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bob woodard has proof bush is lying
    #6122933 - 10/01/06 10:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/01/woodwards-60-minutes-interview-on-state-of-denial/

the right will of course take this truth backed up by fact and taped interviews and spin it. they will paint woodard as an agenda driven leftist and attack his character. the spin will be in full effect tomorrow morning. they are so predictable over there, simple, usually bigoted and predictable.

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Re: bob woodard has proof bush is lying [Re: stinkyshroom]
    #6122997 - 10/01/06 10:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I can think of several million people who have proof that bush has lied. They're called americans, and the proof is on their TV at least once a week.

Seriously, it's not even worth making a big deal out of it anymore. Our president lying is as natural to us as taking a shit.


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Re: bob woodard has proof bush is lying [Re: stinkyshroom]
    #6123087 - 10/01/06 11:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

He will be interviewed Monday night 10/02 on Larry King Live.


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Re: bob woodard has proof bush is lying [Re: zorbman]
    #6123282 - 10/02/06 02:16 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm pretty sure any other country would have dragged Bush out of office by his ears and sentenced him a long time ago. This is really a phenominal allowance that he's receiving from his country.

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Re: bob woodard has proof bush is lying [Re: Disco Cat]
    #6123306 - 10/02/06 02:27 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Blair got away with the same lies. Trouble is there's no left-leaning party in the UK so no-one had a choice at the election. Both Blair and the conservatives went along with the lies.

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Re: bob woodard has proof bush is lying [Re: stinkyshroom]
    #6124272 - 10/02/06 12:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It's hard to hold people like bush accountable for their lies when they have changed the very meaning of basic words in the mindset of half the population.

No longer is a lie a lie, now it's called "spin" and is perfectly acceptable. Even when you can prove it, there are still morons who can somehow bend the english language until it suits them. The right has not only hijacked our country but our value system, our language, our constitution and our collective common sense.


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Re: bob woodard has proof bush is lying [Re: Disco Cat]
    #6124468 - 10/02/06 01:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm pretty sure any other country would have dragged Bush out of office by his ears and sentenced him a long time ago. This is really a phenominal allowance that he's receiving from his country.



What are you talking about?

Have you seen how other countries around the world are run?

Italy flat out supported a confirmed liar for years in the form of Berlusconi. Margaret Thatcher held office till the end of the decade even after that Falkland Islands incident. Chirac has been running France with an approval rating of 32%.

And those are the countries with fair and open elections.

Vladimir Putin anyone?

Once you start looking into Eastern Europe, South East Asian, hell even parts of South/Central America, then the real fun starts.

I'm sorry but Bush isn't getting any amazing pass from the American people when other leaders of the world are taken into account.

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Re: bob woodard has proof bush is lying [Re: Economist]
    #6124656 - 10/02/06 01:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Once you start looking into Eastern Europe, South East Asian, hell even parts of South/Central America, then the real fun starts.

I'm sorry but Bush isn't getting any amazing pass from the American people when other leaders of the world are taken into account.


Somehow that is not very comforting.


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Re: bob woodard has proof bush is lying [Re: stinkyshroom]
    #6124867 - 10/02/06 03:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Bob Woodward's the centrist right? And Bernstein is the lefty?


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Re: bob woodard has proof bush is lying [Re: Economist]
    #6125528 - 10/02/06 06:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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What are you talking about?

Have you seen how other countries around the world are run?

Italy flat out supported a confirmed liar for years in the form of Berlusconi. Margaret Thatcher held office till the end of the decade even after that Falkland Islands incident. Chirac has been running France with an approval rating of 32%.

And those are the countries with fair and open elections.

Vladimir Putin anyone?

Once you start looking into Eastern Europe, South East Asian, hell even parts of South/Central America, then the real fun starts.

I'm sorry but Bush isn't getting any amazing pass from the American people when other leaders of the world are taken into account.



Yes he is. All countries are tolerant to some level, but the effects of the wrecklessness by the man in question are beyond the rest. He's done more to wreck his country than any other, and he's making his people's, and other countries people's lives terrible, and (this is a very important bit too) he is doing it only by the allowance of a state of democracy. It's a false state of deomocracy, but it still needs to be pretended to exist enough to prevent the actual citizens from doing anything about it. The country is not in the state where things are out of the control of it's population, if they would put down their foot.

You response seems to be suggesting that corruption exists elsewhere therefore this is no different, but this is all about severity of corruption in view of what the man started with. This is on a level that is incomparable, and yes, absolutely different.

This is a case where the system has not been set up to allow the leader to do any of these things without the permission of the people, as opposed to other systems, so his actions are entirely dependent on the people choosing to do nothing to stop him, and that is exactly what they are continuously choosing to do. In other words, they are handing the power right into his hands and giving him their blessing. Granted, they are probably most only doing so because half of them are not bright enough to put 2 and 2 together, and the other half are without backbone or don't care.

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Re: bob woodard has proof bush is lying [Re: Economist]
    #6128605 - 10/03/06 01:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Vladimir Putin anyone?





Could you tell me why you listed Putin up there? I've been reading daily several Russian newsites for a long time and Putin seems to be a highly intelligent and moral leader. He's heavily improved Russia in his time, consequently he's wanted by his people to stay on for a 3rd term, which he's declined to look into due to his moral obligations to adhere to the constitution. While Bush is enemy of the world, Putin is pretty considerate to other countries.

That reaaly puts him 180 degrees from Bush.

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