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OfflineSirTripAlot
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The Prophet in Bobblehead Form........(watch out!!)
    #6121791 - 10/01/06 05:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Bobblehead Muhammed?




BY TINA MOORE
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

A ceramic bobblehead doll of the Prophet Muhammed - created to resemble the infamous caricature published by a Danish newspaper - is being hawked online for $22.99 a pop by an ex-Marine.
The unapologetic creator, Timothy Ames, 28, said the bobblehead is similar to "dashboard Jesus" figurines that can be stuck with adhesive to flat surfaces. "I thought, 'If they flipped out over some cartoons what will they do with a dashboard Muhammed?'" Ames said from his home in Hawaii.

But Islamic experts are not amused, saying the bobbleheads could anger Muslims, whose religion strictly prohibits depictions of the prophet.

"No depiction of the prophet, even if it is positive, should be made ever - and certainly not one as ridiculous as the bobblehead Muhammed," said Zvi Ben-Dor Benite, an assistant professor at New York University. "I don't think it's about freedom of speech. This is the freedom to insult, which he shouldn't be doing."

Ames said several hundred people have purchased the dolls online, and he has paid a Chinese manufacturer to create 1,000 more. "I just think it's funny," he said.

Violent protests erupted last winter across the Muslim world after a Danish newspaper published cartoons lampooning the Prophet Muhammed as a suicide bomber. Many European papers reprinted the cartoons.

"People who get p----d off about this, they're going to get p----d off regardless," Ames, a baptized Christian, said.

The sophomoric Web site where Ames, using the pen name "Filthy," sells the bobbleheads also features a collection of scattered rants. In one, he writes: "I'm really not into slamming people just for their religion. Most of the stupid people I've met are stupid despite their religion, not because of it."

Frank Peters, a professor in the Department of Middle Eastern Studies at NYU, warned that a bobblehead Muhammed was "a really bad idea."

"Jews and Christians have gotten used to this kind of thing, but Muslims haven't," he said. "This may not be his intention, but these things have consequences."


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: The Prophet in Bobblehead Form........(watch out!!) [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #6121805 - 10/01/06 05:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

SirTripAlot said:
"Jews and Christians have gotten used to this kind of thing, but Muslims haven't," he said. "




Sounds like a golden opportunity for them to get over themselves and become civilized beings for once.

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Re: The Prophet in Bobblehead Form........(watch out!!) [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #6122012 - 10/01/06 06:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

"I don't think it's about freedom of speech. This is the freedom to insult, which he shouldn't be doing."

:rolleyes:


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Re: The Prophet in Bobblehead Form........(watch out!!) [Re: wilshire]
    #6122138 - 10/01/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

There is NO freedom without the freedom to insult. That is 100% what freedom of speech is about. 100%. And did I forget to add that jesus, muhamed, moses, ra, shiva, buddha, siddhartha, baba rum raisin, and all the other sacred assholes are douchebags and their followers are stupid fucknuggets. Try that on for a right. It feels good to me.


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Re: The Prophet in Bobblehead Form........(watch out!!) [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6123097 - 10/01/06 11:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Don't forget Bonehead  :laugh:


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Re: The Prophet in Bobblehead Form........(watch out!!) [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #6123114 - 10/01/06 11:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

this should really get them fired up :cool:


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Re: The Prophet in Bobblehead Form........(watch out!!) [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6123472 - 10/02/06 05:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

> There is NO freedom without the freedom to insult. That is 100% what freedom of speech is about. 100%.

Exactly. Freedom is hard. I have to be willing to stand up beside somebody that is spouting filth so foul that boils my blood and support their right to state their opinion.

> [rant... rant... rant...] and their followers are stupid fucknuggets. Try that on for a right. It feels good to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=6WiV2fyvRbs (A great song!)


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Re: The Prophet in Bobblehead Form........(watch out!!) [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #6123699 - 10/02/06 08:17 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

im for pissing off religous conservatives anywhere in this world. pissing off christian loons over here is great. pissing off muslim nutjobs is also funny. i despise all conservatives equallly

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Re: The Prophet in Bobblehead Form........(watch out!!) [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #6123965 - 10/02/06 10:57 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I love pissing religites off. I might have to buy one of these.

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Re: The Prophet in Bobblehead Form........(watch out!!) [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #6124070 - 10/02/06 11:30 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I dont enjoy pissing people off for the hell of it; however, we do have freedom of speech and if one religion is trying to take it away from me or anyone in my country... they should be insulted. I got pissed off when South Park was forced to censor their depiction, and I am just as pissed off that people are trying to pressure this guy to stop selling his bobbleheads.


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Re: The Prophet in Bobblehead Form........(watch out!!) [Re: AaronEvil]
    #6124122 - 10/02/06 11:50 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It is terrible that South Park had to censor their show, but I think it was worth it. When you get down to it, it is not a matter of free speech, but of safety. When the conservative Muslims go nuts and start offing people due to a cartoon, I don't think people should keep doing it, no matter how wrong/unfair they are.

They are just like us though, we are all humans, right basilides?

They are not like me at all, I would never kill someone over a cartoon. Even if it was one of my mother, in the post unflattering situation/act ever imagined.


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Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: The Prophet in Bobblehead Form........(watch out!!) [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6124189 - 10/02/06 12:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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It is terrible that South Park had to censor their show, but I think it was worth it. When you get down to it, it is not a matter of free speech, but of safety. When the conservative Muslims go nuts and start offing people due to a cartoon, I don't think people should keep doing it, no matter how wrong/unfair they are.




Funny, I take the exact opposite standpoint... when people start killing over a cartoon, then it is time to start really pushing the boundries. There is no way that I am going to crawl into a hole and bury my head in the sand because some fuck halfway across the world is offended by my freedoms and thinks the appropriate response is to start killing people. In this case, I am going to do absolutely everything in my power to offend these people, because, quite franky, I find their means of censorship through terror to be more dangerous and offense than pretty much anything else I can think of. I'm not a sheep to tiptoe through life walking on eggshells so that I don't accidently offend somebody else. I'll start showing a little respect when the sploidy-types quit murdering civilians for attention.


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Re: The Prophet in Bobblehead Form........(watch out!!) [Re: Seuss]
    #6124195 - 10/02/06 12:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Say you had a loved one abroad, who was killed by one of these maniacs, over a cartoon. Would you still hold the same position?

I will be for free speech, when our governments are willing to protect us abroad from these people. That means embassies that don't get over run, but shoot to kill the trespassers. Until then, we are not prepared to be putting other people's lives at risk!


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"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

Edited by alpharedecho (10/02/06 12:13 PM)

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Re: The Prophet in Bobblehead Form........(watch out!!) [Re: Seuss]
    #6124291 - 10/02/06 12:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Say you had a loved one abroad, who was killed by one of these maniacs, over a cartoon. Would you still hold the same position?




Even more so... if somebody is going to kill me or my loved ones because they find offence at what I think or say, then I am going to show them just how nasty my thoughts and opinions can get. The moment I give up my right to think what I want and to share my opinions with others is the moment I die. Nobody is going to take that right away from me without a fight, and I am not going to turn into a coward because some schmuck is threatening me or my family.

Every time somebody gives up their right to offend Islam (or anything else) out of fear is a win for the radicals and a loss for humanity.


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Re: The Prophet in Bobblehead Form........(watch out!!) [Re: Seuss]
    #6124320 - 10/02/06 12:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I share your opinion, but unless we are allowed to do something to protect ourselves/retaliate, it is pointless to get picked off by these people, while our hands are tied.

Not be told "well you offended their most sacred beliefs, etc etc etc."

Which country were the Scandinavian embassies over run in? That country should be made to pay severely, as we would never allow a foreign embassy to be over run by our native population.


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"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

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Re: The Prophet in Bobblehead Form........(watch out!!) [Re: AaronEvil]
    #6124573 - 10/02/06 01:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

From a psycological stand point, you SHOULDNT censor a cartoon because people will flip out and kill others. You dont want to show weakness to people like this. Dont show them that you are willing to give into their absurd beliefs just because you are affraid of what they might do. It like the saying "give them an inch and they will take a foot." You censor a cartoon and soon enough they will get you to censor much more. Like I said before, I will not go out of my way to offend anyone unless they are asking for it, but I dont think I would censor a cartoon because radicals around the world would be offended. They are called radicals for a reason and we should not feed the fire.


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Re: The Prophet in Bobblehead Form........(watch out!!) [Re: AaronEvil]
    #6124764 - 10/02/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

> It like the saying "give them an inch and they will take a foot."

That sums up the "why" behind my words, nicely.


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Re: The Prophet in Bobblehead Form........(watch out!!) [Re: Seuss]
    #6124776 - 10/02/06 02:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It's easy for us to talk about this from the safety of our countries.


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"I'll blow the hinges off your freakin doors with my trips, level 5 been there, I personally like x, bud, acid and shroom oj, altogether, do that combination, and you'll meet some morbid figures, lol
Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

:rofl:

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Re: The Prophet in Bobblehead Form........(watch out!!) [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #6124813 - 10/02/06 02:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I've had some axis of evil toilet paper printed up, each sheet has a portrait from a rogue's gallery of fundamentalist Muslims, fundamentalist Christians and Zionists. It gives a whole new meaning to the term, 'shit faced.'


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Re: The Prophet in Bobblehead Form........(watch out!!) [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #6124842 - 10/02/06 03:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)



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