doesn't it get credit for what it did correctly?

Modern education (especially the university system), medicine (especially the hospital system), even the printed word (in the western world), all exist today because of religion. How can you so easily forget all of this, these benefits we still enjoy today, in favor of referencing a violent history that is (for the most part) behind us?

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Re: Jesus/God/Religion [Re: DrunkenAttempt]
    #6146941 - 10/08/06 04:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

right now there's a church small grounp going down in my living room. 15 christians sit and talk, spread faith, and pray.

Here I sit, on a drug site, drinking vodka, smoking cigarettes and ganj, and think about how I might have more faith than some of them.
In the end I'd say that I DO think a persons energy lives on after death, yes. PROOF? None.

Faith is a marvelous thing


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Re: Jesus/God/Religion [Re: Kerbouchard]
    #6149408 - 10/09/06 08:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

haha... Some of you seem so smart, but I think you are actually TOO smart for your own good. Most of the people who argue against my points care more about semantics and the "philosophy of science".

You are all missing the point, again.

Your arguement is flawed from the beginning because you are assuming an axiom that GOD EXISTS. Everything from that point forward is automatically flawed, and therefore untrue. And I love the person who responds to me with more bullshit from John 1:13... You can't use the bible to prove the bible, duh.

Look, we've gone from having no idea that micro-organisms exist to breaking down their DNA in a few hundred years. We've gone from car engines to spacecraft in less than 100 years. Everything that EXISTS can be broken down, figured out and studied.

Humans have been studying religion/god for THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of years with ZERO proof, ZERO data and ZERO ANYTHING. The only things religion has consistantly provided us is war, bigotry, hatred, child rape and the restriction of human freedom.

You are going to die, and everyone you know and love is going to die. You will experience a small amount of euphoria, then blackness, then nothing. Your corpse will rot, decompose and eventually every molecule of your being will breakdown, back to whence it came... you will be lost forever, forgotten. boo fuckin' hoo.

All of you can point out logical falacies and call me on semantic bullshit you learned in whatever brainwashing camp you went to, but the fact is still the same. You are all idiots and fools who believe in magic and fairy tales, and waste your precious life chasing rainbows, looking for the mystical pot o' gold...

It's just light passing through moisture particles, but for some people, it's a magic smile from god...

WAKE THE FUCK UP already.

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Re: Jesus/God/Religion [Re: DNKYD]
    #6149419 - 10/09/06 08:38 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Religion is merely mythology and control of the masses. It will drag us down until we either destroy ourselves or somehow get past it and move on to bigger and better things.




You are ignoring that there are, by there very natures, wise and peacful religions such as Buddhism.


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Re: Jesus/God/Religion [Re: Sinbad]
    #6149422 - 10/09/06 08:39 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

buddhas name be praised!



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Re: Jesus/God/Religion [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #6149555 - 10/09/06 09:42 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Look, we've gone from having no idea that micro-organisms exist to breaking down their DNA in a few hundred years. We've gone from car engines to spacecraft in less than 100 years. Everything that EXISTS can be broken down, figured out and studied.



Before we could find evidence of the existance of single celled organisms, did they fail to exist?

No, of course not, they were always there.

An abscence of evidence is not the same as evidence of abscence.

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The only things religion has consistantly provided us is war, bigotry, hatred, child rape and the restriction of human freedom.



Or how about the University system? Oh, and hospitals. Do you like printed text? Because religion gave us that and I'm pretty happy with it. How about the foundations of modern legal theory? Or should we just forget about Thomas Aquinas?

How about human freedom itself? The very ideals of freedom, liberty, and pursuit of happiness were proclaimed in America by Preachers as well as politicians (Jedidiah Morse, Timothy Dwight).

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    #6149557 - 10/09/06 09:44 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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    #6149616 - 10/09/06 10:14 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Jesus/God/Religion [Re: poke smot!]
    #6149617 - 10/09/06 10:15 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

what????


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Re: Jesus/God/Religion [Re: emilbus]
    #6149619 - 10/09/06 10:16 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I'm pretty sure all the things Economist listed would have existed without religion... in fact, mostly ALL scientific research would've been much faster without religious bullshit standing in it's way... remember Galileo?

"An abscence of evidence is not the same as evidence of abscence." <-- Religion's favorite quote. But, after all this time, I think there is abundant "evidence of abscence" concerning god... you are just too scared to accept it.

There is no magic... how hard is that to grasp?

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Re: Jesus/God/Religion [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #6149630 - 10/09/06 10:24 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm pretty sure all the things Economist listed would have existed without religion...



And I could say the same thing about war, famine, suffering, etc. Those were all ALSO clearly going to happen without religion.

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RoosterCogburn said:
in fact, mostly ALL scientific research would've been much faster without religious bullshit standing in it's way... remember Galileo?



Remember all that funding for Universities that came from the Church? Or how about their founding in the first place? I'm sure that just slowed things down...

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But, after all this time, I think there is abundant "evidence of abscence" concerning god...



Really, can you point to some?

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Re: Jesus/God/Religion [Re: Economist]
    #6149761 - 10/09/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Sure, everything would have existed without religion... Including humans, the earth and the universe. that's my point.

Funding? hahaha... The church has been sucking up money for thousands of years! They only funded universities so that they could control them. And I think that is a minute positive detail compared with the immense negative effect religion has had on science... c'mon.

As for evidence of absence?

Hmmmm.... I think that you would refute anything I could come up with, so I'd rather not waste my time. How about you read up on Russel's Teapot and get back to me... YOU should be proving god exists to me, not the other way around.

It just bothers me when adult humans believe in nonsense...

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