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Vvellum
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the writ
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lonestar2004
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Re: the writ [Re: Vvellum]
#6135714 - 10/05/06 09:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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When is this Gay soap opera going to end?????
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When the election is over, or something else catches the medias attention
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Re: the writ [Re: Vvellum]
#6136574 - 10/05/06 02:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, I guess little things like habeus corpus and the Constitution are not sexy enough.
Maybe the Constitution needs it's own television advertising campaign. It could be run during American Idol and Dancing with the Stars.
The American people and the administration seem to have forgotten it's kinda important.. if they ever knew it existed at all. (Well it did at one time).
RIP Constitution.
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Re: the writ [Re: zorbman]
#6136605 - 10/05/06 02:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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So now Foleygate is about the Constitution?
The Foley set-up starts to break open
http://americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=6289
According to two people close to former congressional page Jordan Edmund, the now famous lurid AOL Instant Message exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives....
They have to get up a lot earlier in the morning to pull this sort of thing off these days. The MSM may be dumb but we aren’t.
Present state of play—the Dems and CREW are implicated; ABC’s Brian Ross has his own Rathergate, the FBI and Ethics Committee are going to find out which Dems were involved and CREW will probably lose their tax exempt status. The Dems have shown themselves to be perfectly willing to use homophobia to win when they have no saleable platform or issues; the Republican base is charged up and once again Soros turned his gold into Dem dross.
Foley will become a living example of the Dems’ willingness to smear a homosexual for gain and will write a book, go on Oprah and make a mint. He will be this year’s wronged victim.
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So now Foleygate is about the Constitution?
I think you are missing the point of the cartoon.
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Re: the writ [Re: zorbman]
#6137384 - 10/05/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The U.S. Bill of rights is a subversive document written by liberals, so says George and co..
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xept they call it the bill of lefts.
EDIT: where is the bill of middle?
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Re: the writ [Re: zorbman]
#6137523 - 10/05/06 07:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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zorbman said: So now Foleygate is about the Constitution?
I think you are missing the point of the cartoon.
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Re: the writ [Re: Vvellum]
#6137645 - 10/05/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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bi0 said:
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zorbman said: So now Foleygate is about the Constitution?
I think you are missing the point of the cartoon.
Hence we see the american affliction.
Everyone is as oblivious as a comatose blind and deaf man
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Quote:
ToiletDuk said: The U.S. Bill of rights is a subversive document written by liberals, so says George and co..
This is really funny to me, because back in the 1930s, FDR and crew were complaining that the constitution was written by a bunch of whack-job conservatives.
Of course, it was a lot funnier when all the Liberals complained that GW was "packing the court" when that technique was made famous by FDR and crew...
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Then again FDR and crew never introduced anything as oppressive as the patriot act.
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Re: the writ [Re: Alex213]
#6139305 - 10/06/06 03:51 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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No, but previous presidents have done things that showed even more contempt for the citizens.
the word "hooverville" comes to mind.
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Re: the writ [Re: Alex213]
#6140694 - 10/06/06 02:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Alex213 said: Then again FDR and crew never introduced anything as oppressive as the patriot act.
Other than pretty much all the New Deal legislation. All of that still affects me more than the PAtriot Act ever has.
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Re: the writ [Re: Alex213]
#6140788 - 10/06/06 03:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Japanese internment camps, anyone? Do you know anything at all about American history?
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Re: the writ [Re: Konnrade]
#6140877 - 10/06/06 03:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Both FDR and Lincoln suspended liberties temporarily. They were restored at the end of those wars which lasted only four years each.
One deeply troubling aspect of our current situation is that the administration has stated that the so-called 'War on Terror' will probably last generations, possibly a century or longer. Once these rights are taken they will not be returning anytime soon, folks. So more and more power will accrue to the executive over time with those opposing each step framed as "coddlers of terrorists".
Our founding fathers bequeathed us these protections largely because they believed that the greatest threat from tyranny would not come from outside the country but from inside the country.
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Japanese internment camps
I was actually thinking about this just the other day. Those camps during WW2 is a perfect example of how a govt reacts to a threat from a certain type of people. If they were at all worried about a threat from arabs they would be locking them all up or kicking them out. Hell, in WW2 they didn't even have to worry about terrorism like we supposedly do now (dirty bomb anyone?). Yet they lead us to believe it only takes 1 person to slip through the anti-terrorism net to get us and they are just letting the arabs run free all over our country?
You can easily tell they don't view them as a threat or they would clearly react as they did in WW2. They aren't worried about arabs because the damn arabs aren't behind the shit and the high ups in the govt handing out orders know it.
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RosettaStoned said: You can easily tell they don't view them as a threat or they would clearly react as they did in WW2. They aren't worried about arabs because the damn arabs aren't behind the shit and the high ups in the govt handing out orders know it.
Or, you know, they could have learned from the Internment Camps example that it's wrong to lock people up based upon nothing aside from their race, and they don't want to repeat that mistake. They could also have learned that the US populace won't stand for that kind of discimination ever again.
But no, let's skip these obvious reasons and get right to conspiracies!
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They could also have learned that the US populace won't stand for that kind of dissemination ever again.
Maybe we should create a "new kind" of ensemination..err..discrimination with a brand new class of people. We can imprison or expel these new people and solve our problem.
Seriously, there are certainly important matters before Congress related to the dire threat of terror which will need to be addressed. We may need to suspend the Constitution, but in the meantime there is the urgent matter of the Foley investigation. Also Angelina Jolie will be testifying on Capitol hill about some important things. I can't recall what exactly she is testifying about, but she is a very beautiful woman and you must admit that staring at her for an hour or so would not be half bad. Rumor has it that she will be wearing a shiny object dangling between her breasts which reflects different colours of the light spectrum.
My bad. What were we talking about again?
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Re: the writ [Re: zorbman]
#6142335 - 10/07/06 01:50 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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zorbman said: Both FDR and Lincoln suspended liberties temporarily. They were restored at the end of those wars which lasted only four years each.
One deeply troubling aspect of our current situation is that the administration has stated that the so-called 'War on Terror' will probably last generations, possibly a century or longer. Once these rights are taken they will not be returning anytime soon, folks. So more and more power will accrue to the executive over time with those opposing each step framed as "coddlers of terrorists".
Our founding fathers bequeathed us these protections largely because they believed that the greatest threat from tyranny would not come from outside the country but from inside the country.
One thing our forefathers didn't predict was that much of the population wouldn't give a damn as long as it doesn't interrupt their deer hunting trip this weekend.
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