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Re: Golden teachers didn't teach! [Re: Brainiac]
    #8505731 - 06/10/08 01:38 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I did pretty good with golden teachers


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Re: Golden teachers didn't teach! [Re: Brainiac]
    #8506719 - 06/10/08 11:37 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

No I didn't, sorry.


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Re: Golden teachers didn't teach! [Re: AAAJ]
    #8600635 - 07/06/08 02:36 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry to bump old threads but after I saw this I had to contribute. 

I recently crumbled and cased (no bulk spawning on this particular run) 3 1/2 pint golden teacher BRF cakes and then cased with 50/50+.  I received the spores from a very reputable Shroomery vendor.  Anywho, the first flush was great, about 21g dried.  They were all grinded down into fine shake/powder and put into capsules, of which each capsule averaged at .5 gram.

Anywho, I let a few people guinea pig them last night, starting off with 2 grams (4 capsules).  All three people who ingested them were on relatively empty stomachs, and no one felt anything!  I realize this is not a heavy dose by any means, but I've always felt fine off 2-3 grams.

I was shocked and was simply curious if it was because they were straight BRF cakes crumbled and cased, or if I received some non-potent golden teachers? 

Here is a picture of the casing right before picking, anyone have any idea why there were no effects with these GTs?



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Re: Golden teachers didn't teach! [Re: AbaZabba]
    #8600648 - 07/06/08 02:39 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

you didnt isolate a sub strain.. this has been covered millions of times.. lol

IF YOU ARE USING SPORES, DO NOT EXPECT CONSISTENT RESULTS.. You need to isolate a sub strain, then grow that.. you will use the same syringe, and next time get the most potent shrooms ever, or maybe not.. multi spore inoculations DO NOT give you the same results every single time.. just like when they isolate strains of weed, crossbreed, etc.. They are picking the best traits of the plant, and making a strong mother that clones can be taken off of...

so yeah... isolate a strain that has potency, and grow that.. lol.. sorry...


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Re: Golden teachers didn't teach! [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #8600667 - 07/06/08 02:43 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

although, you can do some more multi spore nocs, and wait till you get some potent mushies, and take a chunk of fungus from that mushy, or the sub it grew on, and put that in a brf jar, and let that grow.. then, after it grows, crumble it up in a zip lock bag, then use each individual chunk to noc up more jars, and always keep an extra to make more jars.. you will essentially clone it.. I have done this with a B+ isolate for 2 years.. And I get damn near the same exact results every time..


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Re: Golden teachers didn't teach! [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #8600670 - 07/06/08 02:44 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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DJYoshaBYD said:
you didnt isolate a sub strain.. this has been covered millions of times.. lol

IF YOU ARE USING SPORES, DO NOT EXPECT CONSISTENT RESULTS.. You need to isolate a sub strain, then grow that.. you will use the same syringe, and next time get the most potent shrooms ever, or maybe not.. multi spore inoculations DO NOT give you the same results every single time.. just like when they isolate strains of weed, crossbreed, etc.. They are picking the best traits of the plant, and making a strong mother that clones can be taken off of...

so yeah... isolate a strain that has potency, and grow that.. lol.. sorry...




I have never seen this problem in the past with the mixture of sub strains that already come in the syringe.  I would think the mixture would be potent enough to at LEAST get a feeling on being ground up and combined together.  Any idea how big a role spawning to bulk as opposed to simply crumbling and casing plays on potency?


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Re: Golden teachers didn't teach! [Re: AbaZabba]
    #8600801 - 07/06/08 03:21 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i always get variable potency from multispore. 

also, (i might be imagining this) it seems to me that the first fruits (the big strong guys) are the most potent, and potency decreases on 2nd and third flushes.

or, maybe i'm just building a huge tolerance, but recently I've been using about 6 grams for a single dose of tea :crazy2::crazy2::crazy2:


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Re: Golden teachers didn't teach! [Re: nonlinear]
    #8601337 - 07/06/08 06:37 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I just recently started packing my crops into capsules and I've had a few of my friends call up 2 hours after taking some and say that they weren't feeling anything. Invariably they would call back an hour later and barely be able to operate their phones. Some people just take forever to digest the capsules I guess. You may want to try using some of the powder with a different ingestion method just to make certain that it's the shrooms that are causing the problem.

A lot of people (myself included) have had difficult to explain batches of duds. Often they seem to be on less nutritious substrates, but the same substrates also produce great shrooms sometimes, so it's probably a genetic thing. With multi-spore, try to have a few grows going simutaneously. Like DJYoshaBYD said, the multi-spore results will vary wildly. Total duds are pretty rare though, so if you have a couple things going, the chances of getting all duds is slim. And if you take the above advice and clone, you'll never have the problem again.

Doesn't mean anything since multi-spore varies so much, but my huge batch of duds was from a GT syringe too. Of course my ass-kicking crops that all my friends love me for are also GTs, so I'm not gonna substrain bash.


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Re: Golden teachers didn't teach! [Re: PowerOfTheCoir]
    #8601592 - 07/06/08 07:42 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

If it's an issue of the sub strain, what qualities am I looking for in cloning?  I would assume the largest and most vigorous, but how are you to know a species is more potent than the other without cloning it and then growing out that selection and eating some?

I wish I had some GT's that I knew for SURE we viable so I could do a side by side comparison of the two sub strains.  This is interesting and disappointing at the same time, I'm hoping the B+'s I spawned to bulk that are surfacing do not have the same effect.


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Re: Golden teachers didn't teach! [Re: AbaZabba]
    #8601621 - 07/06/08 07:47 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Possibly senescence.  Search RogerRabbits posts and he talks about it.


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Re: Golden teachers didn't teach! [Re: AbaZabba]
    #8601640 - 07/06/08 07:52 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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AbaZabba said:
If it's an issue of the sub strain, what qualities am I looking for in cloning?  I would assume the largest and most vigorous, but how are you to know a species is more potent than the other without cloning it and then growing out that selection and eating some?




If you're isolating a substrain, sector out the fastest, strongest rhizomorphic growth. If you're cloning, pick your nicest, largest fruit.

That's the problem with cloning fruit bodies and isolating from multi-spore. You don't know what you're getting until you have a chance to try the results.


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Re: Golden teachers didn't teach! [Re: AbaZabba]
    #8603389 - 07/07/08 10:24 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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AbaZabba said:
If it's an issue of the sub strain, what qualities am I looking for in cloning?  I would assume the largest and most vigorous, but how are you to know a species is more potent than the other without cloning it and then growing out that selection and eating some?





that was my point, you have to try a lot of different clones since you can never know which ones will be winners. Do some research on liquid culture and agar. When you make a clone, you save a "master" sample of it so that if it turns out to be a winner, you can go back to your master and use that clone indefinitely.


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Re: Golden teachers didn't teach! [Re: HoleSnype]
    #8603432 - 07/07/08 10:46 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i fail to see where anyone was trashing someone "thats been selling spores longer than anyone else":thumbup:


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