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Annapurna1
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fascist X child molester = repugnican... surprise..surprise..surprise...
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zappaisgod
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Re: Foley Leaves In Hurry [Re: Annapurna1]
#6124960 - 10/02/06 03:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ever heard of Mel Reynolds?
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Re: Foley Leaves In Hurry [Re: zappaisgod]
#6124993 - 10/02/06 03:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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SirTripAlot said: So much for "family values". What a fucking pulsating stain on the Republican party. Goes to show that NO side of the isle is fit, nor represents, the American populace.
Unfortunately, this shows that they represent the American populace all too well.
Am I taking your post the right way????? American would vote for represntation by child molestors/perverts???????
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I don't know if the IMs rise to the level of illegality though since the age of consent in DC is 16 and I've never heard of any busts until somebody actually tries to make physical contact.
Age of consent has nothing to do with this case, period. First of all, the age of consent in DC of 16 years old applies for marriage with both parents consent. Otherwise it is 18 years old. Regardless, age of consent is not the issue in this type of case, the issue is whether sex crimes over the internet have been committed by Mr. Foley. The "irony" of it is that ex-Congressman Foley helped author the bills that make internet sex with a minor a sex crime and a registerable offense. Physical contact doesn't have to be made.
The latest news is that Hastert just yesterday on a Sunday has decided he should call the FBI to investigate the case.
And Foley has just now decided that after all he is an alcoholic and has checked into rehab.
And the beat goes on...
Here's the important phrase in my post...."I don't know". Neither do you. He has not been arrested, the evidence is clear and quite public, and he's out of Congress. Hastert is calling for an FBI investigation because he didn't know, nor did any other prominent Republican, about the IMs, which are the problem. Do you know what he wants investigated? Who knew about these 3 year old IMs, who told the press, why didn't they come forward earlier, and is there a particular stench to the timing?
I don't give a fuck what Foley does. He can throw himself under a train and I would dance.
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Re: GOP Staff Warned Pages About Foley in 2001 [Re: Trepiodos]
#6125071 - 10/02/06 04:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Trepiodos said: Check this out : GOP Staff Warned Pages About Foley in 2001
How long have the 'deciders' in the leadership of the GOP (Grand Old Perverts) known about this? Did the party of Jesus Christ, bringers of love, peace, democracy and intermittent electricity to Baghdad cover up a pervert's actions directed at UNDER AGE BOYS? If so, why? Are their motivations purely keeping and increasing power? Have they no guiding moral principles? (We know they don't look to the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence for guidance.) Are sexual predations just another form of collateral damage in political warfare? Has DC (The District of Corruption) truly become 'Rome on The Potomac?' Can somebody please start regurgitating the GOP talking points on this matter before too many questions are asked?
Here is the "warning" from the misleadingly titled article:
"Loraditch, the president of the Page Alumni Association, said the pages were told "don't get too wrapped up in him being too nice to you and all that kind of stuff."
That's it. ABC is getting a little full of itself. I wonder how long they sat on these tidbits before they went forward. I'd love to see some journalists before a congressional committee. Not revealing sources is something they might (wrongly) be able to demand but there would be no reason for them to conceal the timing of their awareness. They can't plead the first amendment on that one. They'll have to take the fifth. This could be fun. Deliberately witholding information of this child abuse (if that's what it is) until just before an election might well be considered tampering with that election. Especially if he was still out there doing what he was doing to other pages the whole time.
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Are sexual predations just another form of collateral damage in political warfare?
If someone knew these things and sat on the information until just before an election to discredit totally uninvolved members of the opposition party, with the possibility of new victims being made every day, then you are quite right. The Democrats and their mainstream media enablers will have certainly crossed a line. Will we find out before November?
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Re: GOP Staff Warned Pages About Foley in 2001 [Re: zappaisgod]
#6125183 - 10/02/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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if democrats had acess to these IMs then why wouldn't the republicans know about them too? way to make a bunch of random assumptions. i love how you take this and try to turn it around on the democrats. it's classic. it's also ridiculous foil hattery.
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luvdemshrooms
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LunarEclipse said: Still, it will be hard to find a replacement with as much "first hand" experience in the field of child exploitation.
They could give his job to Mel Reynolds.
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First of all, the age of consent in DC of 16 years old applies for marriage with both parents consent. Otherwise it is 18 years old.
BBzzzzTTTT! Wrong.
Via Lexis, in D.C. Code § 22-3001 -- defining crimes of sexual acts against children -- section (3) provides: "'Child' means a person who has not yet attained the age of 16 years."
D.C. Code § 46-403 (2006) provides: "The following marriages in said District shall be illegal, and shall be void from the time when their nullity shall be declared by decree, namely: . . . (4) When either of the parties is under the age of consent, which is hereby declared to be 16 years of age."
Age of consent = 16
Still, the guys a sleaze.
I'm curious..... is your moral outrage as strong when you read about female teachers ACTUALLY sleeping with underage male students?
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http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/15664723.htm
LEGAL FALLOUT Foley could face charges under child sex laws he helped createInvestigators must decide whether former U.S. Rep. Mark Foley will be charged under tough new child sex-crime laws he championed. BY MARY ELLEN KLAS AND JAY WEAVER meklas@MiamiHerald.com A conviction for soliciting sex from a minor in Florida can draw five years prison time and a label: child sex predator, complete with your address listed on the Internet, searchable by Zip code for all to see.
But until July, no one tracked the whereabouts of sex predators if they left the state. That changed when U.S. Rep. Mark Foley helped push through the passage of the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006, which created a national sex-crimes registry and increased penalties for such crimes against children.
As the FBI and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigate whether Foley broke the law when he sent sexually explicit Internet messages to congressional pages, they will be armed with cyber crime laws he helped pass, as well as others that impose tough new penalties on child sex offenders.
Florida law prohibits anyone from ''encouraging, offering or soliciting sexual conduct'' over the Internet with anyone under 18. Child predators face a minimum of five years in prison and a $5,000 fine, with steeper penalties for repeat offenders.
Congress has also passed laws that impose new penalties on child sex crimes, ranging from five to 25 years in prison.
The new federal law Foley championed is part of a crackdown on child sex solicitation over the Internet, as politicians seize on what state and federal authorities say is an increasing threat to kids from illicit Web pages, online chat rooms, e-mails and other electronic methods.
The crackdown has resulted in hundreds of new federal child-solicitation and sex-tourism prosecutions nationwide, especially by the FBI and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and 47 federally funded local law enforcement task forces.
Such investigations have become commonplace for the FBI, which often uses the latest cyber techniques to target suspects in undercover probes. They have also become routine for local law enforcement, said Mitchell Nixon, head of the Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force of North Florida.
Each of these cases hinges on one principle, he said: ''It's a violation of Florida law for an adult to knowingly contact a child and knowingly transmit sexual information'' over the Internet.
South Florida has been fertile ground for a variety of child-exploitation cases over the Web. For example:
• On Monday, the FBI announced the arrest of Rosaire Bosivert of Davie for downloading and sharing child pornography.
• In December, Adam McDaniel of Texas pleaded guilty to crossing state lines to have sex with a 14-year-old Fort Lauderdale girl he met in a chat room.
• And in February 2005, former Miami TV weatherman Bill Kamal was sentenced to five years for using the Internet to entice a boy to have sex. The ''boy'' turned out to be an undercover cop.
The FBI is investigating under new FEDERAL LAWS that ex-Congressman Foley helped write. So you can forget about DC laws which don't apply and their age of consent of 16. In this case, the applicable age is 18.
Consider this verbage in the law and then decide if a crime was committed in the Foley case of 2003 with the IMs (link above) ''encouraging, offering or soliciting sexual conduct''.
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Re: Foley Leaves In Hurry [Re: Annapurna1]
#6127658 - 10/03/06 08:44 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Annapurna1 said: fascist X child molester = repugnican... surprise..surprise..surprise...
Partisanship, LOL
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All well and good. However, you said the age of consent in DC is 18, I merely pointed out your error in that statement. I even quoted the sentence you used.
Why is that so hard to follow?
And I also asked a question which I notice you didn't answer. here it is again:
----------------- I'm curious..... is your moral outrage as strong when you read about female teachers ACTUALLY sleeping with underage male students? -----------------
Frankly, I'm left with the impression that what bugs you is Foley's party more so than the deed.And why no comments about Mel Reynolds. Is it OK because he's not a Republican?
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The Foley scandal is public "political mainstream news entertainment" to distract from the tyrannical legislation being passed by house and senate. Perfect timing.
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well foley has checked into a religious rehab center in tampa...
he'll be rehabilitated and saved by christ,
same as bush
no big deal...........
it worked before
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LunarEclipse
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I'm curious..... is your moral outrage as strong when you read about female teachers ACTUALLY sleeping with underage male students?
ACTUALLY, the recent case of the good looking blonde teacher who "slept" with her male student (molested) and got house arrest with no jail time and a one hour TV interview where she blamed the victim for her crimes outraged me quite a bit. Any male teacher in similar circumstances would have in all probability done prison time. What's your point?
As for Mel Reynolds, what does he have to do with the Foley case? If nothing and you want to discuss him, feel free to open a separate thread.
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Edited by LunarEclipse (10/03/06 07:05 PM)
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Re: Foley Leaves In Hurry [Re: Schwammel]
#6129786 - 10/03/06 07:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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But wait, there's more...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2524286&page=2 ABC News Foley Says He Was Abused by a ClergymanEx-Rep. Mark Foley Says He Was Abused by a Clergyman As a Teen, but Accepts Blame for E-Mails
By BRIAN SKOLOFF
WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. Oct 3, 2006 (AP)— Disgraced former Rep. Mark Foley said through his lawyer Tuesday that he was sexually abused by a clergyman as a teenager, but accepts full responsibility for sending salacious computer messages to teenage male pages.
Attorney David Roth said Foley was molested between ages 13 and 15 by a clergyman. He declined to identify the clergyman or the church, but Foley is Roman Catholic.
He also acknowledged for the first time that the former congressman is gay, saying the disclosure was part of his client's "recovery."
"Mark Foley wants you to know he is a gay man," Roth told reporters as Republicans struggled to avoid election-year fallout from the congressman's actions.
Foley represented parts of Palm Beach County for 12 years until he abruptly resigned Friday after being accused of sending lurid Internet messages to teenage boys who served as pages on Capitol Hill. The FBI and Florida law enforcement officials are investigating whether he violated any laws.
The lawyer said Foley, who is now in treatment for alcohol abuse, never had any inappropriate sexual contact with a minor. "Any suggestion that Mark Foley is a pedophile is false," he said.
He also said Foley was under the influence of alcohol when he sent the e-mails and instant messages.
Asked why Foley did not disclose the abuse sooner, Roth said, "Shame, shame."
"As is so often the case with victims of abuse, Mark advises that he kept his shame to himself for almost 40 years," Roth said.
The lurid communications were first reported last week by ABC News, which released more instant messages Tuesday that suggest Foley interrupted a vote on the House floor to chat online with a teen.
"I miss you," Foley said in one message, according to ABC.
"ya me too," the teen replied.
"we are still voting," Foley responded.
Roth said Foley was never under the influence of alcohol while conducting business on Capitol Hill, but he could not explain his previous statement that Foley was intoxicated when he sent the messages.
The race for Foley's seat has been thrust into the national spotlight as Democrats seek a net gain of 15 Republican seats to retake power in the House. Foley was considered a shoo-in for re-election before the messages surfaced.
On Monday, state Republican Party leaders selected state Rep. Joe Negron to replace Foley as their candidate in the Nov. 7 election, but under state law, Foley's name cannot be removed from the ballot even though he has withdrawn. Votes for Foley will be tallied for Negron.
Meanwhile, House Speaker Dennis Hastert cast aside calls for his resignation Tuesday amid allegations from Democrats that Republicans knew of Foley's questionable communications months ago but failed to act.
President Bush, speaking at a Stockton, Calif., elementary school, on Tuesday said he was disgusted by Foley's actions.
The House Ethics Committee scheduled its first meeting on Foley's actions for Thursday.
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Schwammel
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haha
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Re: Foley Leaves In Hurry [Re: Schwammel]
#6129805 - 10/03/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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personally any good looking female teacher would of made my life.
but acording to google males think about sex every 53 minutes and
females think about it every 6 hours...
I think about it all the time. I must be an alien!!!!
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curiouser and curiouser
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LunarEclipse
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Re: Foley Leaves In Hurry [Re: Gijith]
#6129958 - 10/03/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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So in review, last week he was a respected Congressman helping write legislation to keep our children safe from online predators and this week he is a recovering alcoholic who was molested by a clergyman 40 years ago in some church somewhere but doesn't remember who and he never touched any of the pages (unlike the unimaginable horror the unknown clergyman surely must have wreaked these shamefully long 40 years ago). Further, he didn't mean to send those IMs, after all he was drunk at the time (hence the now recovering alcoholic part).
It all fits and is a made for TV story.
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Schwammel
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thank god.... saving grace i beleive
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