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Bohemian Grove
    #6118650 - 09/30/06 02:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

This has to do with Politics considering all the past presidents that have been there and how observing their personal lives could explain how they could have made events like 911 happen. These rituals where what led me to seriously consider Conspiracy Theories. How could anyone dispute this video showing that our world leaders attend a mock sacrifice of children in the Cremation of Care Ceremony, under a stone owl as Moloch. The Members of Bohemian Grove claim it is a joke, a fraternity, a place to get drunk and do crazy sophomoric shit. But this ceremony seems too elaborate, too true to occult rituals when you watch the ceremony and listen to the narrative of the ceremony.If not, then why choose such a dark evil thing as a joke? Not to mention true Christians like the Bush's would never stand for this even if it where just a joke. Watch it your self and stop taking their word for it.

They break in at the 1hr mark and the ritual starts a 1:17 min if you dont want to watch the whole thing. You dont have to wait for it to download just move the timer to the proper time.

Inside Bohemian Grove Video


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Re: Bohemian Grove [Re: buckwheat]
    #6118744 - 09/30/06 03:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Is the Alex Jones video?

When Alex Jones snuck in, an author (whose name is escaping me) snuck in with him and what he saw completely contradicts the nefarious things that Jones thought was going on. I'll try to dig up the author's name. The book is a good (and funny) read.

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Re: Bohemian Grove [Re: buckwheat]
    #6118751 - 09/30/06 03:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Ok, found it. The guy's name is Jon Ronson, and the books name is "Them: Adventures With Extremists". It is a great fucking read. I'd recommend it to anyone who can read. It offers a very objective account of various different types of "extremists" in the US.

http://www.jonronson.com/them_bohemia.html

There's an extract from his book that deals with the Bohemian Grove.

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    #6118782 - 09/30/06 03:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Bohemian Grove [Re: Redstorm]
    #6118790 - 09/30/06 03:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

What exactly did he say that extract doesn't really say much.

I mean how can Alex Jones misinterpret a mock sacrifice? :shocked:

Still curious to see what he said though.

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Re: Bohemian Grove [Re: uber_aj]
    #6118859 - 09/30/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Redstorm - Sounds interesting, id love to hear the title of the book

I don't know how real the Bohemian Grove is, and the loose connection to Molech from the Old Testament doesn't mean shit unless you are a Christian or Jew. The Jews of the OT said everyone was practising witchcraft and sorcery, was an evil "pagan," and did all this horrible shit. The rituals Jones described could just be a reenactment of Hosea 13:16 when god rips opern pregant women and smashes their feti on rocks for not giving sacrifice to Yaweh.

as nefarious as Jones wants to make it look, so what? mock human sacrifice is still better than child molestation. Its just like Freemasonry in the early 1900s, everyone heard about this underground 'cult' that involved a lot of prominent figures, and they all freaked out. theories about the NWO and world domination arose, the name Baphomet got thrown around some more, but its not a big fucking deal. if Christianity wasnt so popular, outsiders would probably appalled at the idea of transubstantiation, cannibalizing God's son.

I just hope i get rich/famous enough to go the grove sometime. unfortunately TX is one of the states where you still have to be 21 to join Freemasonry, so I have to wait for that too.




It is clearly burning effigy to a stone owl.Like Moloch except it's not a bull. But the owl seems to be found protecting Lilith?


As for it not being as nefarious at it seems id say that is subjective

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Re: Bohemian Grove [Re: buckwheat]
    #6118869 - 09/30/06 03:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

props on the research, but you have facts mixed with fiction at this point.

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How could anyone dispute this video showing that our world leaders attend a mock sacrifice of children in the Cremation of Care Ceremony, under a stone owl as Moloch.




This is an ancient ritual that dates back to the Druids, and Care is not a child. Care has a deep voice, and is an effigy / metaphor for caring / guilt / etc. It was exposed as far back as 1899, as you can read on wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove#Cremation_of_Care

This is indeed fascinating, but make sure you don't put too much interest into it, because there are much more important things going on in the world of conspiracy then these ceremonies. Keep searchin!


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Re: Bohemian Grove [Re: buckwheat]
    #6118916 - 09/30/06 04:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

You really should read the book. It offers some great firsthand information on what goes down at that place.

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Re: Bohemian Grove [Re: Redstorm]
    #6118952 - 09/30/06 04:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Even if he doesnt think its bad I still dislike what they do there.

World leaders pretending to sacrifice children. this doesnt raise any eyebrows??


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Re: Bohemian Grove [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #6118985 - 09/30/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

They dont pretend to sacrifice children though. I confused it with Moloch which is what the Owl is called by Alex Jones but like kotic said its the cremation of care. mock human sacrifice none the less.

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    #6119007 - 09/30/06 04:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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    #6129518 - 10/03/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I can end this whole thing very quickly. I have been there many times. It’s not what Alex Jones says it is. Its a men’s club, they get drunk and run around naked. That’s it. Alex Jones has no credibility in my eyes since I know for a fact that he wrong about the motives behind the grove... The reason it’s so secret is because they believe in the whole "what happens here stays here” concept. They are not lizard people, lol... As for the cremation of care, its an old ritual that stuck, it has no religious or outside meaning.



P.S. Its fun to climb on the owl statue. -_-

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Re: Bohemian Grove [Re: telltale13]
    #6129534 - 10/03/06 05:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

How do you "know for a fact that he wrong about the motives behind the grove"?


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Re: Bohemian Grove [Re: Trepiodos]
    #6129544 - 10/03/06 05:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Alex Jones seems to believe that this is some larger plot that has to do with other organizations such as skull and bones, that is for the elite who help each other reach high levels of power. I know many people who are members of the club. They know these so called elite, and when at the club everyone is pretty much equal. Guys have fun getting drunk and for the most part don’t give a shit about politics and the outside world. The leaders of the organization are just older men, they have other places that they meet as well and play cards and smoke cigars.

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Re: Bohemian Grove [Re: telltale13]
    #6130376 - 10/03/06 09:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I know many people who are members of the club.  They know these so called elite, and when at the club everyone is pretty much equal.




thanks for the insight!  glad that's all cleared up now.  Of course, putting all the most powerful and wealthy people in this country together in one place... who would even imagine they would talk about politics.. that's just foolish!  :rolleyes:


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Re: Bohemian Grove [Re: kotik]
    #6130511 - 10/03/06 09:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

did anyone mention that women are not allowed?

there is no big deal, they are fairly open about the whole thing, and there is nothing illegal about the proceedings..... it is just kind of sketchy.

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    #6130515 - 10/03/06 09:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

well I happen to like women

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Re: Bohemian Grove [Re: telltale13]
    #6130774 - 10/03/06 10:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

And what proof do you have of what you speak? You mean to tell me govt elites get together to attend pagan rituals for fun? Those were absolutely pagan by anyones definition. So they are practicing the old ways for shits n giggles?

That was clearly an open air ceremony and the people there recognized what was happening and were pleased by it. What do they know about what they are watching that gives them pleasure? Some of these men were cheering like someone scored a touchdown, the average american would not have gotten such a reaction from that display I can tell you that for certain.


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Re: Bohemian Grove [Re: RosettaStoned]
    #6130830 - 10/03/06 11:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yea women are not allowed, they are allowed to go during the day however, for visits of the grounds. They have weddings there as well actually.

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Re: Bohemian Grove [Re: telltale13]
    #6131390 - 10/04/06 05:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

To speculate, for even a second, what the most elite class of the world does for fun, or what they find entertaining... would be quite a speculation to say the least.

If anyone is interested enough to speculate, the least you can do is review unbiased AND biased reviews. In actuality, it seems to be a mixture of both fun / business. The grove is divided into many different camps, and some camps are guarded by secret service to block others within the grove, but from different camps.

This illustrates more of an adult summer-camp (or even a burning-man for rich old white men) than anything else, however instead of sneaking in dirty magazines and weed, you might imagine how some of the more wealthy, and say.. spoiled elite may behave. To say that NOTHING inappropriate takes place, or that NOTHING political takes place, would deem you as a complete fool, drowning in ignorance and perhaps apathy. I can't say either way what the true intentions are, but these people don't get to where they are at, by ignoring each others positions and having fun, they build connections and talk business as a living.


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