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Syle
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Wondering if I am a little bit schizophrenic...?
#6106302 - 09/27/06 08:37 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am not sure if I am or not, and I don't know if people are able to tell if they are or not. I have heard that people tend to not realize they are pulling away from "reality" and such, but I figured what is the harm in asking on here.
Here are the symptoms of Schizophrenia: * A) Characteristic symptoms: Two or more of the following, each present for a significant portion of time during a one-month period (or less, if successfully treated) o delusions o hallucinations o disorganized speech (e.g., frequent derailment or incoherence; speaking in abstracts). See thought disorder. o grossly disorganized behavior (e.g. dressing inappropriately, crying frequently) or catatonic behavior o negative symptoms, i.e., affective flattening (lack or decline in emotional response), alogia (lack or decline in speech), or avolition (lack or decline in motivation).
Note: Only one Criterion A symptom is required if delusions are bizarre or hallucinations consist of hearing one voice participating in a running commentary of the patient's actions or of hearing two or more voices conversing with each other.
* B) Social/occupational dysfunction: For a significant portion of the time since the onset of the disturbance, one or more major areas of functioning such as work, interpersonal relations, or self-care, are markedly below the level achieved prior to the onset.
* C) Duration: Continuous signs of the disturbance persist for at least six months. This six-month period must include at least one month of symptoms (or less, if successfully treated) that meet Criterion A.
---I haven't had any hallucinations that I know of so far, I think that would be pretty apparent in my life; someone I know would have said something to me had I been spouting about imaginery objects/people/whatever.
I am not sure about the delusions. I read the definition of it, and I don't find myself stubborn about anything in particular to the point of delusions. This aspect sort of confuses me because if I were truly delusional about some aspects of my life, I don't think I would know it...
I have a really hard time speaking sometimes, even to people I care for and have no problems with being around. I will start thinking of something to tell them, and start explaining it, and then after about 10 seconds into explaining something to them, I lose all train of thought and my mind starts working on overload and races to all sorts of crazy and sometimes ridiculously abstract conclusions at once: do they believe what I am telling them, am i making sense, how long have i been talking, i need to get groceries in a half hour, the wall would look really nice in a fresh paint of red, etc, etc ,etc. Then, when that happens, I get a little bit uncomfortable and stop talking, sometimes right in the middle of my explanation that I am giving to them.
Sometimes, this forces me to not speak in public because I know that if I talk to a complete stranger like this, he/she will think I am nuts.
"B) Social/occupational dysfunction: For a significant portion of the time since the onset of the disturbance, one or more major areas of functioning such as work, interpersonal relations, or self-care, are markedly below the level achieved prior to the onset."
^ I haven't really witnessed any disfunction there. I take pretty good care of myself (physically) and my family and my girlfriend are still in my good graces; i think...i hope 
"C) Duration: Continuous signs of the disturbance persist for at least six months. This six-month period must include at least one month of symptoms (or less, if successfully treated) that meet Criterion A."
This has been going on for about 5 noticeable months.
Anyways, I guess the only noticeable symptom to me is the speaking thing.
What does everyone else think?
Also, sometimes I find myself daydreaming in an abstract sense, usually about an upcoming art project or musical project I am working on. when this happens I tend to totally melt away from consiousness, and I can picture perfectly in my mind what I am wanting to create; this is actually really really helpful because I tend to get some very good results with my art this way, but I am worried that it isn't normal.
anyways, I am rambling, any help would be great. thanks for reading.
***OH, I almost forgot, my grandmother was a paranoid schizophrenic, and I read that it's possible to be passed genetically.***
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Edited by Syle (09/27/06 08:40 AM)
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barfightlard
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Re: Wondering if I am a little bit schizophrenic...? [Re: Syle]
#6106512 - 09/27/06 09:37 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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sounds like social anxiety to me
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Re: Wondering if I am a little bit schizophrenic...? [Re: Syle]
#6106676 - 09/27/06 10:23 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea, social anxiety. Nothing to worry about. Maybe some shizoid tendencies but we all have them here. We do right?
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Re: Wondering if I am a little bit schizophrenic...? [Re: barfightlard]
#6106799 - 09/27/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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barfightlard said: sounds like social anxiety to me
I had this for many years and look at me now.
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Re: Wondering if I am a little bit schizophrenic...? [Re: Icelander]
#6107050 - 09/27/06 12:08 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah, the fact that youre able to make that post, shows that if you have any slight touch of skizo in you, it sure aint much.
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Re: Wondering if I am a little bit schizophrenic...? [Re: ZippoZ]
#6107423 - 09/27/06 01:59 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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whew, thanks for the replies everyone. definently relieved me to read those posts.
what should i do about this anxiety? i am generally very comfortable when around only those closest to me, and don't care that much about seeking out social scenes anyways, should i just say fuck it and go with it? or is there some form of medication i should be taking?
i already meditate to keep a sense of equilibrium, but maybe there is something more i should be doing?
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Re: Wondering if I am a little bit schizophrenic...? [Re: Syle]
#6107489 - 09/27/06 02:16 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Grounding ! You can also meditate about that, but more helpful will be the practice
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Re: Wondering if I am a little bit schizophrenic...? [Re: Syle]
#6107539 - 09/27/06 02:31 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes, this definitely sounds like anxiety to me. Definitely some social anxiety aspects, and maybe generalized anxiety.
I don't think you need medicine. I have dealt with this the past 7 months, and have come a long way. If you want some relief without prescription, look into St. John's Wort or 5-HTP. Research that on the net first, I wouldn't take what they recommend on the bottle, much less.
Read about anxiety and understand why and how frequently you think negatively or anxiously. Try to alter that. This is your cognitive behavior that may need changing.
Sorry if that was scrambled, I'm not in a position to deep think and post. But I wanted to add something. Good luck, you'll pull through, especially now that step 1 (being aware fo the problem) is done.
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Re: Wondering if I am a little bit schizophrenic...? [Re: Syle]
#6113581 - 09/28/06 10:24 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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i was thinking anxiety too. you don't need drugs for it, now that you know what it is, try to train yourself to grow out of it. when it starts to happen, try to recognize it immediately, think about why it's happening, and what caused it in each particular instance. you'll be able to condition yourself out of it, it just may take some time. in my opinion, OTC drugs are a temporary solution to the problem. i agree that st john's wort or 5-htp may be able to help you get over it.
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Re: Wondering if I am a little bit schizophrenic...? [Re: Syle]
#6114130 - 09/29/06 01:10 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Syle said: what should i do about this anxiety? i am generally very comfortable when around only those closest to me, and don't care that much about seeking out social scenes anyways, should i just say fuck it and go with it? or is there some form of medication i should be taking?
i already meditate to keep a sense of equilibrium, but maybe there is something more i should be doing?
The best advice I can give is to see a licensed psychologist, psychiatrist, or therapist. If you are willing to help yourself, you need to talk to someone about these things. The first thing you do is to define the problem, or problems. Once you better understand the things that are bothering you and their causes, you can start working on ways to deal with them. A qualified person can help untangle the knot you feel yourself trapped in.
Medication is a possibility, but psychoanalysis and therapy must always come first. You can't prescribe drugs to someone if you don't fully understand what the problem is, (assuming the problem is severe enough to warrant medication.) You might get some good advice from these forums; but seeing a good psychiatrist is the best course of action. If you can't afford a psychiatrist, find someone (wise) you can confide in and talk to about the things that are bothering you.
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Re: Wondering if I am a little bit schizophrenic...? [Re: Land_Crab]
#6114222 - 09/29/06 03:29 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's not wrong to daydream when it has a point. =) That can basically be described as creativity and imagination.
As far as talking is concerned, I think you need to find a level of comfort and confidence. The main goal is to focus and express your point. You know you can. Just do it. Don't let fear envelope you. Don't pretend that you don't know what's happening when your thoughts are racing and you feel nervous. Acknowledge that and deal with it. Are you more concerned with appearing to be in control or being in control?
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Re: Wondering if I am a little bit schizophrenic...? [Re: The_Hobbit]
#6114469 - 09/29/06 07:23 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think that perhaps you have too much energy. I would try getting a hobby. I used to be in your shoes, the best thing you can do is what humans do best : Think. Think about what you are going to say before you say it, know what you are going to say before you open your mouth. If necessary, take a vacation, distance yourself from everything and everyone for about 3 days, drugs not necessary. Just reflect, what is causing this? Make a concious effort to be more clear headed. Meditate. Sometimes you just need to be alone to figure this out. I have had many a problem in my life, more severe than most, and as long as I believe in myself (as corny as it sounds if you don't believe in yourself that's when the craziness/schizo starts) I fare well. Listen to some music go on a hike, and just relax, take it all in. All of the worlds thinking is done while walking, and if you don't know why, you will when you take a walk.
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Re: Wondering if I am a little bit schizophrenic...? [Re: moho456]
#6114820 - 09/29/06 10:00 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Talk to a Rabbi, even if you're not religious. They're quite adept at thinking and "over-thinking." I used to exhibit some of these symptoms. Indeed, I also used to fear that I could be schizophrenic and insane. Then one day I stopped worrying about what other people thought. I just figured, "if they think I'm nuts for speaking like this, then that's THEIR problem." You only know what you know. If someone doesn't understand you then don't give up, try to formulate and verbalize your ideas in another way. Once you figure out how to communicate with each person individually, life just seems much more worthwhile.
Even if the above paragraph makes no sense, remember this: you don't know what other people are thinking, and you never will. Instead focus on what YOU know and what YOU think is right. If people get offended or confused, it's their own damn fault. That's not to say that it is ok to be an ignorant asshole, but when you spend time thinking about what other people want, you lose sight of the things you need.
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Syle
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Re: Wondering if I am a little bit schizophrenic...? [Re: The_Hobbit]
#6115822 - 09/29/06 02:38 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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hobbitcg said: Are you more concerned with appearing to be in control or being in control?
that is a very good point. i think i am worrying about trying to accomplish both. that is, appearing in control of my words, and also making sure in my own mind that i am not getting too abstract for my own good. so it guess it's a bit of my ego getting in the way when it comes to the "appearance" part.
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Re: Wondering if I am a little bit schizophrenic...? [Re: moho456]
#6115833 - 09/29/06 02:41 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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moho456 said: I think that perhaps you have too much energy. I would try getting a hobby. I used to be in your shoes, the best thing you can do is what humans do best : Think. Think about what you are going to say before you say it, know what you are going to say before you open your mouth. If necessary, take a vacation, distance yourself from everything and everyone for about 3 days, drugs not necessary. Just reflect, what is causing this? Make a concious effort to be more clear headed. Meditate. Sometimes you just need to be alone to figure this out. I have had many a problem in my life, more severe than most, and as long as I believe in myself (as corny as it sounds if you don't believe in yourself that's when the craziness/schizo starts) I fare well. Listen to some music go on a hike, and just relax, take it all in. All of the worlds thinking is done while walking, and if you don't know why, you will when you take a walk.
pz
trust me, i have lots of hobbies. but this might also bring up another interesting facet to my "problem". one of my major hobbies is my band. i love getting up in front of crowds and feeling the pulse of the music intermixed with the energy of the crowd. nothing gets me off more than that. so now, how is it that i can get up in front of a crowd and pour my soul out with words and music that i created, yet when i try to have a conversation with those same people i get freaked out and start fearing the capacity of my own sanity?
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Re: Wondering if I am a little bit schizophrenic...? [Re: IamHungry]
#6115843 - 09/29/06 02:43 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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IamHungry said:
Even if the above paragraph makes no sense, remember this: you don't know what other people are thinking, and you never will. Instead focus on what YOU know and what YOU think is right. If people get offended or confused, it's their own damn fault. That's not to say that it is ok to be an ignorant asshole, but when you spend time thinking about what other people want, you lose sight of the things you need.
that is the best advice i have seen here so far. thanks for that. i will begin to practice this. perhaps i need to actually seek out social encounters and try to delve head long into conversations practicing what you just said there...
ugh, i guess i don't have any other alternative. thanks again.
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Re: Wondering if I am a little bit schizophrenic...? [Re: Syle]
#6116098 - 09/29/06 04:09 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's a good goal, bro.
From my personal perspective, I feel like we are sometimes emberrassed or scared to act on certain impulses because we have been conditioned, socially speaking, to be very careful about certain things. It takes skill to do something the right way and make it look easy. You will certainly learn alot and gain understand from your experiences. Just know that, from a peewee football player to Joe Montana - the ones who want it are the only ones who will ever get it. =)
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